Posted: 5/1/2014 5:11:34 AM EDT
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legal or no? has a muzzle brake, i thought brakes were good to go now?
or is this an assaulting children slaying devil gun that i must register for safety? |
| Right now muzzle brakes are legal because of the federal court ruling. There is always the question of what to do with the threads u der the muzzl. NY has never charged anyone for a threaded muzzle if the muzzle device was pinned and welded as per ATF guidelines, so let that be your guide. |
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Another option would be to have the mag release modified so the mag is non-detachable. Then you can have all the evil features and just top-load with single rounds or stripper clips. This. Take out your trigger group, punch out the mag release pin, cut an old hex key to size, slide it into the mag catch spring, re-assemble your trigger group. A bit of a pain in the ass. Now you no longer have a rifle that accepts a detachable mag. I've done it so that you cannot even put a mag in without removing the trigger group. Mag will not/cannot seat. You can cut your mag release down if you wish, but it's not necessary. And don't do it if it's a USGI part. Order a SAI mag release and cut that one. Either that or buy an old Polytech or Norinco solid (ornamental) flash hider. These are cosmetic flash hiders with no cut out. They dont hide flash or break/comp anything. Just a piece of pipe. Pull off your FH. Install the solid one normally Drill through the bayo flat and castle nut and "dimple" the barrel. Remove it. Tap the FH and CastleNut for 6-32NC or some other small, dense thread screw. Reem the threads a bit in the castle nut until is slides over the area where the barrel threads used to be. take a Dremel and grind your fucking castle nut thread off the barrel. Please don't do this to a serviceable USGI barrel. Get a commercial barrel. Blue it up Peen your barrel splines Wack on the FH/Castle nut until you see the barrel dimple, or you can make your dimple now. Screw in the set screw all they way through the castle nut too. You may have to wiggle shit a bit to get the FH/Castle nut threads correctly distanced for the set screw. Flood with some loctite. Done. It holds just fine. Been shooting a rifle like this for months now. |
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Disable the detachable mag and might just as well have a garand.
Lrb arms sells a dummy flash hider that could be attached and then weld over the lock nut that retains the castle nut and you are all set. Another option is to remove hider and threads and use a gas cylinder lock with a front sight placed there. Keep in mind if you weld on the dummy fh it prevents removal of the gas system should something break |
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Disable the detachable mag and might just as well have a garand. Or an FN49 or a Ljungman, or a M1941 Johnson Rifle, or a MAS 49. At least it is a simple FU to the SAFE act and sdoesn't turn the rifle into a horrible monstrosity. As if being like a Garand is a bad thing... |
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MB's are legal, threaded barrels are not.  technically the muzzle device on an M1A is not threaded on, it fits into dovetails cut into the barrel, the nut just secures everything in place. Pinning & welding the nut should be ok or if you want to be really extra sure your legal like most here recommend you can grind off the barrel threads, drill & tap the brake (right through the nut, dimpling the barrel) & use screws to secure everything. Lots of work but compliant at least until they correct the spelling of BRAKE  .
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technically the muzzle device on an M1A is not threaded on, it fits into dovetails cut into the barrel, the nut just secures everything in place. Pinning & welding the nut should be ok or if you want to be really extra sure your legal like most here recommend you can grind off the barrel threads, drill & tap the brake (right through the nut, dimpling the barrel) & use screws to secure everything. Lots of work but compliant at least until they correct the spelling of BRAKE .Quoted:
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MB's are legal, threaded barrels are not. technically the muzzle device on an M1A is not threaded on, it fits into dovetails cut into the barrel, the nut just secures everything in place. Pinning & welding the nut should be ok or if you want to be really extra sure your legal like most here recommend you can grind off the barrel threads, drill & tap the brake (right through the nut, dimpling the barrel) & use screws to secure everything. Lots of work but compliant at least until they correct the spelling of BRAKE .Actually Lou from LRB spoke to NYSP about this. They gave the M14 barrel a pass during AWB 1, but now... No more threaded barrel. The "it secures a castle nut, not a muzzle device" argument no longer holds water. |
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Actually Lou from LRB spoke to NYSP about this. They gave the M14 barrel a pass during AWB 1, but now... No more threaded barrel. The "it secures a castle nut, not a muzzle device" argument no longer holds water. Not to doubt you but I'll believe this when I see it in writing. The NYSP have absolutely zero authority to define statutory law. The definition of a threaded barrel needs to be in the definitions section of the law, but it isn't. The ATF's definition has been in use IN NYS since 1994, and AFAIK no one, and I mean exactly zero number of people, were charged under the old NYS AWB with having a threaded barrel under their NYS compliant muzzle brake's. |
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Or an FN49 or a Ljungman, or a M1941 Johnson Rifle, or a MAS 49. At least it is a simple FU to the SAFE act and sdoesn't turn the rifle into a horrible monstrosity. As if being like a Garand is a bad thing... Quoted:
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Disable the detachable mag and might just as well have a garand. Or an FN49 or a Ljungman, or a M1941 Johnson Rifle, or a MAS 49. At least it is a simple FU to the SAFE act and sdoesn't turn the rifle into a horrible monstrosity. As if being like a Garand is a bad thing... Good enough for Sicily, Monte Cassino, Omaha Beach, Guadalcanal, Bastogne, Iwo Jima, Okinawa... Outta work for the nazis in Albany. 
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Not to doubt you but I'll believe this when I see it in writing. The NYSP have absolutely zero authority to define statutory law. The definition of a threaded barrel needs to be in the definitions section of the law, but it isn't. The ATF's definition has been in use IN NYS since 1994, and AFAIK no one, and I mean exactly zero number of people, were charged under the old NYS AWB with having a threaded barrel under their NYS compliant muzzle brake's. Quoted:
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Actually Lou from LRB spoke to NYSP about this. They gave the M14 barrel a pass during AWB 1, but now... No more threaded barrel. The "it secures a castle nut, not a muzzle device" argument no longer holds water. Not to doubt you but I'll believe this when I see it in writing. The NYSP have absolutely zero authority to define statutory law. The definition of a threaded barrel needs to be in the definitions section of the law, but it isn't. The ATF's definition has been in use IN NYS since 1994, and AFAIK no one, and I mean exactly zero number of people, were charged under the old NYS AWB with having a threaded barrel under their NYS compliant muzzle brake's. I also spoke with Lou & from Lou's point as a Firearms Mfg. in "anti gun Indian Country" Nassau County, who wants no issues with the NYSP I can understand him. But the NYSP are going to have a very hard time getting away with this in any court because of this . ATF approved methods of barrel extension attachment methods and this Letter from ATF on welds & attachment methods From the above letter fom BATF Chief of their Firearms Technology Branch (in 1998), Edward M. Owen, Jr.. "A firearm having a muzzle brake, cap, or barrel extension permanently attached by those same methods to cover the threads on a barrel, would not be considered to have a threaded muzzle." Since there has been 40+ years of attaching Brakes/Hiders to barrels in a legal ATF approved manner, I'm sure there is plenty of case law to (including the Nassau DA vs TNT fiasco where the threaded short barrel crap was laughed out of court) support this. |