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1/29/2008 8:18:17 PM EDT
I picked up my first transfer today.  I brought cash for the $35 fee, and some money for ammo.  Little did I know, that it'd be rung up as $1000(cost of firearm) + $35 + tax - $1000.  Is that standard practice?
1/29/2008 8:50:43 PM EDT
[#1]
You've run into the classic case of a money-grubbing, lying, cheating motherfucker of an FFL.

The price you paid to someone else for the firearm has absolutely no bearing on your transaction with him, and you can bet your ass that the sales tax money he's attempting to illegally collect from you would never make it to Albany.

He did not make a $1000 sale to you, therefore he is not authorized to collect the sales tax on that amount.

On the other hand, you as a law-abiding taxpayer should declare that amount as use tax on out-of-state purchases and feed the Evil Eliot and Randy Andy Show in Albany. Or not.

Stand up for yourself or give this guy a financial blowjob.  Your choice.
Then find a different FFL for your next transfer.
1/29/2008 9:17:47 PM EDT
[#2]
fuck him get a lawer you just got the shaft big time,you got it big time in the butt,

please see a lawer
1/30/2008 12:14:31 AM EDT
[#3]
Who was it that fleeced you?
1/30/2008 4:00:38 AM EDT
[#4]

get a lawer you just got the shaft big time

A lawyer?  Really?  So, you want him to spend hundreds of dollars for legal counsel for overpaying $70?
1/30/2008 4:12:34 AM EDT
[#5]

Quoted:
Who was it that fleeced you?


+1. Out the thief! The FFL is only authorized to collect sales tax on the transfer fee and the cost of the trigger lock (if one was not shipped with the rifle).
1/30/2008 6:12:13 AM EDT
[#6]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Who was it that fleeced you?


+1. Out the thief! The FFL is only authorized to collect sales tax on the transfer fee and the cost of the trigger lock (if one was not shipped with the rifle).

++1 Out the bastage, Did he give you a real Store reciept, or something scratched out on a waitresses note pad?  
1/30/2008 11:20:26 AM EDT
[#7]
do tell us who it is, please, though I have a hunch who it may be. email me offlist if you like. I have a great guy to recommend, depending on where you are in NY.
Mike
1/30/2008 12:11:55 PM EDT
[#8]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Who was it that fleeced you?


+1. Out the thief! The FFL is only authorized to collect sales tax on the transfer fee and the cost of the trigger lock (if one was not shipped with the rifle).


+1..........He robbed you.

Tell us, pleeeeeeeeze
1/30/2008 12:16:58 PM EDT
[#9]
Agreed we wanna know who fucked you. So we spread the word not to use him
1/30/2008 1:35:42 PM EDT
[#10]
Don't hold back on the name we need a good hometown fire mission

btw:  You got hosed
1/30/2008 3:32:38 PM EDT
[#11]
We have to know who he is!

Hints?

Pictures taken from his front door looking across the street would help us guess too.

Out the bastard!  We will no longer use him.

Bill
1/30/2008 3:36:18 PM EDT
[#12]
I sense that the HT forum is sharpening up their pitchforks and lighting the torches!

I do love a good mob scene!

+1 on the outing of the cheat
1/30/2008 4:09:19 PM EDT
[#13]
If you want you can IM me and I'll carry the ball.
1/30/2008 6:31:54 PM EDT
[#14]

Quoted:
If you want you can IM me and I'll carry the ball.


OH I'd love to see that ball being served!  
1/31/2008 1:38:38 AM EDT
[#15]

Quoted:
If you want you can IM me and I'll carry the ball.


You sir are a credit to your profession - we will miss you greatly when you retire
2/1/2008 8:17:31 AM EDT
[#16]
on pins and needles to find out "who done it"...
2/1/2008 8:49:44 AM EDT
[#17]
No response from OP.
2/1/2008 8:59:39 AM EDT
[#18]
I dont even live in NY or too close to it (south jersey) but, i want to know who it is just to see everyone else's reaction

Come on OP, it's your duty to reveal this shady FFL, if only to save a fellow arfcom member from getting screwed as you did!
2/1/2008 10:01:23 AM EDT
[#19]
I've got one more transfer to complete...couldn't pick it up when I picked this one up because the invoice wasn't a proper one.  Probably pick it up on my way up to tomorrow's Middletown show.  I'm sure they lurk around the boards as they have a nice stash of EBRs and AKs and such...I'd hate for them to hold my lower hostage  Now it's time to find a new FFL.

2/1/2008 10:56:33 AM EDT
[#20]
OK now we know who it is

They have been known to pull shady crap before
2/1/2008 11:46:08 AM EDT
[#21]

Quoted:
OK now we know who it is

They have been known to pull shady crap before


Well???
2/1/2008 12:19:25 PM EDT
[#22]

Quoted:
OK now we know who it is

They have been known to pull shady crap before

It's a shame really...they have a nice shop, great inventory and they are all around nice people.  
2/1/2008 12:55:48 PM EDT
[#23]

Quoted:

Quoted:
OK now we know who it is

They have been known to pull shady crap before


Well???


The OP said he preferred not to name them until he picks up his lower tomorrow from the thieving bastards.  I will respect his wishes but have a strong suspicion who he is dealing with.
2/10/2008 9:42:59 PM EDT
[#24]
Forgot to come back to this thread.

The dealer is Collector Rifle & Ammo.
2/11/2008 1:29:57 AM EDT
[#25]

Quoted:
Forgot to come back to this thread.

The dealer is Collector Rifle & Ammo.



What a big f...ing surprise! Ohhh, I am so shocked!


2/11/2008 1:43:43 AM EDT
[#26]
I had a feeling that Charlie Red was the theif culprit.  You need a new FFL.  My FFL charges $25 per 4473.
2/11/2008 2:00:03 AM EDT
[#27]
I had that one figured out

This is my shocked face
2/11/2008 2:29:24 AM EDT
[#28]
Where is this guy and does he need a contact?
2/11/2008 3:43:33 AM EDT
[#29]

Quoted:
Where is this guy and does he need a contact?


IM sent
2/11/2008 5:14:40 AM EDT
[#30]

Quoted:
I had a feeling that Charlie Red was the theif culprit.  You need a new FFL.  My FFL charges $25 per 4473.


The last time I was there they "mistakenly" tacked on the 3% CC charge when I paid cash for the item. When I pointed it out they recalculated the cash price and  then shorted me $10 on my change. At the time I assumed it was just a mistake but I'm now inclined to believe it was done purposely. I don't have much of a choice in gun stores so I'll continue to go there and just make sure they calculate the sale correctly and give the correct change.

2/11/2008 5:57:27 AM EDT
[#31]

Quoted:
Forgot to come back to this thread.

The dealer is Collector Rifle & Ammo.


Someone should drop a dime on this thief to the Sales Tax Bureau in Albany.
He's collecting sales tax on sales he didn't make.
Makes one wonder whether his remittances are in 100.00% compliance with his collections.

A high colonic sales tax audit is well deserved by this thief.