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12/8/2007 6:01:16 AM EDT
When is a weapon a firearm?

When is a gun a weapon?

When is a cucumber a pickle? I put that in to spice things up!
12/8/2007 6:10:43 AM EDT
[#1]

Quoted:
When is a weapon a firearm?

When is a gun a weapon?

When is a cucumber a pickle? I put that in to spice things up!


Depends if you're the prosicution or defence.  
12/8/2007 6:25:12 AM EDT
[#2]
In legal terms?

IMO

A firearm is always a weapon.
A weapon could be a firearm.
A Dog could be a weapon.




ETA: Oh!!  A cucumber is a pickle when juice is added.
12/8/2007 6:43:07 AM EDT
[#3]
S 265.00 Definitions.
 As used in this article and in article four hundred, the following
terms shall mean and include:
 1. "Machine-gun" means a weapon of any description, irrespective of
size, by whatever name known, loaded or unloaded, from which a number of
shots or bullets may be rapidly or automatically discharged from a
magazine with one continuous pull of the trigger and includes a
sub-machine gun.
 2. "Firearm silencer" means any instrument, attachment, weapon or
appliance for causing the firing of any gun, revolver, pistol or other
firearms to be silent, or intended to lessen or muffle the noise of the
firing of any gun, revolver, pistol or other firearms.
 3. "Firearm" means (a) any pistol or revolver; or (b) a shotgun having
one or more barrels less than eighteen inches in length; or (c) a rifle
having one or more barrels less than sixteen inches in length; or (d)
any weapon made from a shotgun or rifle whether by alteration,
modification, or otherwise if such weapon as altered, modified, or
otherwise has an overall length of less than twenty-six inches; or (e)
an assault weapon. For the purpose of this subdivision the length of the
barrel on a shotgun or rifle shall be determined by measuring the
distance between the muzzle and the face of the bolt, breech, or
breechlock when closed and when the shotgun or rifle is cocked; the
overall length of a weapon made from a shotgun or rifle is the distance
between the extreme ends of the weapon measured along a line parallel to
the center line of the bore. Firearm does not include an antique
firearm.  
 4. "Switchblade knife" means any knife which has a blade which opens
automatically by hand pressure applied to a button, spring or other
device in the handle of the knife.
 5. "Gravity knife" means any knife which has a blade which is released
from the handle or sheath thereof by the force of gravity or the
application of centrifugal force which, when released, is locked in
place by means of a button, spring, lever or other device.
 5-a. "Pilum ballistic knife" means any knife which has a blade which
can be projected from the handle by hand pressure applied to a button,
lever, spring or other device in the handle of the knife.
 5-b. "Metal knuckle knife" means a weapon that, when closed, cannot
function as a set of metal knuckles, nor as a knife and when open, can
function as both a set of metal knuckles as well as a knife.
 6. "Dispose of" means to dispose of, give, give away, lease-loan, keep
for sale, offer, offer for sale, sell, transfer and otherwise dispose
of.
 7. "Deface" means to remove, deface, cover, alter or destroy the
manufacturer`s serial number or any other distinguishing number or
identification mark.
 8. "Gunsmith" means any person, firm, partnership, corporation or
company who engages in the business of repairing, altering, assembling,
manufacturing, cleaning, polishing, engraving or trueing, or who
performs any mechanical operation on, any firearm, large capacity
ammunition feeding device or machine-gun.
 9. "Dealer in firearms" means any person, firm, partnership,
corporation or company who engages in the business of purchasing,
selling, keeping for sale, loaning, leasing, or in any manner disposing
of, any assault weapon, large capacity ammunition feeding device, pistol
or revolver.
 10. "Licensing officer" means in the city of New York the police
commissioner of that city; in the county of Nassau the commissioner of
police of that county; in the county of Suffolk the sheriff of that
county except in the towns of Babylon, Brookhaven, Huntington, Islip and
Smithtown, the commissioner of police of that county; for the purposes
of section 400.01 of this chapter the superintendent of state police;
and elsewhere in the state a judge or justice of a court of record
having his office in the county of issuance.
 11. "Rifle" means a weapon designed or redesigned, made or remade, and
intended to be fired from the shoulder and designed or redesigned and
made or remade to use the energy of the explosive in a fixed metallic
cartridge to fire only a single projectile through a rifled bore for
each single pull of the trigger.
 12. "Shotgun" means a weapon designed or redesigned, made or remade,
and intended to be fired from the shoulder and designed or redesigned
and made or remade to use the energy of the explosive in a fixed shotgun
shell to fire through a smooth bore either a number of ball shot or a
single projectile for each single pull of the trigger.
 13. "Cane Sword" means a cane or swagger stick having concealed within
it a blade that may be used as a sword or stilletto.
 * 14. "Antique firearm" means:
 Any unloaded muzzle loading pistol or revolver with a matchlock,
flintlock, percussion cap, or similar type of ignition system, or a
pistol or revolver which uses fixed cartridges which are no longer
available in the ordinary channels of commercial trade.
 * NB There are 2 sb 14`s
 * 14. "Chuka stick" means any device designed primarily as a weapon,
consisting of two or more lengths of a rigid material joined together by
a thong, rope or chain in such a manner as to allow free movement of a
portion of the device while held in the hand and capable of being
rotated in such a manner as to inflict serious injury upon a person by
striking or choking. These devices are also known as nunchakus and
centrifugal force sticks.
 * NB There are 2 sb 14`s
 15. "Loaded firearm" means any firearm loaded with ammunition or any
firearm which is possessed by one who, at the same time, possesses a
quantity of ammunition which may be used to discharge such firearm.
 15-a. "Electronic dart gun" means any device designed primarily as a
weapon, the purpose of which is to momentarily stun, knock out or
paralyze a person by passing an electrical shock to such person by means
of a dart or projectile.
 15-b. "Kung Fu star" means a disc-like object with sharpened points on
the circumference thereof and is designed for use primarily as a weapon
to be thrown.
 15-c. "Electronic stun gun" means any device designed primarily as a
weapon, the purpose of which is to stun, cause mental disorientation,
knock out or paralyze a person by passing a high voltage electrical
shock to such person.
 16. "Certified not suitable to possess a self-defense spray device, a
rifle or shotgun" means that the director or physician in charge of any
hospital or institution for mental illness, public or private, has
certified to the superintendent of state police or to any organized
police department of a county, city, town or village of this state, that
a person who has been judicially adjudicated incompetent, or who has
been confined to such institution for mental illness pursuant to
judicial authority, is not suitable to possess a self-defense spray
device, as defined in section 265.20 of this article, or a rifle or
shotgun.
 17. "Serious offense" means (a) any of the following offenses defined
in the former penal law as in force and effect immediately prior to
September first, nineteen hundred sixty-seven: illegally using, carrying
or possessing a pistol or other dangerous weapon; making or possessing
burglar`s instruments; buying or receiving stolen property; unlawful
entry of a building; aiding escape from prison; that kind of disorderly
conduct defined in subdivisions six and eight of section seven hundred
twenty-two of such former penal law; violations of sections four hundred
eighty-three, four hundred eighty-three-b, four hundred eighty-four-h
and article one hundred six of such former penal law; that kind of
sodomy or rape which was designated as a misdemeanor; violation of
section seventeen hundred forty-seven-d and seventeen hundred
forty-seven-e of such former penal law; any violation of any provision
of article thirty-three of the public health law relating to narcotic
drugs which was defined as a misdemeanor by section seventeen hundred
fifty-one-a of such former penal law, and any violation of any provision
of article thirty-three-A of the public health law relating to
depressant and stimulant drugs which was defined as a misdemeanor by
section seventeen hundred forty-seven-b of such former penal law.
 * (b) any of the following offenses defined in the penal law:
illegally using, carrying or possessing a pistol or other dangerous
weapon; possession of burglar`s tools; criminal possession of stolen
property in the third degree; escape in the third degree; jostling;
fraudulent accosting; that kind of loitering defined in subdivision
three of section 240.35; endangering the welfare of a child; the
offenses defined in article two hundred thirty-five; issuing abortional
articles; permitting prostitution; promoting prostitution in the third
degree; stalking in the fourth degree; stalking in the third degree; the
offenses defined in article one hundred thirty; the offenses defined in
article two hundred twenty.
 * NB There are 2 par. b`s
 * (b) any of the following offenses defined in the penal law:
illegally using, carrying or possessing a pistol or other dangerous
weapon; possession of burglar`s tools; criminal possession of stolen
property in the third degree; escape in the third degree; jostling;
fraudulent accosting; that kind of loitering defined in subdivision
three of section 240.35; endangering the welfare of a child; the
offenses defined in article two hundred thirty-five; issuing abortional
articles; permitting prostitution; promoting prostitution in the third
degree; stalking in the third degree; stalking in the fourth degree; the
offenses defined in article one hundred thirty; the offenses defined in
article two hundred twenty.
 * NB There are 2 par. b`s
 18. "Armor piercing ammunition" means any ammunition capable of being
used in pistols or revolvers containing a projectile or projectile core,
or a projectile or projectile core for use in such ammunition, that is
constructed entirely (excluding the presence of traces of other
substances) from one or a combination of any of the following: tungsten
alloys, steel, iron, brass, bronze, beryllium copper, or uranium.
 19. "Duly authorized instructor" means (a) a duly commissioned officer
of the United States army, navy, marine corps or coast guard, or of the
national guard of the state of New York; or (b) a duly qualified adult
citizen of the United States who has been granted a certificate as an
instructor in small arms practice issued by the United States army, navy
or marine corps, or by the adjutant general of this state, or by the
national rifle association of America, a not-for-profit corporation duly
organized under the laws of this state; or (c) by a person duly
qualified and designated by the department of environmental conservation
under paragraph d of subdivision six of section 11-0713 of the
environmental conservation law as its agent in the giving of instruction
and the making of certifications of qualification in responsible hunting
practices.
 20. "Disguised gun" means any weapon or device capable of being
concealed on the person from which a shot can be discharged through the
energy of an explosive and is designed and intended to appear to be
something other than a gun.
 21. "Semiautomatic" means any repeating rifle, shotgun or pistol,
regardless of barrel or overall length, which utilizes a portion of the
energy of a firing cartridge or shell to extract the fired cartridge
case or spent shell and chamber the next round, and which requires a
separate pull of the trigger to fire each cartridge or shell.
 22. "Assault weapon" means (a) a semiautomatic rifle that has an
ability to accept a detachable magazine and has at least two of the
following characteristics:
 (i) a folding or telescoping stock;
 (ii) a pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of
the weapon;
 (iii) a bayonet mount;
 (iv) a flash suppressor or threaded barrel designed to accommodate a
flash suppressor;
 (v) a grenade launcher; or
 (b) a semiautomatic shotgun that has at least two of the following
characteristics:
 (i) a folding or telescoping stock;
 (ii) a pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of
the weapon;
 (iii) a fixed magazine capacity in excess of five rounds;
 (iv) an ability to accept a detachable magazine; or
 (c) a semiautomatic pistol that has an ability to accept a detachable
magazine and has at least two of the following characteristics:
 (i) an ammunition magazine that attaches to the pistol outside of the
pistol grip;
 (ii) a threaded barrel capable of accepting a barrel extender, flash
suppressor, forward handgrip, or silencer;
 (iii) a shroud that is attached to, or partially or completely
encircles, the barrel and that permits the shooter to hold the firearm
with the nontrigger hand without being burned;
 (iv) a manufactured weight of fifty ounces or more when the pistol is
unloaded;
 (v) a semiautomatic version of an automatic rifle, shotgun or firearm;
or
 (d) any of the weapons, or functioning frames or receivers of such
weapons, or copies or duplicates of such weapons, in any caliber, known
as:
 (i) Norinco, Mitchell, and Poly Technologies Avtomat Kalashnikovs (all
models);
 (ii) Action Arms Israeli Military Industries UZI and Galil;
 (iii) Beretta Ar70 (SC-70);
 (iv) Colt AR-15;
 (v) Fabrique National FN/FAL, FN/LAR, and FNC;
 (vi) SWD M-10, M-11, M-11/9, and M-12;
 (vii) Steyr AUG;
 (viii) INTRATEC TEC-9, TEC-DC9 and TEC-22; and
 (ix) revolving cylinder shotguns, such as (or similar to) the Street
Sweeper and Striker 12;
 (e) provided, however, that such term does not include: (i) any rifle,
shotgun or pistol that (A) is manually operated by bolt, pump, lever or
slide action; (B) has been rendered permanently inoperable; or (C) is an
antique firearm as defined in 18 U.S.C. 921(a)(16);
 (ii) a semiautomatic rifle that cannot accept a detachable magazine
that holds more than five rounds of ammunition;
 (iii) a semiautomatic shotgun that cannot hold more than five rounds
of ammunition in a fixed or detachable magazine;
 (iv) a rifle, shotgun or pistol, or a replica or a duplicate thereof,
specified in Appendix A to section 922 of 18 U.S.C. as such weapon was
manufactured on October first, nineteen hundred ninety-three. The mere
fact that a weapon is not listed in Appendix A shall not be construed to
mean that such weapon is an assault weapon; or
 (v) a semiautomatic rifle, a semiautomatic shotgun or a semiautomatic
pistol or any of the weapons defined in paragraph (d) of this
subdivision lawfully possessed prior to September fourteenth, nineteen
hundred ninety-four.
 23. "Large capacity ammunition feeding device" means a magazine, belt,
drum, feed strip, or similar device, manufactured after September
thirteenth, nineteen hundred ninety-four, that has a capacity of, or
that can be readily restored or converted to accept, more than ten
rounds of ammunition; provided, however, that such term does not include
an attached tubular device designed to accept, and capable of operating
only with, .22 caliber rimfire ammunition.
12/8/2007 7:25:09 AM EDT
[#4]
None of my firearms are weapons*.
As intimated objects they aren't imbued with such a purpose.
God willing I will never forced to make them weapons.
*(even the ones that in the past have been used in combat)
12/8/2007 9:05:57 AM EDT
[#5]

* 14. "Chuka stick" means any device designed primarily as a weapon,
consisting of two or more lengths of a rigid material joined together by
a thong,


Based on that alone every man should own them. Of course explaining that to your wife or G/F is something else.