Posted: 6/13/2014 6:01:29 AM EDT
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Morning.
Been lurking around this forum for a few months, and had a question. Is it possible for a NYS ffl to recieve a complete lower with pre ban features? I'm looking at a lower with a pistol grip and collapsible stock, and getting an upper from somewhere else. It will be made compliant, either by a perma-fixed mag or frs-15 after I receive it. I apologize if this has been answered here (or elsewhere before). But a few hours of google-fu has come up empty. I appreciate any help. |
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The FFL can receive it but can't transfer it to you. It'll need to be made compliant before they can transfer it to you. This. Or he can transfer it to you without a stock and you can buy a compliant stock for it to remain legal. It would make more sense to just buy a stripped lower. FUAC. |
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True. What if you have a Barrett .50 BMG single shot upper? Nothing wrong with having a lower with a pistol grip and collapsible stock. Quoted:
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Still waiting to see someone successfully fire a round with only a complete lower.... Its not an other because its got all the guts Its not a handgun; the receiver didn't leave the factory in that configuration. The only option left is rifle, and with all the semiauto guts already in it, its going to be presumed to BE semiauto, and with that in mind it'll already have a pistol grip and a collapsible stock. You guys can feel free to argue the distinctions with the powers that be that just because it doesn't have an upper that it wont be considered semi-auto. |
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Its not an other because its got all the guts Its not a handgun; the receiver didn't leave the factory in that configuration. The only option left is rifle, and with all the semiauto guts already in it, its going to be presumed to BE semiauto, and with that in mind it'll already have a pistol grip and a collapsible stock. You guys can feel free to argue the distinctions with the powers that be that just because it doesn't have an upper that it wont be considered semi-auto. Quoted:
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Still waiting to see someone successfully fire a round with only a complete lower.... Its not an other because its got all the guts Its not a handgun; the receiver didn't leave the factory in that configuration. The only option left is rifle, and with all the semiauto guts already in it, its going to be presumed to BE semiauto, and with that in mind it'll already have a pistol grip and a collapsible stock. You guys can feel free to argue the distinctions with the powers that be that just because it doesn't have an upper that it wont be considered semi-auto. All the semi auto guts? Presumed to be? A lower does not have any parts that make it a semi auto gun. And where in the law does it say that a gun that COULD be semi auto is automatically "presumed to BE semiauto?" tc556guy - I appreciate that you are an FFL and you may not want to risk your FFL license, and that is fine...but don't give out false info based on YOUR practices that are not based on law. A lower receiver CAN have any evil features you want, as you can easily put an upper on it with no gas tube. If you were correct, then if I owned a single shot or straight pull AR, and it had a pistol grip, then it would also be considered illegal, since you are considering the lower to be semi auto no matter what. |
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A lower does not have any parts that make it a semi auto gun. . I'm talking about semiauto vs FA or burst parts installed in the lower when I bring up that issue. You're right, I'm not going to endanger the FFL. Stripped lowers are legal to transfer, and those by themselves were a matter of some debate before we got the word that they were legal to transfer If you want to be a test case, knock yourself out. |