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Posted: 2/8/2006 5:27:43 PM EDT
I'm wondering where I might find out the legality of carrying an unloaded shotgun on my boat in the Westchester/Rockland/Putnam/Orange county waters of the Hudson River. I know a boat can be considered a residence (in which case, it is like having one in my home, right?), but to be, I believe it has to have a galley, and while I have a cabin, I don't have a galley.

Anyone know?

Thanks
Link Posted: 2/8/2006 7:37:54 PM EDT
Tag, I'd love to know if anyone has solid information about this
Link Posted: 2/9/2006 6:07:02 AM EDT
Hunting license? Duck stamp?
(Where and when?)
Link Posted: 2/9/2006 6:35:03 AM EDT
A rifle/shotgun must be unloaded in both chamber and magazine if you are transporting them in or upon a MV or motorboat in NYS .

ENV - Environmental Conservation
Title 9 - HUNTING

§ 11-0931. Prohibitions on the use and possession of firearms.

2. No firearm except a pistol or revolver shall be carried or
possessed in or on a motor vehicle unless it is unloaded in both the
chamber and the magazine, except that a loaded firearm which may be
legally used for taking migratory game birds may be carried or possessed
in a motorboat while being legally used in hunting migratory game birds,
and no person except a law enforcement officer in the performance of his
official duties shall, while in or on a motor vehicle, use a jacklight,
spotlight or other artificial light upon lands inhabited by deer if he
is in possession or is accompanied by a person who is in possession, at
the time of such use, of a longbow, crossbow or a firearm of any kind
except a pistol or revolver, unless such longbow is unstrung or such
firearm is taken down or securely fastened in a case or locked in the
trunk of the vehicle. For purposes of this subdivision, motor vehicle
shall mean every vehicle or other device operated by any power other
than muscle power, and which shall include but not be limited to
automobiles, trucks, motorcycles, tractors, trailers and motorboats,
snowmobiles and snowtravelers, whether operated on or off public
highways. Notwithstanding the provisions of this subdivision, the
department may issue a permit to any person who is non-ambulatory,
except with the use of a mechanized aid, to possess a loaded firearm in
or on a motor vehicle as defined in this section, subject to such
restrictions as the department may deem necessary in the interest of
public safety, and for a fee of five dollars. Nothing in this section
permits the possession of a pistol or a revolver contrary to the penal
law.
Link Posted: 2/9/2006 8:40:49 AM EDT
Interesting, thanks RKBar15. So it seems I would be within my legal rights to possess an unloaded shotgun on my boat. Now here is the interesting part:

"and no person except a law enforcement officer in the performance of his
official duties shall, while in or on a motor vehicle, use a jacklight,
spotlight or other artificial light upon lands inhabited by deer if he
is in possession or is accompanied by a person who is in possession, at
the time of such use, of a longbow, crossbow or a firearm of any kind"

So if I shine my spotlight into the trees along Croton Point Park, from 50 yards off shore, while I possess a shotgun on board, I am in violation? Or does a boat not count as a motor vehicle, considering the term "motorboat" is specifically mentioned?

And I guess, just to be extra safe, a duck hunting permit would be in order.

(is it wabbit season, or duck season???)
Link Posted: 2/9/2006 8:44:56 AM EDT
You guys are starting to make the baby Jesus cry.
Link Posted: 2/9/2006 8:45:18 AM EDT
Actually, the hunting permit will do no good. Seasons are mostly in Nov-Dec, and I don't own an icebreaker...
Link Posted: 2/9/2006 8:48:36 AM EDT

Originally Posted By rkbar15:
You guys are starting to make the baby Jesus cry.



Don't worry, I like ducks, and have no intention of killing any. (I feed them all summer) I just want to be prepared for the Pirates of the Hudson. Or maybe toss a clay pidgeon (which I am sure is a no-no) so that's out...
Link Posted: 2/9/2006 10:41:40 AM EDT

Originally Posted By rkbar15:
You guys are starting to make the baby Jesus cry.



That made me laugh out loud.
Link Posted: 2/9/2006 11:39:31 AM EDT
On some days you guys make the baby Jesus laugh though.
Link Posted: 2/9/2006 5:56:28 PM EDT
On a related note, a couple of decades ago, guys used to shoot clays over the marshes off Nassau county in the summers, getting there by boat. Had hunting licenses but no duck stamps. Guess that was illegal...
Link Posted: 2/10/2006 6:15:06 AM EDT
Somewhat OT but I've shot clays at an undisclosed location on the South Shore that's a boat marina.
Link Posted: 2/10/2006 9:13:56 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Phil_A_Steen:
Somewhat OT but I've shot clays at an undisclosed location on the South Shore that's a boat marina.



Did you take down any seagulls?

I once caught a seagull who dive bombed my bait while fishing for flounder in Peconic Bay.
Link Posted: 2/10/2006 1:36:46 PM EDT
RKbar15, if you like to fish, let's go one summer weekend and go for some striped bass in Shinnecock Bay off my boat, then follow up with some shooting at the Pine Barrens range.
Link Posted: 2/10/2006 4:20:55 PM EDT

Originally Posted By mchad:
Interesting, thanks RKBar15. So it seems I would be within my legal rights to possess an unloaded shotgun on my boat. Now here is the interesting part:

"and no person except a law enforcement officer in the performance of his
official duties shall, while in or on a motor vehicle, use a jacklight,
spotlight or other artificial light upon lands inhabited by deer if he
is in possession or is accompanied by a person who is in possession, at
the time of such use, of a longbow, crossbow or a firearm of any kind"

So if I shine my spotlight into the trees along Croton Point Park, from 50 yards off shore, while I possess a shotgun on board, I am in violation? Or does a boat not count as a motor vehicle, considering the term "motorboat" is specifically mentioned?

And I guess, just to be extra safe, a duck hunting permit would be in order.

(is it wabbit season, or duck season???)

Link Posted: 2/18/2006 7:15:01 AM EDT

Originally Posted By mchad:
Interesting, thanks RKBar15. So it seems I would be within my legal rights to possess an unloaded shotgun on my boat. Now here is the interesting part:

"and no person except a law enforcement officer in the performance of his
official duties shall, while in or on a motor vehicle, use a jacklight,
spotlight or other artificial light upon lands inhabited by deer if he
is in possession or is accompanied by a person who is in possession, at
the time of such use, of a longbow, crossbow or a firearm of any kind"

So if I shine my spotlight into the trees along Croton Point Park, from 50 yards off shore, while I possess a shotgun on board, I am in violation? Or does a boat not count as a motor vehicle, considering the term "motorboat" is specifically mentioned?

And I guess, just to be extra safe, a duck hunting permit would be in order.

(is it wabbit season, or duck season???)



Unloaded you're good to go, if you shine a light on Croton OTH put your gun in a case and you're good to go. As it pertains to the ECL just about everything is a motor vehicle, cars, tractors, airplanes, boats, snowmobiles, atvs, motorcycles, mopeds, powered bicycles.
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