Posted: 11/3/2015 1:09:29 PM EDT
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Ok, so as most of you know, I am but a memory in NYS....but of course the scumbags continue to try and fuck with you after you leave...
So 2 things.... NYS license plates....both my and my wife's cars are fully registered, insured and plated in Texas....apparently we ate supposed to surrender our plates to NYS...I have both sets sitting in the garage... Also, just got a letter from DMV stating that my insurance company notified them that the insurance was canceled...and that I need to provide them with proof of insurance, or surrender my registration. Penalties for not doing so...suspend my registration...suspend my NYS drivers license, or the kicker..."be prevented from renewing an out of state drivers license". My first reaction is fuck them on all coints, no longer live there, they can suck it. BUT, if they can somehow prevent me from renewing my Texas license down the road over this BS, I guess I can grudgingly satisfy them. I tried calling, to tell them directly to go fuck themselces, but of course getting a live person on the phone is impossible... So what says the hometown hive? Is it BS, or do I need to comply? Oh...and living down here is still...AWESOME!! Bought some 30 round 3rd Gen P-Mags wit windows at the last show for like $10 NIP...didn't need any (found a box in the truck loaded with standard cap mags....how'd that get there?)...just did it because I could...they fit real purty in my SCAR 16... Sorry, don't hate me....  
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Pick your battles. How much was left on your NYS registration? You might be getting some money back. That...nothing, expired on my way down here...have to check my wifes though.... I guess my question was can they really do anything? I mean, if I don't live there... I hate they even continue to haunt me after getting out.... 
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When I moved from MD back to NY in 1998, I had accumulated just enough speeding tickets to have my license suspended. But it was too late, I had already traded in a valid MD license for a clean NY license (I don't know if there is an agreement between these states now, but there wasn't then).
MD told me I couldn't drive in MD, or in NY, or anywhere. I told them that I had a valid NYS driver's license and that they could eat a bag of dicks. Things may be different now though. You should contact an attorney and ask. Depending on how much discretionary income you have, it may be worth it to mail the NYS DMV a bag of gummy dicks and tell them how much you hope they enjoy munching on them. |
| Send them back. Not worth the hassle NY will give you over "their plates". Make sure to send them signature required so they can't say they didn't get them. I sent ours back the day I registered here in GA. It actually felt good to send them back What the heck you want with NY plates anyways? |
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Send them back. Not worth the hassle NY will give you over "their plates". Make sure to send them signature required so they can't say they didn't get them. I sent ours back the day I registered here in GA. It actually felt good to send them back What the heck you want with NY plates anyways? I just don't really want to take the time or spend the money to return them to the shitbags... But I suppose I will...I will call and ask them why they need proof of insurance on a car which is no longer plated or registered there...that pisses me off more than the plates. Although we pay for the damn plates, why do they get to get them back? A state run by a bunch of insufferable pricks.... |
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I just don't really want to take the time or spend the money to return them to the shitbags... But I suppose I will...I will call and ask them why they need proof of insurance on a car which is no longer plated or registered there...that pisses me off more than the plates. Although we pay for the damn plates, why do they get to get them back? A state run by a bunch of insufferable pricks.... Quoted:
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Send them back. Not worth the hassle NY will give you over "their plates". Make sure to send them signature required so they can't say they didn't get them. I sent ours back the day I registered here in GA. It actually felt good to send them back What the heck you want with NY plates anyways? I just don't really want to take the time or spend the money to return them to the shitbags... But I suppose I will...I will call and ask them why they need proof of insurance on a car which is no longer plated or registered there...that pisses me off more than the plates. Although we pay for the damn plates, why do they get to get them back? A state run by a bunch of insufferable pricks.... Send them a BAG OF DICKS! SKD BAG OF DICKS! |
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I just don't really want to take the time or spend the money to return them to the shitbags... But I suppose I will...I will call and ask them why they need proof of insurance on a car which is no longer plated or registered there...that pisses me off more than the plates. Although we pay for the damn plates, why do they get to get them back? A state run by a bunch of insufferable pricks.... Quoted:
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Send them back. Not worth the hassle NY will give you over "their plates". Make sure to send them signature required so they can't say they didn't get them. I sent ours back the day I registered here in GA. It actually felt good to send them back What the heck you want with NY plates anyways? I just don't really want to take the time or spend the money to return them to the shitbags... But I suppose I will...I will call and ask them why they need proof of insurance on a car which is no longer plated or registered there...that pisses me off more than the plates. Although we pay for the damn plates, why do they get to get them back? A state run by a bunch of insufferable pricks.... When you send in the plates, that's all the proof they need that you aren't driving that vehicle in NY. No need to send them anything else. |
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I would just call them and tell them that you have new insurance and new registration from another state.
I would call which ever county DMV that you used to live in... Worst case once you actually talk to some one you fax them a copy of your new insurance and TX reg, that way you have nothing to worry about. Oh and the key word for your old NY plates is that you "destroyed" them when you got your new TX tags. -It seems they have become a little stricter in recent years when it comes to active tags and insurance. |
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Man, I've lived in a lot of states, and I've never once had to surrender license plates to a DMV. I have a small stack of them in the garage.
Just one more reason to despise this state. 98kGuy, I'd like to advise you to tell them to piss off, but you have to keep your eyes on the prize--total emancipation from this slave state. Just comply one more time to the fuckers and then you can wash your hands of this place forever. You don't really want a memento anyway, right? |
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When I moved from MD back to NY in 1998, I had accumulated just enough speeding tickets to have my license suspended. But it was too late, I had already traded in a valid MD license for a clean NY license (I don't know if there is an agreement between these states now, but there wasn't then). MD told me I couldn't drive in MD, or in NY, or anywhere. I told them that I had a valid NYS driver's license and that they could eat a bag of dicks. Things may be different now though. You should contact an attorney and ask. Depending on how much discretionary income you have, it may be worth it to mail the NYS DMV a bag of gummy dicks and tell them how much you hope they enjoy munching on them. Your license to drive was suspended in MD. If caught, you would have been charged. Does not matter if you had a valid license from another State, they can still suspend your driving privledge in MD. NY can do the same, however the MD suspension was probably not valid in NY. |
They will put your info on the national database that prevents you from renewing or replacing a driver's license elsewhere. They do the same thing to people who owe fines or more than 10,000 in taxes. I consider all that BS NYS after leaving as an "Exit Tax." They want to know when you left and how much money you made until leaving NY to tax it. Yea, even 2 weeks into the new year counts I'm sure 
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Well, I'll just send the damned things back....fuckin NYS, the assholes who run the show can all choke on a dick....
If it wasn't for my sister and her family, and my sons godmother, I'd never set foot back into the state.... Well, that's not true, God help me, I do enjoy visiting NYC, sadist that I am....
Although can't find a good wing anywhere down here so far.....
Maybe I'll open a Duff's and show Texans what they are missing....profit! |
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Your license to drive was suspended in MD. If caught, you would have been charged. Does not matter if you had a valid license from another State, they can still suspend your driving privledge in MD. NY can do the same, however the MD suspension was probably not valid in NY. Quoted:
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When I moved from MD back to NY in 1998, I had accumulated just enough speeding tickets to have my license suspended. But it was too late, I had already traded in a valid MD license for a clean NY license (I don't know if there is an agreement between these states now, but there wasn't then). MD told me I couldn't drive in MD, or in NY, or anywhere. I told them that I had a valid NYS driver's license and that they could eat a bag of dicks. Things may be different now though. You should contact an attorney and ask. Depending on how much discretionary income you have, it may be worth it to mail the NYS DMV a bag of gummy dicks and tell them how much you hope they enjoy munching on them. Your license to drive was suspended in MD. If caught, you would have been charged. Does not matter if you had a valid license from another State, they can still suspend your driving privledge in MD. NY can do the same, however the MD suspension was probably not valid in NY. I don't think that's true, because this was post Driver License Agreement, which requires all member states (both MD and NY) to honor the valid licences of other states. If the suspension had occurred before I got the NYS license, then I would not have been able to get a NYS license. However, the "suspension" occurred after I had a NYS license, and it happened because MD did not know that I had traded in my license (it was very soon after). MD cannot suspend a NYS license, and they are forced by the DLA to honor out of state licenses. Similarly, NYS cannot suspend a Texas license. The Interstate Driver’s License Compact is a contract between states that enforces a DUI arrest out of state by agreeing to honor the DUI license suspension requirements in the state in which the DUI took place. This means that if you are arrested for and convicted of a DUI in another state, that state could request a license suspension effective in your home state. The effect of the Interstate Compact on your driver’s license after a DUI conviction will depend on your state’s DUI policies and laws, so consult an experienced DUI attorney in your state to determine whether or not your state participates in the Interstate Driver's License Compact.z
If one state could suspend another state's license, they would not have needed a the DLA and they would not need to request that your home state suspend your license if you get a DUI in their state. |
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I don't think that's true, because this was post Driver License Agreement, which requires all member states (both MD and NY) to honor the valid licences of other states. If the suspension had occurred before I got the NYS license, then I would not have been able to get a NYS license. However, the "suspension" occurred after I had a NYS license, and it happened because MD did not know that I had traded in my license (it was very soon after). MD cannot suspend a NYS license, and they are forced by the DLA to honor out of state licenses. Similarly, NYS cannot suspend a Texas license. If one state could suspend another state's license, they would not have needed a the DLA and they would not need to request that your home state suspend your license if you get a DUI in their state. Quoted:
I don't think that's true, because this was post Driver License Agreement, which requires all member states (both MD and NY) to honor the valid licences of other states. If the suspension had occurred before I got the NYS license, then I would not have been able to get a NYS license. However, the "suspension" occurred after I had a NYS license, and it happened because MD did not know that I had traded in my license (it was very soon after). MD cannot suspend a NYS license, and they are forced by the DLA to honor out of state licenses. Similarly, NYS cannot suspend a Texas license. The Interstate Driver’s License Compact is a contract between states that enforces a DUI arrest out of state by agreeing to honor the DUI license suspension requirements in the state in which the DUI took place. This means that if you are arrested for and convicted of a DUI in another state, that state could request a license suspension effective in your home state. The effect of the Interstate Compact on your driver’s license after a DUI conviction will depend on your state’s DUI policies and laws, so consult an experienced DUI attorney in your state to determine whether or not your state participates in the Interstate Driver's License Compact.z
If one state could suspend another state's license, they would not have needed a the DLA and they would not need to request that your home state suspend your license if you get a DUI in their state. If you are suspended in NYS and come back into the state behind the wheel of a car it doesn't matter that you have a valid license elsewhere Your privilege to drive in NY is suspended/ revoked. |
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Wouldn't that make NY in violation of the DLA?
Because according to the DLA, which was signed in 1994/95, a member state has to notify the home state of actions to be taken, which the home state must then act upon. Member states cannot take action on their own against a driver's out of state license. The DLA requires all states to honor licenses issued by other member states, report traffic convictions to the licensing state, prohibit a member state from confiscating an out-of-state driver's license or jailing an out-of-state driver for a minor violation; and maintain a complete driver's history, including withdrawals and traffic convictions including those committed in non-DLA states.
When a DLA member state receives a report concerning its drivers from a non-DLA member state, the member state will be required to treat the report the same as if it came from a member state. As with the previous compacts, the DLA requires a state to post all out-of-state traffic convictions to the driver's record, and a state must apply its own laws to all out-of-state convictions. As with the previous compacts, the DLA allows other jurisdictions to access motor vehicle records, in accordance with the Drivers' Privacy Protection Act (DPPA), and to transfer the driver's history if the driver transfers his license. |
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M. Except as provided in paragraph D of Article IX, nothing in the Agreement shall be
construed to prohibit a jurisdiction from maintaining its own driver records on any person and taking withdrawal actions permitted by the jurisdiction’s law on any conduct occurring within that jurisdiction. So basically, according to the DLA, NY can suspend your NY driver privileges but that cannot affect any other state. |
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Found it! So basically, according to the DLA, NY can suspend your NY driver privileges but that cannot affect any other state. Quoted:
Found it! M. Except as provided in paragraph D of Article IX, nothing in the Agreement shall be
construed to prohibit a jurisdiction from maintaining its own driver records on any person and taking withdrawal actions permitted by the jurisdiction’s law on any conduct occurring within that jurisdiction. So basically, according to the DLA, NY can suspend your NY driver privileges but that cannot affect any other state. Which is exactly what tc and Aimless just said. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Go to the ghetto, you'll see at least 50% out of state plates. Quoted:
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Weird thing is, out of state plates are proliferating here. Go to the ghetto, you'll see at least 50% out of state plates. Yep, PA is huge in the Bronx. Never could figure out exactly what the scam was, but we knew there was some sort of scam. |
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Well, I'll just send the damned things back....fuckin NYS, the assholes who run the show can all choke on a dick.... If it wasn't for my sister and her family, and my sons godmother, I'd never set foot back into the state.... Well, that's not true, God help me, I do enjoy visiting NYC, sadist that I am....
Although can't find a good wing anywhere down here so far.....
Maybe I'll open a Duff's and show Texans what they are missing....profit! Slap a few FUAC stickers on them before sealing the envelope. 
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Yep, PA is huge in the Bronx. Never could figure out exactly what the scam was, but we knew there was some sort of scam. Quoted:
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Weird thing is, out of state plates are proliferating here. Go to the ghetto, you'll see at least 50% out of state plates. Yep, PA is huge in the Bronx. Never could figure out exactly what the scam was, but we knew there was some sort of scam. Insurance is cheaper |
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Weird thing is, out of state plates are proliferating here. Go to the ghetto, you'll see at least 50% out of state plates. Yep, PA is huge in the Bronx. Never could figure out exactly what the scam was, but we knew there was some sort of scam. Insurance is cheaper Not sure if it's still the case but it used to be very easy to register your car there with bogus insurance paperwork. |
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Not sure if it's still the case but it used to be very easy to register your car there with bogus insurance paperwork. Quoted:
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Weird thing is, out of state plates are proliferating here. Go to the ghetto, you'll see at least 50% out of state plates. Yep, PA is huge in the Bronx. Never could figure out exactly what the scam was, but we knew there was some sort of scam. Insurance is cheaper Not sure if it's still the case but it used to be very easy to register your car there with bogus insurance paperwork. Not sure, but even if it's "legit" it's like half price l. Same with NJ. A few guys I work with have Jersey plates and a dl but live in the bx. Shit, Idk why I don't do it myself.
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Which is exactly what tc and Aimless just said. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Quoted:
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Found it! M. Except as provided in paragraph D of Article IX, nothing in the Agreement shall be
construed to prohibit a jurisdiction from maintaining its own driver records on any person and taking withdrawal actions permitted by the jurisdiction’s law on any conduct occurring within that jurisdiction. So basically, according to the DLA, NY can suspend your NY driver privileges but that cannot affect any other state. Which is exactly what tc and Aimless just said. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile People say all kinds of things on the interwebs. I like evidence. |
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Weird thing is, out of state plates are proliferating here. Go to the ghetto, you'll see at least 50% out of state plates. Everything in the parking lots of the projects was registered in VA, GA and SC when I was working in PSA7 in 1998... the answer was always "its my aunts car, she lives in _____, I'm just using it for a couple days..." And the insurace for bare liability in GA was like $120 a year for an infinity G35.... so most actually had valid insurance, amazingly... |
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I still have plates all over the house that are no longer on any vehicle. NJ, FL, NY... Your insurance company knows you have insurance. TX knows you have insurance. NY is just being a whiny fucknut. I doubt TX really cares if you send anything back, and I wouldn't send NY any info about where you live now, unless they already know. |
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I still have plates all over the house that are no longer on any vehicle. NJ, FL, NY... Your insurance company knows you have insurance. TX knows you have insurance. NY is just being a whiny fucknut. I doubt TX really cares if you send anything back, and I wouldn't send NY any info about where you live now, unless they already know. Yeah, like I said, I'll just send the damned things back, and politely tell them to stick them up their asses. Not worth the potential hassle. I will not send them any info on my current address. Texas DPS did take my NYS drivers license when I got my new Texas license... It pisses me off, though, since both my cars are 100% legal, insured, plated, and registered in Texas, so NY should be able to say or do squat...but they do...scumbags.... |
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Shoot a bunch of holes in them and send them back. Put a note in saying that It's standard practice for Texans to shoot at any car with NY plates. I like that idea... Meanwhile, you can be an illegal scumbag, driving a stolen car, with no insurance, run over and kill upstanding citizens, and most likely at worst be given a small fine, and released, or at best full pardon, and instant citizenship... Meanwhile, make your escape from NY as a hard working, upstanding citizen, going to a free state...and they will harass you and threaten over fricking license plates.... |