Posted: 10/19/2013 6:23:24 PM EDT
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Has anyone seen or heard of this, will it fly in NY?
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Has anyone seen or heard of this, will it fly in NY? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idkP5n8BhdY The problem with this and EVERY other compliant device that is on the market is nobody knows and can or is willing to tell us what will pass the compliance test. I guess we will see once January comes around when people start getting arrested. They made this law very confusing for a reason, they have already succeeded in causing a panic and I am sure there are a lot of law abiding citizens that are spending more money than they would have normally to stock up on ammo. |
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Picked up one of them myself. Actually was impressed. Well thought out. You do get a small contact scratch which sort of sucks unless you put a piece of rubber on the end, perhaps dip it in plastic of some kind.
As annoying add-ons go, it's not bad at all. And it serves it's intended purpose nicely. |
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Picked up one of them myself. Actually was impressed. Well thought out. You do get a small contact scratch which sort of sucks unless you put a piece of rubber on the end, perhaps dip it in plastic of some kind. As annoying add-ons go, it's not bad at all. And it serves it's intended purpose nicely. I refuse to accept living with "some" of my rights. That's why we're here in the first place. |
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Looks like you need to disable the bolt hold open.  Or just release the bolt before cracking the upper open. There's a reason they have a BAD lever on their example. Certainly not an optimal process, but it seems cleaner than some other solutions to the problem. Though I don't know if this will actually pass NY muster. |
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Thanks for the pronouncement, but no one knows for sure. Unless of course you are really andy behind that keyboard Quoted:
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glorified bullet button not legal. Thanks for the pronouncement, but no one knows for sure. Unless of course you are really andy behind that keyboard Andy doesn't know either....he is probably the last one who will know. The only thing he knows is how to sign his name on documents. |
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I believe bullet buttons were specifically written into the law in California? There is no provision that I'm aware of that specifically states a bullet button fixes the issue.
and as far as cuomo knowing whats in the bill I doubt it. They probably put it infront of him and they told him it was anti gun and he replied with "anti gun anti gun cuomo good boy cuomo sign!" |
| Well...I know of at least one dealer in NY that is selling full featured AR15's equipped with the MR2 kit. They claim to have gotten permission/clearance from NYSP. They have a very nice assortment of rifles in stock. Maybe they know something we don't? http://precisionarmory.com/ |
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Well...I know of at least one dealer in NY that is selling full featured AR15's equipped with the MR2 kit. They claim to have gotten permission/clearance from NYSP. They have a very nice assortment of rifles in stock. Maybe they know something we don't? http://precisionarmory.com/ NYSP gave verbal but not written say that this was legal. Numerous lawyers including one from the Tresmond team has given this an okay. |
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Well...I know of at least one dealer in NY that is selling full featured AR15's equipped with the MR2 kit. They claim to have gotten permission/clearance from NYSP. They have a very nice assortment of rifles in stock. Maybe they know something we don't? http://precisionarmory.com/ This is large. Test case anyone ? |
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The only thing that would wear is the front pivot pin. Quoted:
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I wonder how loose the fit between the upper and lower could get from the increased wear of having to split the upper and the lower every time you reload. The only thing that would wear is the front pivot pin. The question is, would the additional wear be significant? I would probably put grease on the front pivot pin. |
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Quoted: I believe bullet buttons were specifically written into the law in California? There is no provision that I'm aware of that specifically states a bullet button fixes the issue. and as far as cuomo knowing whats in the bill I doubt it. They probably put it infront of him and they told him it was anti gun and he replied with "anti gun anti gun cuomo good boy cuomo sign!" |
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The question is, would the additional wear be significant? I would probably put grease on the front pivot pin. Quoted:
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I wonder how loose the fit between the upper and lower could get from the increased wear of having to split the upper and the lower every time you reload. The only thing that would wear is the front pivot pin. The question is, would the additional wear be significant? I would probably put grease on the front pivot pin. Who cares? Lowers cost less than a bolt carrier. |
| Of course more use will make it wear more. Just use your head be careful with it and lube it to reduce wear. Other than that there isn't much you can do about it if this is the course you decide to take. It will take a lot of opening and closing to wear a quality receiver out. |
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As I mentioned before I pickup a couple of these through Amazon and I have to admit, I sort of like them. I agree that it sucks we need them, but until that gets resolved it's a nice solution. It also gives me a chuckle when I think of some call of duty player trying to figure out how to drop the mag :-) I'm a bench shooter and re-loader so it's only a minor nuisance to me.
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Picked up one of them myself. Actually was impressed. Well thought out. You do get a small contact scratch which sort of sucks unless you put a piece of rubber on the end, perhaps dip it in plastic of some kind. As annoying add-ons go, it's not bad at all. And it serves it's intended purpose nicely. Contact scratch on what exactly? If this is going to impede movement or cut up my fingers I don't need it. Exposed sharps are a sign of poor build quality. |
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Contact scratch on what exactly? If this is going to impede movement or cut up my fingers I don't need it. Exposed sharps are a sign of poor build quality. Quoted:
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Picked up one of them myself. Actually was impressed. Well thought out. You do get a small contact scratch which sort of sucks unless you put a piece of rubber on the end, perhaps dip it in plastic of some kind. As annoying add-ons go, it's not bad at all. And it serves it's intended purpose nicely. Contact scratch on what exactly? If this is going to impede movement or cut up my fingers I don't need it. Exposed sharps are a sign of poor build quality. I don't have one and have only viewed pix online, but my guess is the scratch he mentions is from the small tab that contacts the upper and moves into the vacated space above the lower when the upper is pivoted out of the way allowing for a reload............but that's just a WAG..... 
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In theory, Since it wouldn't be a detachable magazine.
The reality is that if you took a M4 configured unit with a fake suppressor to a range they would arrest you, take the gun, convert it back, prosecute you , and the jury would convict you just for being scary. You might even luck out and since they had it apart they could drop in worse things and let the feds have you. |
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In theory, Since it wouldn't be a detachable magazine. The reality is that if you took a M4 configured unit with a fake suppressor to a range they would arrest you, take the gun, convert it back, prosecute you , and the jury would convict you just for being scary. You might even luck out and since they had it apart they could drop in worse things and let the feds have you. After the story I read coming out of New Mexico this could very well come true! http://www.kob.com/article/stories/s3209305.shtml#.UnlNg_msgk0 |