[ARCHIVED THREAD] - things to come (Page 1 of 2)
Posted: 12/18/2012 5:24:15 PM EDT
| with all that is going down what is the outlook for a new AWB in NY? |
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i could see a whole new assault weapons ban happening changing the wording , new ban would super-cede our current ban
illegal to own any mag holding over 30 rounds pre ban or not ....harder to purchase an ar lower or ar15 in general ? shoot maybe try and make us turn in our ar`s ? now a days nothing would surprise me |
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Outright ownership ban of AR15 type of rifles, magazines over 9 rounds. No grandfather clause and no sunset clause I'll be leaving the state if that happens I'm not far from the PA border, and work about 10 minutes from that border. It's pretty enticing. It's just that there's no nice places to live right near the border in PA, that I've seen. |
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Outright ownership ban of AR15 type of rifles, magazines over 9 rounds. No grandfather clause and no sunset clause I'll be leaving the state if that happens I'm not far from the PA border, and work about 10 minutes from that border. It's pretty enticing. It's just that there's no nice places to live right near the border in PA, that I've seen. Are you nuts ???? Darn if you have the chance to jump ship and run to a free state do it. I have two and half more years here until my last son is done High School and I'm out of this liberal asshat state. My wife and I have been looking all over Pa in the past six months for place to live. |
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Outright ownership ban of AR15 type of rifles, magazines over 9 rounds. No grandfather clause and no sunset clause I'll be leaving the state if that happens I'm not far from the PA border, and work about 10 minutes from that border. It's pretty enticing. It's just that there's no nice places to live right near the border in PA, that I've seen. Are you nuts ???? Darn if you have the chance to jump ship and run to a free state do it. I have two and half more years here until my last son is done High School and I'm out of this liberal asshat state. My wife and I have been looking all over Pa in the past six months for place to live. I just came back from a free state in March. 
Like I said, the housing selection isn't very good right over the border. I'm sure I could go farther into PA and find something I like, but it looks like it would be too far from work and family for my liking. I hate commuting. I drove 40 minutes each way at my last job down south. It sucked. |
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Outright ownership ban of AR15 type of rifles, magazines over 9 rounds. No grandfather clause and no sunset clause I'll be leaving the state if that happens Yep. pull up stakes and move 15 miles south for me. Where would that put you? Sayre? I bought a quad from a dealer in Sayre about 5-6 years ago (Northeast ATV). The area looked nice and suburban-ish. I could easily make that move. The closest part of PA from me is Great Bend, and the area looks like poop. |
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Outright ownership ban of AR15 type of rifles, magazines over 9 rounds. No grandfather clause and no sunset clause I'll be leaving the state if that happens Yep. pull up stakes and move 15 miles south for me. Where would that put you? Sayre? I bought a quad from a dealer in Sayre about 5-6 years ago (Northeast ATV). The area looked nice and suburban-ish. I could easily make that move. The closest part of PA from me is Great Bend, and the area looks like poop. Are they doing fracking up there in Great Bend ? |
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Outright ownership ban of AR15 type of rifles, magazines over 9 rounds. No grandfather clause and no sunset clause I'll be leaving the state if that happens Yep. pull up stakes and move 15 miles south for me. Where would that put you? Sayre? I bought a quad from a dealer in Sayre about 5-6 years ago (Northeast ATV). The area looked nice and suburban-ish. I could easily make that move. The closest part of PA from me is Great Bend, and the area looks like poop. Are they doing fracking up there in Great Bend ? I'm not sure. I used to go there all the time to buy my smokes, but I quit smoking and never go there anymore. |
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Outright ownership ban of AR15 type of rifles, magazines over 9 rounds. No grandfather clause and no sunset clause I'll be leaving the state if that happens Yep. pull up stakes and move 15 miles south for me. Where would that put you? Sayre? I bought a quad from a dealer in Sayre about 5-6 years ago (Northeast ATV). The area looked nice and suburban-ish. I could easily make that move. The closest part of PA from me is Great Bend, and the area looks like poop. I am not into town or village living. Once the market around here rebounds post flood and I can sell my house for more than what I have in it, I am planning on finding a chunk of land and building a home. South of Owego would be ideal. |
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Outright ownership ban of AR15 type of rifles, magazines over 9 rounds. No grandfather clause and no sunset clause I'll be leaving the state if that happens Yep. pull up stakes and move 15 miles south for me. Where would that put you? Sayre? I bought a quad from a dealer in Sayre about 5-6 years ago (Northeast ATV). The area looked nice and suburban-ish. I could easily make that move. The closest part of PA from me is Great Bend, and the area looks like poop. I am not into town or village living. Once the market around here rebounds post flood and I can sell my house for more than what I have in it, I am planning on finding a chunk of land and building a home. South of Owego would be ideal. As much as I'd like to live in the "country", I don't think I'd last long. Too quiet. I'd love a weekend getaway in the sticks, though.
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Quoted: Word is that Prince Andrew is waiting to see what takes hold nationally. That's a depressing thought. If a new federal AWB is passed NY will probably drop the issue, if it fails we will probably get super state AWB2. We are almost better off with a new fed awb in NY  |
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They can pass anything they want.
"Outside the home" is currently a split NY/Illinois, will probably go to SCOTUS, which will rule outside the home is covered by 2A. Outright ban on anything is cost prohibitive. Grandfathering would be most likely...then we sit tight and wait for industry to find ways to comply just like in the past. Eventually the AWB will be challenged, based on "commonly in use." The basis needs to be built, so plan on a long wait; of course a change in SCOTUS will torpedo that. I think they'll wait for the federal anti stuff, because it will be outside the scope of legislature, that way politicians are not on the hook. At the state level, plan on registration, renewable permits for both pistols and rifles, and pistol permits being difficult to obtain- no more "shall issue." And perhaps rediculous costs associated with registering of firearms, making them cost-prohibitive to purchase. |
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Outright ownership ban of AR15 type of rifles, magazines over 9 rounds. No grandfather clause and no sunset clause I'll be leaving the state if that happens I'm not far from the PA border, and work about 10 minutes from that border. It's pretty enticing. It's just that there's no nice places to live right near the border in PA, that I've seen. Are you nuts ???? Darn if you have the chance to jump ship and run to a free state do it. I have two and half more years here until my last son is done High School and I'm out of this liberal asshat state. My wife and I have been looking all over Pa in the past six months for place to live. I am prepared to do just that, if NYS passes a new full out right AWB2 that requires registration, confiscation or any other left wing crazy restrictions I am out of here. Frack this state, I will take my tax dollars to a free state that respects the 2A and isn't looking to tell me how much soda I can drink. This state has gone full retard and I have been thinking about leaving it for sometime now and a new state wide AWB2 will just speed up the process. The only thing that has been holding me back thus far is the fact that my daughter lives and goes to collage in NJ and as a dad, I of course want and need to live as close as possible to her. Now with that said, she will have her degree come mid 2013 and is thinking of leaving the state herself, which means I will have more choices where to spend my tax dollars. I am currently considering PA, NH and VT and if by chance the country does go full coocoo for coco puffs with a new full out blown AWB2, well then I guess were all fracked... 
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They can pass anything they want. "Outside the home" is currently a split NY/Illinois, will probably go to SCOTUS, which will rule outside the home is covered by 2A. Outright ban on anything is cost prohibitive. Grandfathering would be most likely...then we sit tight and wait for industry to find ways to comply just like in the past. Eventually the AWB will be challenged, based on "commonly in use." The basis needs to be built, so plan on a long wait; of course a change in SCOTUS will torpedo that. I think they'll wait for the federal anti stuff, because it will be outside the scope of legislature, that way politicians are not on the hook. At the state level, plan on registration, renewable permits for both pistols and rifles, and pistol permits being difficult to obtain- no more "shall issue." And perhaps rediculous costs associated with registering of firearms, making them cost-prohibitive to purchase. Don't forget we are one Obama Supreme Court Justice appointment away from having Heller and the cases following it overturned or at the least gutted.
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Don't forget we are one Obama Supreme Court Justice appointment away from having Heller and the cases following it overturned or at the least gutted. Probably not that likely it will happen. SCOTUS has a history leaving precedent alone, as in they prefer not to dabble in overturning previous rulings. I think Heller and McDonald are no different. IMHO, more than likely the court will simply refuse to hear future cases challenging gun control laws. |
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Im 10 mins from PA. I do t think PA is a great choice, better than NY yes, but that place is turning into NY's brother. I to lived in a free state once and I regret coming back here every day, but im some what stuck now. Can you elaborate on the bold/red. I don't really keep up on PA's atmosphere. |
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Im 10 mins from PA. I do t think PA is a great choice, better than NY yes, but that place is turning into NY's brother. I to lived in a free state once and I regret coming back here every day, but im some what stuck now. Can you elaborate on the bold/red. I don't really keep up on PA's atmosphere. Too many NY'ers have moved to PA and are turning it just like NY. I watched the same thing happen when i lived in Colorado, Californians are destroying that state. Dont take this as you have to live in a red state to be free, but the political climate over the past decade has shown me how people leave strict blue states for predominately red states and take their politics with them. One of the major reasons I dont like PA is that you cannot hunt with an AR, I give NY credit for allowing us to do so. I believe i did hear somewhere that PA has the largest NRA membership out of any state, so id guess that helps keep the gun laws lax. But the more people move to urban areas, the more you will continue to see 2A rights be addressed. At least thats the way Im seeing it... |
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Im 10 mins from PA. I do t think PA is a great choice, better than NY yes, but that place is turning into NY's brother. I to lived in a free state once and I regret coming back here every day, but im some what stuck now. Can you elaborate on the bold/red. I don't really keep up on PA's atmosphere. Too many NY'ers have moved to PA and are turning it just like NY. I watched the same thing happen when i lived in Colorado, Californians are destroying that state. Dont take this as you have to live in a red state to be free, but the political climate over the past decade has shown me how people leave strict blue states for predominately red states and take their politics with them. One of the major reasons I dont like PA is that you cannot hunt with an AR, I give NY credit for allowing us to do so. I believe i did hear somewhere that PA has the largest NRA membership out of any state, so id guess that helps keep the gun laws lax. But the more people move to urban areas, the more you will continue to see 2A rights be addressed. At least thats the way Im seeing it... Gotcha. I'd still much prefer PA to NY. Gun laws aside, taxes are cheaper.
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Im 10 mins from PA. I do t think PA is a great choice, better than NY yes, but that place is turning into NY's brother. I to lived in a free state once and I regret coming back here every day, but im some what stuck now. Can you elaborate on the bold/red. I don't really keep up on PA's atmosphere. Too many NY'ers have moved to PA and are turning it just like NY. I watched the same thing happen when i lived in Colorado, Californians are destroying that state. Dont take this as you have to live in a red state to be free, but the political climate over the past decade has shown me how people leave strict blue states for predominately red states and take their politics with them. One of the major reasons I dont like PA is that you cannot hunt with an AR, I give NY credit for allowing us to do so. I believe i did hear somewhere that PA has the largest NRA membership out of any state, so id guess that helps keep the gun laws lax. But the more people move to urban areas, the more you will continue to see 2A rights be addressed. At least thats the way Im seeing it... I wonder if the sprawling Philthydelphia mindset is their version of the NYC mindset and thusly wagging the dog down there. They're a huge welfare state now so guess how they vote. |
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Im 10 mins from PA. I do t think PA is a great choice, better than NY yes, but that place is turning into NY's brother. I to lived in a free state once and I regret coming back here every day, but im some what stuck now. Can you elaborate on the bold/red. I don't really keep up on PA's atmosphere. Too many NY'ers have moved to PA and are turning it just like NY. I watched the same thing happen when i lived in Colorado, Californians are destroying that state. Dont take this as you have to live in a red state to be free, but the political climate over the past decade has shown me how people leave strict blue states for predominately red states and take their politics with them. One of the major reasons I dont like PA is that you cannot hunt with an AR, I give NY credit for allowing us to do so. I believe i did hear somewhere that PA has the largest NRA membership out of any state, so id guess that helps keep the gun laws lax. But the more people move to urban areas, the more you will continue to see 2A rights be addressed. At least thats the way Im seeing it... I wonder if the sprawling Philthydelphia mindset is their version of the NYC mindset and thusly wagging the dog down there. They're a huge welfare state now so guess how they vote. According to my PSP bretheren the state is squeezed by Philly and Pittsburgh. |
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Outright ownership ban of AR15 type of rifles, magazines over 9 rounds. No grandfather clause and no sunset clause I'll be leaving the state if that happens Yep. pull up stakes and move 15 miles south for me. When I say I'm leaving, I mean I'm leaving. At this point I'm thinking maybe work overseas a few years as a contractor, then snowbird my way around the country before I am too old to enjoy it. No permanent base anywhere, although I suppose a couple of acres somewhere othe than NYS in the hills somewhere that has 3 or 4 seasons that I could call a home base if I had to would be just fine. |
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We would have to step up and protest our rights, if not then we take it in the ass like the brits ! ITS OUR RIGHT ! I don't know about you but i don't want to give up my RIGHT to own a AR Alright, when someone questions you "whadda need that thing for?" or "no one needs...." you'd better have and answer and be prepared to defend it with logic. The second amendment to the Constitution of these United States was put in place as a protection from those that would enslave you. The reason why they ultimately can't take that right is because of it. 
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AWB1 or AWB 2 or 7 or 12...nothing will change. New laws, more bullshit to hurt us and solve nothing..
Isn't that the way politics work? Look @ NY taxes, we get fucked right in the ass so the welfare and lazy can thrive, and nothing we do will change that. This state is a fucking joke and its a joke to everyone outside of it. |
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We would have to step up and protest our rights, if not then we take it in the ass like the brits ! ITS OUR RIGHT ! I don't know about you but i don't want to give up my RIGHT to own a AR Alright, when someone questions you "whadda need that thing for?" or "no one needs...." you'd better have and answer and be prepared to defend it with logic. The second amendment to the Constitution of these United States was put in place as a protection from those that would enslave you. The reason why they ultimately can't take that right is because of it. Berlin, 1936 Olympics. Berlin, 1972 Olympics. Sarjevo, 1984 Olympics. |
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AWB1 or AWB 2 or 7 or 12...nothing will change. New laws, more bullshit to hurt us and solve nothing.. Isn't that the way politics work? Look @ NY taxes, we get fucked right in the ass so the welfare and lazy can thrive, and nothing we do will change that. This state is a fucking joke and its a joke to everyone outside of it. Amen |
| Latest word is rumors of a possible special NY legislative session to address new gun laws. If it actually happens it means a deal has been made and somethings going to be passed. The other story floating is Cuomo will request new laws in his state of the state address. |
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Latest word is rumors of a possible special NY legislative session to address new gun laws. If it actually happens it means a deal has been made and somethings going to be passed. The other story floating is Cuomo will request new laws in his state of the state address. I urge everyone to go th the NY dally news website and fill out their assault weapon petition in a way that makes them understand how we feel. |
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Here's a possibly more prudent question: If they sign something over this next week or shortly later in January, what's the earliest possible "go live" date for it? With the current one it was September 1994. If they pass it in January, is that the date that everything would become illegal or would it have to be some later date? |
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Quoted: Quoted: Latest word is rumors of a possible special NY legislative session to address new gun laws. If it actually happens it means a deal has been made and somethings going to be passed. The other story floating is Cuomo will request new laws in his state of the state address. I urge everyone to go th the NY dally news website and fill out their assault weapon petition in a way that makes them understand how we feel. I don't read the NY Daily News. It made my fish stink when I use it wrap them up  That being said, I do read the New York Times but even that has been pissing me off lately. Primarily, I like to read their business section and foreign news coverage. I avoid their domestic news. |