Posted: 2/23/2011 8:16:45 AM EDT
| On what basis is it perfectly legal to own/buy something in one state, but move to NY/CA/NJ/IL with it and your a felon? |
| The AWB and other violations of gun owner rights aren't legal, but because of the lack of court support from 1879 to 2008 due to Supreme Court cases giving lower courts free reign to completely ignore the 2nd and 14th Amendments, NYS has been able to get away with it thus far. We're working our way forward to eradicating the AWB and Sullivan Law, but it's a slow process and we're fighting our way back from being that deep in the weeds. As of this afternoon there is motion in progress to give our side equal footing with the other in the courts to start marching back against the antis. Stay tuned. |
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The AWB and other violations of gun owner rights aren't legal, but because of the lack of court support from 1879 to 2008 due to Supreme Court cases giving lower courts free reign to completely ignore the 2nd and 14th Amendments, NYS has been able to get away with it thus far. We're working our way forward to eradicating the AWB and Sullivan Law, but it's a slow process and we're fighting our way back from being that deep in the weeds. As of this afternoon there is motion in progress to give our side equal footing with the other in the courts to start marching back against the antis. Stay tuned. Good to hear. Didn't think there was any solid basis in it and other laws legality. |
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Quoted: Quoted: The AWB and other violations of gun owner rights aren't legal, but because of the lack of court support from 1879 to 2008 due to Supreme Court cases giving lower courts free reign to completely ignore the 2nd and 14th Amendments, NYS has been able to get away with it thus far. We're working our way forward to eradicating the AWB and Sullivan Law, but it's a slow process and we're fighting our way back from being that deep in the weeds. As of this afternoon there is motion in progress to give our side equal footing with the other in the courts to start marching back against the antis. Stay tuned. Good to hear. Didn't think there was any solid basis in it and other laws legality. The AWB may violate the 2nd Amendment, but the concept that possession of something may be legal in one jurisdiction and illegal in another is nothing new or earth shattering. |
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The AWB and other violations of gun owner rights aren't legal, but because of the lack of court support from 1879 to 2008 due to Supreme Court cases giving lower courts free reign to completely ignore the 2nd and 14th Amendments, NYS has been able to get away with it thus far. We're working our way forward to eradicating the AWB and Sullivan Law, but it's a slow process and we're fighting our way back from being that deep in the weeds. As of this afternoon there is motion in progress to give our side equal footing with the other in the courts to start marching back against the antis. Stay tuned. Good to hear. Didn't think there was any solid basis in it and other laws legality. The AWB may violate the 2nd Amendment, but the concept that possession of something may be legal in one jurisdiction and illegal in another is nothing new or earth shattering. nope, not new, but what doctrine, law, amendment... makes it legal? |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: The AWB and other violations of gun owner rights aren't legal, but because of the lack of court support from 1879 to 2008 due to Supreme Court cases giving lower courts free reign to completely ignore the 2nd and 14th Amendments, NYS has been able to get away with it thus far. We're working our way forward to eradicating the AWB and Sullivan Law, but it's a slow process and we're fighting our way back from being that deep in the weeds. As of this afternoon there is motion in progress to give our side equal footing with the other in the courts to start marching back against the antis. Stay tuned. Good to hear. Didn't think there was any solid basis in it and other laws legality. The AWB may violate the 2nd Amendment, but the concept that possession of something may be legal in one jurisdiction and illegal in another is nothing new or earth shattering. nope, not new, but what doctrine, law, amendment... makes it legal? There is no law or statute that does that, nor does there need to be. It's a fundamental principle of our legal system that different jurisdictions can have different laws, and that a jurisdiction's laws only extend to that jurisdiction's borders (with limited exceptions). In your example, you need to remember that the states are sovereign. |
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All fireworks of any kind are banned in New York yet most states at least allow "safe and sane" class fireworks. Ontario, Canada, which is the epitome of the nanny state, allows all kinds of fireworks for consumers. Except for Victoria Day and Canada Day, you need simple approval from the Fire Marshal to shoot stuff off. That approval is readily and easily available. They just review the safety regulations with you and you are good to go. |
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All fireworks of any kind are banned in New York yet most states at least allow "safe and sane" class fireworks. Ontario, Canada, which is the epitome of the nanny state, allows all kinds of fireworks for consumers. Except for Victoria Day and Canada Day, you need simple approval from the Fire Marshal to shoot stuff off. That approval is readily and easily available. They just review the safety regulations with you and you are good to go. For the record, legislation to legalize fireworks is introduced in the NYS legislature every year. A1102A/S0465A A04362 this year I believe. Care to guess which party and which region of the state keep blocking it? |
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All fireworks of any kind are banned in New York yet most states at least allow "safe and sane" class fireworks. Ontario, Canada, which is the epitome of the nanny state, allows all kinds of fireworks for consumers. Except for Victoria Day and Canada Day, you need simple approval from the Fire Marshal to shoot stuff off. That approval is readily and easily available. They just review the safety regulations with you and you are good to go. For the record, legislation to legalize fireworks is introduced in the NYS legislature every year. A1102A/S0465A A04362 this year I believe. Care to guess which party and which region of the state keep blocking it? they are dangerous its to make you more safe |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: All fireworks of any kind are banned in New York yet most states at least allow "safe and sane" class fireworks. Ontario, Canada, which is the epitome of the nanny state, allows all kinds of fireworks for consumers. Except for Victoria Day and Canada Day, you need simple approval from the Fire Marshal to shoot stuff off. That approval is readily and easily available. They just review the safety regulations with you and you are good to go. For the record, legislation to legalize fireworks is introduced in the NYS legislature every year. A1102A/S0465A A04362 this year I believe. Care to guess which party and which region of the state keep blocking it? they are dangerous its to make you more safe For teg chilluns. |
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just drive to PA and buy fireworks and celebrate INDEPENDENCE like a real American. plus, you get the satisfaction of paying sales tax to a state that is NOT NY. I hear NYSP has been known to follow people back over the border and pull them over. Oh no...a violation...! |
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just drive to PA and buy fireworks and celebrate INDEPENDENCE like a real American. plus, you get the satisfaction of paying sales tax to a state that is NOT NY. I hear NYSP has been known to follow people back over the border and pull them over. Oh no...a violation...! what happens, they take the fireworks...and what...a small fine or what? i know of no such activities ever happening mum is the word , ya heard 
honestly , no fireworks doenst matter one way or the other to me. I can do without quite easily. The 4th is plenty fireworks for me. |
| The thing that really is stupid (yes, stupid, is there a better word?) is that a given action can be a FELONY in one state, and just over the state line it's OK. Yet that felony follows you throughout the USA. How can something be a FELONY here and totallly legal over an arbitrary line? |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: just drive to PA and buy fireworks and celebrate INDEPENDENCE like a real American. plus, you get the satisfaction of paying sales tax to a state that is NOT NY. I hear NYSP has been known to follow people back over the border and pull them over. Oh no...a violation...! More hassle than I care to deal with. I don't really have any place to set them off anyway. |
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Quoted: The thing that really is stupid (yes, stupid, is there a better word?) is that a given action can be a FELONY in one state, and just over the state line it's OK. Yet that felony follows you throughout the USA. How can something be a FELONY here and totallly legal over an arbitrary line? We went over that earlier. The states are sovereign, and the very concept of sovereignty requires that the above is possible. It's not just states. The borders with Canada and Mexico are just as "arbitrary" as those between states. See what happens if you bring so much as a .22LR cartridge over the border with Mexico. |