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6/9/2010 12:16:16 PM EDT
The microstamping bill has advanced to 2nd Report in the Senate. Eric Schneiderman thinks he has the votes because the Republicans cannot keep their conference together, especially Frank Padavan and Tom Morahan who is retiring.
6/9/2010 2:18:02 PM EDT
[#1]
Is Smith actually going to let it come to a vote?
6/9/2010 2:33:17 PM EDT
[#2]
it is up to Espada
6/9/2010 2:34:59 PM EDT
[#3]
It's a little unclear as to whether it will come to a vote.  It's also a little unclear as to who exactly runs the Senate.
6/9/2010 3:00:02 PM EDT
[#4]
Quoted:
It's a little unclear as to whether it will come to a vote.  It's also a little unclear as to who exactly runs the Senate.

Is Espada going to throw a tantrum again and flip sides for a week?


6/9/2010 5:31:03 PM EDT
[#6]

Given the failure that is COBIS, the fact that our legislature is even consideing this is proof that they've gone full retard. They have no clue what they're proposing.

Anyone know when this would be implemented if it becomes law? I might have to make some purchases......
6/9/2010 5:42:04 PM EDT
[#7]
^^^reilly, this isn't a done deal by any stretch.  There are still senators on the fence over how they'd vote so it's up to us to call 'em now FTW.

Here's your calling list (posted by rkbar15)...make sure you call Padavan and Morahan tomorrow!!

Senate Minority Leader

Skelos, Dean G. Senatorial District 09th, R-I-C
Counties: Part of Nassau
District: 55 Front Street , Rockville Center, NY 11570 516-766-8383
518-455-3171
Internet E-Mail: [email protected] (Send mail to ALB.)


Full list here: http://www.nysenate.gov/files/pdfs/MEMBERS%205:20:2010.pdf


Republican's in districts 1-40

Flanagan, John J. Senatorial District 02nd, R-I-C
Counties: Part of Suffolk
District: 260 Middle Country Road, Suite 203 , Smithtown, NY 11787 631-361-2154
518-455-2071
Internet E-Mail: [email protected]
Albany: 613 Legislative Office Bldg., Albany, NY 12247

Fuschillo, Charles J., Jr. Senatorial District 08th, R-I-C
Counties: Parts of Nassau and Suffolk
District: 5550 Merrick Rd Suite 204, Massapequa, NY 11758 516-882-0630
518-455-3341
Internet E-Mail: [email protected]
Albany: 615 Legislative Office Bldg., Albany, NY 12247

Golden, Martin J. Senatorial District 22nd, R-C
Counties: Part of Kings
District: 7408 5th Ave 1st Floor, Brooklyn, NY 11209 718-238-6044
518-455-2730
Internet E-Mail: [email protected]
Albany: 504 Legislative Office Bldg., Albany, NY 12247

Hannon, Kemp Senatorial District 06th, R-I-C
Counties: Part of Nassau
District: 224 Seventh Street, 2nd Floor , Garden City, New York 11530 516-739-1700
518-455-2200
Internet E-Mail: [email protected] (Send mail to ALB.)

Johnson, Owen H. Senatorial District 04th, R-C
Counties: Part of Suffolk
District: 23-24 Argyle Square , Babylon, NY 11702 631-669-9200
518-455-3411
Internet E-Mail: [email protected]
Albany: 812 Legislative Office Bldg., Albany, NY 12247

Lanza, Andrew J. Senatorial District 24th, R-C-I
Counties: Part of Richmond
District: 3845 Richmond Ave., Suite 2A , Staten Island, NY 10312 718-984-4073
518-455-3215
Internet E-Mail: [email protected]
Albany: 604 Legislative Office Bldg., Albany

Larkin, William J., Jr. Senatorial District 39th, R-C
Counties: Parts of Orange and Ulster
District: 1093 Little Britain Road , New Windsor, NY 12553 845-567-1270
518-455-2770
Internet E-Mail: [email protected]
Albany: 406 Legislative Office Bldg., Albany, NY 12247

LaValle, Kenneth P. Senatorial District 01st, R-C-I
Counties: Part of Suffolk
District: 325 Middle Country Road, Suite 4 , Selden, NY 11784 631-696-6900
518-455-3121
Internet E-Mail: [email protected]
Albany: 707 Legislative Office Bldg., Albany, NY 12247

Leibell, Vincent L., III Senatorial District 40th, R-I-C
Counties: Putnam, parts of Dutchess (eastern) and Westchester (northern)
District: 1441 Route 22, Suite 205 , Brewster, NY 10509 845-279-3773
518-455-3111
Internet E-Mail: [email protected]
Albany: 313 Legislative Office Bldg., Albany, NY 12247

Marcellino, Carl L. Senatorial District 05th, R-I-C
Counties: Parts of Nassau and Suffolk
District: 250 Townsend Square , Oyster Bay, NY 11771 516-922-1811
518-455-2390
Internet E-Mail: [email protected] (Send mail to DIST.)
Albany: 517 Legislative Office Bldg., Albany, NY 12247

Morahan, Thomas P. Senatorial District 38th, R-I-C-W
Counties: Rockland and part of Orange
District: 158 Airport Executive Park , Nanuet, NY 10954 845-425-1818
518-455-3261
Internet E-Mail: [email protected]
Albany: 803 Legislative Office Bldg., Albany, NY 12247

Padavan, Frank Senatorial District 11th, R-I-C
Counties: Part of Queens
District: 89-39 Gettysburg Street , Bellerose, NY 11426 718-343-0255
518-455-3381
Internet E-Mail: [email protected]
Albany: 414 State Capitol Bldg., Albany, NY
 
6/10/2010 6:04:28 AM EDT
[#8]
The replies in red summarize the responses I was given this moring from each Senator's office.  It is abundantly clear that there are a few votes hanging in the balance and we need to call them pronto.  Calls from those residing within a Senator's district will carry a little more weight, but every call is logged with your position.

You can run through this entire list in about 20 minutes.  Simply ask the Senator's position, then ask them to take down your name, town and request to oppose.  With those who were undecided or undeclared, I gave a polite two sentence summary of how the supporters in CA have reversed their support (ex., CA Police Chiefs) and that the patents have yet to be released from the patent holders even though the bill was to take effect in January.  

Go get 'em!


Quoted:
^^^reilly, this isn't a done deal by any stretch.  There are still senators on the fence over how they'd vote so it's up to us to call 'em now FTW.

Here's your calling list (posted by rkbar15)...make sure you call Padavan and Morahan tomorrow!!

Senate Minority Leader

Skelos, Dean G. Senatorial District 09th, R-I-C   "Where are you calling from? (on hold) The bill is not up for a vote yet.  Do you have a position I can relay to the Senator?
Counties: Part of Nassau
District: 55 Front Street , Rockville Center, NY 11570 516-766-8383
518-455-3171
Internet E-Mail: [email protected] (Send mail to ALB.)


Full list here: http://www.nysenate.gov/files/pdfs/MEMBERS%205:20:2010.pdf


Republican's in districts 1-40

Flanagan, John J. Senatorial District 02nd, R-I-C  "Voted against it in Codes."  
Counties: Part of Suffolk
District: 260 Middle Country Road, Suite 203 , Smithtown, NY 11787 631-361-2154
518-455-2071
Internet E-Mail: [email protected]
Albany: 613 Legislative Office Bldg., Albany, NY 12247

Fuschillo, Charles J., Jr. Senatorial District 08th, R-I-C    "I have not asked the Senator about that."
Counties: Parts of Nassau and Suffolk
District: 5550 Merrick Rd Suite 204, Massapequa, NY 11758 516-882-0630
518-455-3341
Internet E-Mail: [email protected]
Albany: 615 Legislative Office Bldg., Albany, NY 12247

Golden, Martin J. Senatorial District 22nd, R-C    "He voted against it in committee....I'm (woman who took my call speaking) a pistol owner...Don't they get it that all of the supporters in CA have gone away?"  Great lady!!
Counties: Part of Kings
District: 7408 5th Ave 1st Floor, Brooklyn, NY 11209 718-238-6044
518-455-2730
Internet E-Mail: [email protected]
Albany: 504 Legislative Office Bldg., Albany, NY 12247

Hannon, Kemp Senatorial District 06th, R-I-C    "The Senator does not share information on how he'll vote.  I can take your name and information and pass it along to the Senator."
Counties: Part of Nassau
District: 224 Seventh Street, 2nd Floor , Garden City, New York 11530 516-739-1700
518-455-2200
Internet E-Mail: [email protected] (Send mail to ALB.)

Johnson, Owen H. Senatorial District 04th, R-C    "Opposes it."
Counties: Part of Suffolk
District: 23-24 Argyle Square , Babylon, NY 11702 631-669-9200
518-455-3411
Internet E-Mail: [email protected]
Albany: 812 Legislative Office Bldg., Albany, NY 12247

Lanza, Andrew J. Senatorial District 24th, R-C-I    Senator voted against it in committee."
Counties: Part of Richmond
District: 3845 Richmond Ave., Suite 2A , Staten Island, NY 10312 718-984-4073
518-455-3215
Internet E-Mail: [email protected]
Albany: 604 Legislative Office Bldg., Albany

Larkin, William J., Jr. Senatorial District 39th, R-C     "Opposes it...Can I add your name to the Senator's list?"
Counties: Parts of Orange and Ulster
District: 1093 Little Britain Road , New Windsor, NY 12553 845-567-1270
518-455-2770
Internet E-Mail: [email protected]
Albany: 406 Legislative Office Bldg., Albany, NY 12247

LaValle, Kenneth P. Senatorial District 01st, R-C-I    Hold on one second...voted against it last year...opposes it."
Counties: Part of Suffolk
District: 325 Middle Country Road, Suite 4 , Selden, NY 11784 631-696-6900
518-455-3121
Internet E-Mail: [email protected]
Albany: 707 Legislative Office Bldg., Albany, NY 12247

Leibell, Vincent L., III Senatorial District 40th, R-I-C     Will vote against it."
Counties: Putnam, parts of Dutchess (eastern) and Westchester (northern)
District: 1441 Route 22, Suite 205 , Brewster, NY 10509 845-279-3773
518-455-3111
Internet E-Mail: [email protected]
Albany: 313 Legislative Office Bldg., Albany, NY 12247

Marcellino, Carl L. Senatorial District 05th, R-I-C    "Opposes it."
Counties: Parts of Nassau and Suffolk
District: 250 Townsend Square , Oyster Bay, NY 11771 516-922-1811
518-455-2390
Internet E-Mail: [email protected] (Send mail to DIST.)
Albany: 517 Legislative Office Bldg., Albany, NY 12247

Morahan, Thomas P. Senatorial District 38th, R-I-C-W  ***"Has not made a decision yet, but based on past discussion is not likely to vote for it.  Senator's health may prevent him from being present for a vote."***
Counties: Rockland and part of Orange
District: 158 Airport Executive Park , Nanuet, NY 10954 845-425-1818
518-455-3261
Internet E-Mail: [email protected]
Albany: 803 Legislative Office Bldg., Albany, NY 12247

Padavan, Frank Senatorial District 11th, R-I-C    ***"Still reviewing."***
Counties: Part of Queens
District: 89-39 Gettysburg Street , Bellerose, NY 11426 718-343-0255
518-455-3381
Internet E-Mail: [email protected]
Albany: 414 State Capitol Bldg., Albany, NY
 


6/10/2010 6:17:02 AM EDT
[#9]





Quoted:






Padavan, Frank Senatorial District 11th, R-I-C    ***"Still reviewing."***


Counties: Part of Queens


District: 89-39 Gettysburg Street , Bellerose, NY 11426 718-343-0255


518-455-3381


Internet E-Mail: [email protected]


Albany: 414 State Capitol Bldg., Albany, NY



Considering he has been a big supporter of various gun controls bills promulgated by the assembly, usually the Republican Senate sponsor, I am sure his "review" will result in a vote in the affirmative.



 
 
6/11/2010 5:03:47 AM EDT
[#12]
Lets flood them with calls/emails.


Some good resources for the case against microstamping can be found here:

http://www.nssf.org/newsroom/factsheets/microstamping.cfm

(Mods, make hot if its a kosher site).
6/11/2010 9:15:56 AM EDT
[#13]
Heard an advertisement on WCBS 880 sponsored by the NSSF opposing the bill.  It is the first time in my life I can recall hearing a pro-gun advertisement on a New York City area radio station.
6/11/2010 4:19:24 PM EDT
[#14]
JW, well done. Good work.
I am urging some of our area senators to corral the strays from the R herd.

I have heard there will be at least 2 R who will vote YES.

That is BS about the turd who says the senator will "not discuss his postion". BS. We pay your damn salary and benefiits, you had better discuss your positions

I heard that radio ad locally here in Rochester too.!
6/11/2010 6:18:45 PM EDT
[#15]



Quoted:


Heard an advertisement on WCBS 880 sponsored by the NSSF opposing the bill.  It is the first time in my life I can recall hearing a pro-gun advertisement on a New York City area radio station.


Me too, I put my hand up and shushed my wife (cuz she was saying something really important) and couldn't believe my ears. Hearing ads on WBAB for Coliseum Gun Traders was kinda weird too.



 
6/11/2010 7:59:23 PM EDT
[#16]
Quoted:
JW, well done. Good work.
I am urging some of our area senators to corral the strays from the R herd.

I have heard there will be at least 2 R who will vote YES.

That is BS about the turd who says the senator will "not discuss his postion". BS. We pay your damn salary and benefiits, you had better discuss your positions

I heard that radio ad locally here in Rochester too.!


Keep hittin 'em JPP.  This is a fluid situation and our volume of calls is definitely making a positive impact.
6/11/2010 8:12:11 PM EDT
[#17]
how many times should you call the same rep?
6/12/2010 2:45:22 AM EDT
[#18]
Keep calling until the issue goes away.  Call the Albany office and the district office.  Do not stop.
6/13/2010 3:22:40 PM EDT
[#19]
Morahan and Padavan deserve extra special attention...hammer them with more calls!    With three conservative Dems pledging to oppose the bill, the problem remains the GOP not being able to get everyone to hold the line.
6/14/2010 10:10:55 AM EDT
[#20]
Am I to understand from that list that Marcellino opposes it?
6/14/2010 3:16:51 PM EDT
[#21]
F'ing Bloomberg just put his weight behind this bs. Are we screwed yet?
6/14/2010 3:21:00 PM EDT
[#22]
Quoted:
Am I to understand from that list that Marcellino opposes it?


That is what his staff member told me....verbatim.
6/15/2010 3:29:42 AM EDT
[#23]



Quoted:


Am I to understand from that list that Marcellino opposes it?


I have talked to Marcellino in the past and I can confirm it.  



 
6/15/2010 4:35:25 AM EDT
[#24]



Quoted:


F'ing Bloomberg just put his weight behind this bs. Are we screwed yet?


He's probably going to buy off every politician in Albany running for state office in November.



http://www.nydailynews.com/ny_local/2010/06/10/2010-06-10_bloomberg_outspent_all_other_new_york_politicians_combined_on_campaigns_last_yea.html



Bloomberg as an individual contributed more to his political campaign for Mayor in NYS than the combined campaign contributions made to every other candidate    18+ million population of NYS.



Mayor Bloomberg spends nearly $110M to get reelected, beating out combined donations for all NY pols



BY Celeste Katz AND Adam Lisberg



DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITERS



Thursday, June 10th 2010, 4:00 AM



Mayor Bloomberg didn't just spend more money on politics last year than anyone else in New York - he spent more than everyone else in New York.



Hizzoner spent $109.9 million to get re-elected, while all other New Yorkers combined donated just $90.7 million to candidates and parties.



$107.6 million of Bloomberg's cash went directly to his reelection fund. Another $2.2 million went to the Republican and Independence parties, which put him on their ballots.



A Bloomberg spokesman declined to comment.



 
6/15/2010 6:27:21 AM EDT
[#25]
Just finished making a few more calls, I guess will know more today as it is on the session calender...Still time to make those calls
6/15/2010 6:36:35 AM EDT
[#26]
Quoted:
Morahan and Padavan deserve extra special attention...hammer them with more calls!  


I don't think Morahan will be voting on anything anytime soon.
6/15/2010 8:11:36 AM EDT
[#27]
hey just looking for some feedback on an email I whipped up.  Too much or not enough?

Senator,
   First of all I would like to thank you for your time.  As to the issue at hand I would strongly urge you and the rest of the Republican party to OPPOSE the microstamping bill that is currently on the floor of the NY Senate.  This would not only kill an industry that generates all too important revenue for our great and financially distraught state, but it would limit the God given rights of free Americans to protect themselves and enjoy a great American pastime. Another point being that this is an unproven easily defeated measure that would, in line with COBIS, simply waste lots of tax payer money.  Actually what we (Albany) should be discussing is the abolishment of COBIS but that is for another time.
   As an aside note this bill, I would suspect, is being pushed all too aggressively by the ONE AND ONLY company that holds the incomplete patent on said technology therefore creating a monopoly on the industry.  It would be like passing a bill mandating that everyone buy Mobil gasoline.  It's just not fair, moral, or ethical.  It's down right greedy and plain wrong.  
   Again, I appreciate your time and urge you to get on any and all senators in your party to kill this terrible bill.

Best regards and thanks,
My name and address
6/15/2010 8:18:06 AM EDT
[#28]
Quoted:

Quoted:
Am I to understand from that list that Marcellino opposes it?

I have talked to Marcellino in the past and I can confirm it.  
 


Good
6/15/2010 8:29:03 AM EDT
[#29]
make sure you call Skelos
6/15/2010 10:51:33 AM EDT
[#30]
Quoted:
make sure you call Skelos


Gave his office some heat for allowing the NY Pistol Permit list to get FOIL'd too.
6/15/2010 10:59:42 AM EDT
[#31]
Looks like the bill was laid aside.

How does this affect it?
6/15/2010 11:02:20 AM EDT
[#33]
Quoted:
Looks like the bill was laid aside.

How does this affect it?


that means it can come up for a vote on another day... we need to be relentless with our calls to the senators.. be polite and make as many calls as you can...
6/15/2010 11:02:58 AM EDT
[#34]





Quoted:





Quoted:
Quoted:


Am I to understand from that list that Marcellino opposes it?



I have talked to Marcellino in the past and I can confirm it.  


 



Good



I remember the first time I talked to him about some firearm legislation years ago he told me not to worry about it and that he was an owner too.  Just for fun, I checked that NY Packing website that is causing so much grief and, sure enough, he has a license (old database listing)!  I doubt he is going to vote for a law that will hit him personally.
 
6/15/2010 11:04:35 AM EDT
[#35]
Quoted:
hey just looking for some feedback on an email I whipped up.  Too much or not enough?

Senator,
   First of all I would like to thank you for your time.  As to the issue at hand I would strongly urge you and the rest of the Republican party to OPPOSE the microstamping bill that is currently on the floor of the NY Senate.  This would not only kill an industry that generates all too important revenue for our great and financially distraught state, but it would limit the God given rights of free Americans to protect themselves and enjoy a great American pastime. Another point being that this is an unproven easily defeated measure that would, in line with COBIS, simply waste lots of tax payer money.  Actually what we (Albany) should be discussing is the abolishment of COBIS but that is for another time.
   As an aside note this bill, I would suspect, is being pushed all too aggressively by the ONE AND ONLY company that holds the incomplete patent on said technology therefore creating a monopoly on the industry.  It would be like passing a bill mandating that everyone buy Mobil gasoline.  It's just not fair, moral, or ethical.  It's down right greedy and plain wrong.  
   Again, I appreciate your time and urge you to get on any and all senators in your party to kill this terrible bill.

Best regards and thanks,
My name and address


forget the letter and make phone calls...
6/15/2010 11:05:29 AM EDT
[#36]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Looks like the bill was laid aside.

How does this affect it?


that means it can come up for a vote on another day... we need to be relentless with our calls to the senators.. be polite and make as many calls as you can...


So is there no possibility of it coming up for a vote again today then?
6/15/2010 11:15:16 AM EDT
[#37]



Quoted:



Quoted:

Looks like the bill was laid aside.



How does this affect it?




that means it can come up for a vote on another day... we need to be relentless with our calls to the senators.. be polite and make as many calls as you can...


+1 Looks like they don't have the votes they need to pass it at the moment. You need to keep in mind the NY Legislature doesn't  operate like other state legislatures do. Almost everything in NY is done behind closed doors by the majority party conference/leaders without benefit of public hearings, fact finding,  input from industry sources, the general public or meaningful floor debate.