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11/3/2004 8:04:51 AM EDT
Guys, I figured this is the best place to ask this question. I am curious how this guy keeps getting re-elected. Is there something else he offeres that offsets his antigun stance? Is it a NYC thing?
11/3/2004 8:13:05 AM EDT
[#1]
The Republican challenger had almost no budget. I'm not too knowledgeable about politics beyond my county/area but I don't think there was a very serious attempt to beat him. Hillary got elected sort of the same way. I haven't checked my county yet, Schumer might have gotten stomped here, most Democrats do, but when we lost a local factory (yet another) despite our "Republican" state representatives and govenor it was evil Chuckie that found  new outfit to come in and at least do some production at the facility.

NY is something like 5-3 Democrat.

I heard part of one of the debates Chuckie was in and he certainly made no mention of gun control when he gave his opening speach.
11/3/2004 8:26:08 AM EDT
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a concerted effort needs to be made to oust him
11/3/2004 9:18:47 AM EDT
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a concerted effort needs to be made to oust him



+1

Rumor has it he is eying the NY governor's office next. Oh joy.

He is one of the most liberal POS to ever draw a breath.
11/3/2004 11:29:19 AM EDT
[#4]
Yep, we are stuck with Chuckie.
But the one good thing is that Hillary will run in 4 years and lose, and she and the slimer can move back to Arkansas... oh please, make it so, make it so...
11/3/2004 12:14:21 PM EDT
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Yep, we are stuck with Chuckie.
But the one good thing is that Hillary will run in 4 years and lose, and she and the slimer can move back to Arkansas... oh please, make it so, make it so...


First she has to run again in 2006 for Senator.  I keep trying to name some Republican with statewide prominence in New York, other than Giuliani and Pataki, who would be up to the task and I cannot name one.  Bruno is too polarizing and the Nassau County Republican machine, which produced quite a few, is all but defunct now.  
11/3/2004 12:19:02 PM EDT
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My dad sent the NYGOP a bill this year instead of a check for what they did to mills (nothing, that is). And pop's not even an active political guy or anything - he was just so floored by the complete ant total lack of support for a great american.  Me and him voted conservative for senate - we were all of  ogrady's 2 votes!

But how about NY going almost half for bush!  Man if we could only lose the city, we'd be a great state.
11/3/2004 2:25:03 PM EDT
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In an interview with UpChuck even he was surprised by the extent of his popularity throughout NYS.  

Maybe he'll skip governor and go straight to President Schumer!  
11/3/2004 2:33:39 PM EDT
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the rnc did nothing to support the challenger. the Conservative Party candidate put on a stronger campaign with less of a chance of winning
11/3/2004 3:19:54 PM EDT
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My dad sent the NYGOP a bill this year instead of a check for what they did to mills (nothing, that is). And pop's not even an active political guy or anything - he was just so floored by the complete ant total lack of support for a great american.  Me and him voted conservative for senate - we were all of  ogrady's 2 votes!

But how about NY going almost half for bush!  Man if we could only lose the city, we'd be a great state.



We would be a poor state without the tax revenue from NYC.  More money comes into Albany's coffers from NYC than Albany sends down to NYC.
11/3/2004 3:28:48 PM EDT
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More money comes into Albany's coffers from NYC than Albany sends down to NYC.



Yeah, well I'd sure like to know WTF they do with it after that because they sure aren't using it to pay for their mandated services they force local communities and counties to provide.
11/3/2004 3:34:53 PM EDT
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We would be a poor state without the tax revenue from NYC.  More money comes into Albany's coffers from NYC than Albany sends down to NYC.



Maybe or maybe not. NYC is also responsible for draining the vast majority of state dollars for welfare, drug treatment programs, social programs, and tons of other programs for the welfare slugs. Perhaps that might offset the potential tax loss....
11/3/2004 3:45:24 PM EDT
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Guys, I figured this is the best place to ask this question. I am curious how this guy keeps getting re-elected. Is there something else he offeres that offsets his antigun stance? Is it a NYC thing?



Yes, it is a NYC thing.  That is his primary base of support, vote wise.  Chuckie is also a media hound.  He never wastes a moment to get in front of a TV camera, so he is well known.
11/3/2004 4:19:07 PM EDT
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In 1998's landslide victory against D'Amato UpChuck received more votes from outside of NYC then from within NYC.  The republican conservative borough of Richmond (Staten Island) in NYC actually voted for D'Amato.  

The counties of Albany, Erie, Monroe, Nassau, Niagara, Rensselaer, Rockland, Schenectady, Suffolk, Sullivan, Tompkins, Ulster, and Westchester all voted for Schumer in 1998.  

The stats aren't out yet for 2004 but it is safe to say that he did even better outside of NYC in this election.


11/4/2004 12:42:13 AM EDT
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In 1998's landslide victory against D'Amato UpChuck received more votes from outside of NYC then from within NYC.  The republican conservative borough of Richmond (Staten Island) in NYC actually voted for D'Amato.  

The counties of Albany, Erie, Monroe, Nassau, Niagara, Rensselaer, Rockland, Schenectady, Suffolk, Sullivan, Tompkins, Ulster, and Westchester all voted for Schumer in 1998.  

The stats aren't out yet for 2004 but it is safe to say that he did even better outside of NYC in this election.






<sigh> Why do I have to be reminded of this sort of thing so early in the am?
11/4/2004 3:34:28 AM EDT
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Yes, it is a NYC thing.  That is his primary base of support, vote wise.  Chuckie is also a media hound.  He never wastes a moment to get in front of a TV camera, so he is well known.


Years ago I heard there is a saying on the hill that "the shortest distance in Washington is between Charles Schumer and a camera".

BTW, I voted for the Libertarian Senate candidate.

11/4/2004 3:41:42 AM EDT
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a concerted effort needs to be made to oust him



A good place to bury Rudy Guliani...

Senators almost NEVER become President, you see (think Kerry), and the guy was interested in the job before 9/11...

Off to the Senate with you... And don't come back...
11/4/2004 4:23:30 AM EDT
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<sigh> Why do I have to be reminded of this sort of thing so early in the am?



This will cheer you up.

Incomplete results fir WC:

GEORGE BUSH/DICK CHENEY  Totals 140,282 41%

JOHN KERRY/JOHN EDWARDS  Totals 199,649 58%


CHARLES SCHUMER          Totals           223,236        70%

REP HOWARD MILLS     Totals            81,850         26%

CON MARILYN O"GRADY  Totals    10,215  3%
11/4/2004 10:01:07 AM EDT
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the truth is the republican party has considered ny a lost cause for years and doesnt even try here. when we put up a candidate the ntional organization is to busy fighting for important states like south dakota.

there is sme truth to the lost cause theory since it takes a miracle to win dog catcher without being a democrat in nyc. the rest of the state i mired in joblessness and votes for the party that pffers better benefits mostly. that is why hillary and chuck are our senators.

as long a albany knows they can pll a sh## load of money out of downstate they have no incentive to reform their acts.

before you tell me abot how a republican is in the govs mansion and the mayor of ny, i will remind that we have the distinction of being the state with republicans more liberal than midwestern democrats.
11/4/2004 4:21:11 PM EDT
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<sigh> Why do I have to be reminded of this sort of thing so early in the am?



In case you missed it two County and five Supreme Court judgeships went to democRATS.  

Democrats break GOP's lock on judgeships

By JONATHAN BANDLER
THE JOURNAL NEWS
(Original publication: November 4, 2004)

The pattern seemed familiar Tuesday in the 9th Judicial District. In the race for six seats on the state Supreme Court, Republicans held large leads in Putnam, Orange and Dutchess counties. The Democrats would carry Westchester, and hold their own in Rockland, but needed a huge turnout to offset the northern counties.

They got it, racking up larger-than-ever numbers and nearly sweeping all six seats after not winning a single state judgeship in eight years. Incumbent Republican Howard Miller from Rockland County seemed to hold back a late rally by Mahopac lawyer Kevin Griffin to get re-elected to a second 14-year term and salvage one seat for the GOP, according to unofficial results that were still missing vote totals from about 75 Westchester election districts.