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3/11/2011 12:34:46 PM EDT
I am looking at buying an FN FS2000 on gunbr____.com and I am still trying to figure out if its legal to own in NY with the flash hider/threaded barrel since in my opinion the pistol grip does not protrude from the receiver but is rather part of the stock and that would leave the removable magazine and threaded end as my 2 Baby Killing Features am I correct in my translation of our BS laws?
3/11/2011 12:40:22 PM EDT
[#1]
Does it have a bayonet mount?

If not you should be good to go.
3/11/2011 12:42:03 PM EDT
[#2]
no bayo lug at all
3/11/2011 12:57:03 PM EDT
[#3]
Check with the PD first, some places don't allow threaded barrels. Don't know how true it is but better safe then sorry.
3/11/2011 1:04:45 PM EDT
[#4]
FS2000 with a bayonet...

You're talking "up close and personal" there...
3/11/2011 1:25:30 PM EDT
[#5]
The magazine does not count as an "evil feature".
3/11/2011 1:45:38 PM EDT
[#6]
removable magazine is an evil feature same as bayo lug, threaded barrel collapsible stock
3/11/2011 2:10:17 PM EDT
[#7]



Quoted:


removable magazine is an evil feature same as bayo lug, threaded barrel collapsible stock


Actually a detachable magazine is not a feature as far as the AW features test is concerned.





22. "Assault weapon" means (a)  a  semiautomatic  rifle  that  has  an

 ability  to  accept  a  detachable  magazine and has at least two of the

 following characteristics:

   (i) a folding or telescoping stock;

   (ii) a pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action  of

 the weapon;

   (iii) a bayonet mount;

   (iv)  a  flash suppressor or threaded barrel designed to accommodate a

 flash suppressor;

   (v) a grenade launcher; or



 
3/11/2011 4:39:50 PM EDT
[#8]
So wait, a FS2000 is NY legal, even with the flash hider?
3/11/2011 5:08:32 PM EDT
[#9]
yeah because it does not have a pistol grip
3/11/2011 5:42:07 PM EDT
[#10]
FS2000 is ny legal, though it is a muzzle brake from factory not a FH
3/12/2011 6:43:23 PM EDT
[#11]



Quoted:


FS2000 is ny legal, though it is a muzzle brake from factory not a FH


Have you ever looked at one up close? The one on mine was in no way shape or form a muzzle brake.



Even the FN Forum guys know it's a flash hider....



http://www.fnforum.net/illustrated-guide-to-removing-fs2000-flash-hider-dimensions-t13384.html
 
3/12/2011 8:03:52 PM EDT
[#12]
My brother has one, has a muzzle brake on it, was told it came from the factory as is.

http://www.fnhusa.com/le/products/firearms/model.asp?fid=FNF011&gid=FNG006&mid=FNM0138

also click on specifications, it says Muzzle Brake
3/15/2011 2:23:36 PM EDT
[#13]




Quoted:

My brother has one, has a muzzle brake on it, was told it came from the factory as is.



http://www.fnhusa.com/le/products/firearms/model.asp?fid=FNF011&gid=FNG006&mid=FNM0138



also click on specifications, it says Muzzle Brake





I guess they can say whatever they want on their website. In the owners manual it's called a flash hider. And obviously, being in/from NY we're familiar with flash hiders and muzzle brakes. IMHO the FN's has no characteristics of a muzzle brake. It's closer to an A2 birdcage than anything else.



http://www.fnhusa1.com/manuals/OM_FS2000_0608.pdf



p.9

Although the FS2000 carbine has been provided with a

special safety device to prevent firing when it is accidentally

dropped on its flash-hider (even when it is cocked), be

extremely careful, like with any other firearm, to avoid

dropping the carbine.



p. 16

- The flash hider plug:



The flash hider plug can be fitted onto the flash hider in

order to protect the barrel.



3/15/2011 2:54:12 PM EDT
[#14]
Yup, your right it is a fh.  Came back from brothers and took a look while I was there.  I swear it had a closed off end when I used it but that was a few years ago.
3/15/2011 4:50:02 PM EDT
[#15]
Quoted:

Quoted:
My brother has one, has a muzzle brake on it, was told it came from the factory as is.

http://www.fnhusa.com/le/products/firearms/model.asp?fid=FNF011&gid=FNG006&mid=FNM0138

also click on specifications, it says Muzzle Brake


I guess they can say whatever they want on their website. In the owners manual it's called a flash hider. And obviously, being in/from NY we're familiar with flash hiders and muzzle brakes. IMHO the FN's has no characteristics of a muzzle brake. It's closer to an A2 birdcage than anything else.

http://www.fnhusa1.com/manuals/OM_FS2000_0608.pdf

p.9
Although the FS2000 carbine has been provided with a
special safety device to prevent firing when it is accidentally
dropped on its flash-hider (even when it is cocked), be
extremely careful, like with any other firearm, to avoid
dropping the carbine.

p. 16
- The flash hider plug:

The flash hider plug can be fitted onto the flash hider in
order to protect the barrel.



+1

They are flash hiders.

Look at US Army military manuals, they list the A2 Birdcage as a  "muzzle brake" if i recall.

muzzle brake per the Army...but flash hider per ATF


That said, FS2000s are factory legal in NYS.  I wanted one for awhile.