Posted: 9/7/2015 7:42:18 AM EDT
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I thought it was ruled that we could load to 10 period. That a judge struck down loading 7/10.
I just found this quote on the "find out what's new for the NYSA" section of the site. Suspending the requirement that only magazines that can contain 7 rounds or less can be purchased. Going forward, magazines can be purchased that can contain up to 10 rounds. Magazines may only contain up to 7 rounds regardless of their capacity, unless you are at an incorporated firing range or competition, in which case you may load your magazine to its full capacity. I was originally checking to see if we were allowed to buy threaded bbl HK45 etc and never found that. |
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Quoted: I thought it was ruled that we could load to 10 period. That a judge struck down loading 7/10. I just found this quote on the "find out what's new for the NYSA" section of the site. Suspending the requirement that only magazines that can contain 7 rounds or less can be purchased. Going forward, magazines can be purchased that can contain up to 10 rounds. Magazines may only contain up to 7 rounds regardless of their capacity, unless you are at an incorporated firing range or competition, in which case you may load your magazine to its full capacity. |
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Quoted: How can you allow it at the range and not in the home? So I can practice or be in a match but you can't protect your family with 10rds. Wtf backwards shit is that? |
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I also believed that if you were found in legal possession of the handgun, LEO cannot count your rounds without a warrant. correct this was a big case when the SAFE act was introduced. A guy was pulled over for a trf infraction and had a CCW, the leo counted the rounds and he had 12 i believe....the courts found they have to have reasonable suspicion to count the rounds which the leo did not...ill see if i can find the decision. also i believe there is a ruling that within the districts of a circuit if there is not a differing circuit then the ruling applies to all the districts...time to start lookin decisions up lol. |
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“The New York State Police have followed the same sensible path taken by the New York Sheriffs’ Association and many local law-enforcement agencies in not enforcing a capricious, ill-conceived and unconstitutional portion of the NY SAFE Act,” stated NYSRPA President Thomas King in a press release. http://www.guns.com/2014/03/27/ny-state-police-update-ny-safe-guide-will-enforce-7-round-mag-limit/ A municipal court judge in New York ruled Wednesday that Paul Wojdan’s rights were violated when police counted the number of rounds in his handgun and then charged him with violations under the SAFE Act. At a traffic stop Wojdan was found to have 10 rounds in the magazine of his legally owned pistol, in violation of the SAFE Act’s arbitrary seven-round limit. “In observing the magazine, I did notice there were at least 10 rounds in the magazine,” Barrancotta testified, noting the casings visible through the witness holes. He then emptied the magazine. “I did count rounds just to confirm our reasonable suspicion that there were more than 10,” Piedmont said. This discovery led to Wojdan being charged with unlawful possession of an ammunition-feeding device, which carries a fine of up to $200 and a possible imprisonment of up to six months in jail. Wojdan’s lawyer argued that once the firearm was unloaded, in other words the magazine dropped free of the frame and the chamber emptied, so that the gun could be inspected safely, there was no reason for officers to count the rounds and at that point, it was an unreasonable search. He was backed up by the September 2013 New York State Police guide to SAFE Act enforcement which states: “Unless there is probable cause to believe the law is being violated, there is no justification for checking a magazine to determine whether or not it contains more than 7 rounds.” second article |
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Last word was the magazine(s) were not to be removed or rounds counted unless involved in a crime.
Last I knew it wasn't a crime to defend yourself, family or stop the commission of a violent felony crime. Cop's aren't supposed to be "checking" unless again, you and/or your firearm are under suspicion of a crime. I suspect there are a good many that if forced into deadly force really won't give a damn if the magazine has too many rounds to satisfy .gov
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Last word was the magazine(s) were not to be removed or rounds counted unless involved in a crime. Last I knew it wasn't a crime to defend yourself, family or stop the commission of a violent felony crime. Cop's aren't supposed to be "checking" unless again, you and/or your firearm are under suspicion of a crime. I suspect there are a good many that if forced into deadly force really won't give a damn if the magazine has too many rounds to satisfy .gov ![]() Empty it. ...ah yeah I only shot 7 |