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1/7/2016 4:47:41 PM EDT
These are my thoughts on ATF41F



The BATFE's new rule will drastically affect the way that you use your Texas NFA Trust to purchase Silencers, SBRs and other Title III firearms.

I talk about the new Rule, How they will affect the use of your trust to purchase, own and Manage your Silencer and NFA collection and how we can defeat it!

Here is a link to the entire 248 page proposed final rule.  Enjoy.

ATF41F In a Nut Shell:
1.  It is Business as Usual for 180 days.  Then things change.
2.  Fingerprints and Photographs are now required for all responsible persons.
3.  Trustees:  most trustees are responsible persons
4.  It may be possible to create a trustee who has limited powers of possession and will not be a responsible person.
5.  There is no requirement for new responsible persons to submit fingerprints and photographs to the BATFE until a new form 1 or form 4 is submitted.  
6.  The Responsible Persons on a trust do not have to submit new Fingerprints and Photographs during the two years (24mo) period following the submission of a form 1 or a form 4 for additional filings.  

We need to ask Congress to DEFUND atf41F.  The Congress has defunded previous ATF rules that overstepped their authority.  The Saiga/Chinese Cowboy Action Shotgun Importation ban was the most recent.

Congress has the anility to  Defund ATF41F before it is implemented in July 2015.

DEFUND ATF 41F!  

Congressman John Culbertson
Appropriations Committee

Houston office
Phone: (713) 682-8828
Fax: (713) 680-8070

Washington, dc office
Phone: (202) 225-2571
Fax: (202) 225-4381

After you and all of your friends and family have called and emailed Congressman Culbertson, The should email, Call and fax a request to defund ATF41F to their congressional Representative!

Find Your Representative at:
http://www.house.gov/representatives/find/

The next step is to contact your Senators.  
Find their contact information here:
https://www.opencongress.org/people/zipcodelookup

If you are from Texas, this is the contact information for your Two Senators!


Ted Cruz
Republican

Phone: 202-224-5922

John Cornyn
Republican

Phone: 202-224-2934


Call, Fax and Email your Representative and Senators.
Ask them to make sure that they vote to DEFUND ATF41F.

On the Legal side, Joshua Prince of the Prince Law Firms and the Firearms Industry Consulting Group is mounting a legal challenge to ATF41F.  Please donate to fund this fight that will help ALL of us in the future:  www.FightATF41P.com



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWxEO882144
1/7/2016 5:41:40 PM EDT
[#1]
Thank You for the information.
1/7/2016 7:47:07 PM EDT
[#2]
For an individual, this rule change is a good thing. I understand the inconvenience it may cause for trust holders but as an individual it has always been part of the process.
1/7/2016 9:51:30 PM EDT
[#3]
Thanks SC!

Toggled auto archive off and putting link in global resources.
Sell crazy someplace else, we're all stocked up here!

Hindut Obama

1/7/2016 10:01:30 PM EDT
[#4]
Thanks for posting that, extremely helpful.
"I carry a gun because it is my responsibility alone - not that of the police, nor the government, nor the community - to defend the precious lives that God has entrusted to me."
Will Dougan
1/7/2016 10:28:28 PM EDT
[#5]

 ATF41F:  An attempt from .gov to have name, FPs, and photos associated with each Title 2 item in NFA registry.
 
 DEFUND ATF41F !!!


Our American Dreams--Freedom and the Constitution--are lost day by day..

Adaptability is the key to survival.



1/7/2016 10:48:26 PM EDT
[#6]
This sounds the same as 41p that just passed or am I missing something?
1/7/2016 11:39:24 PM EDT
[#7]
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Originally Posted By rtran:
This sounds the same as 41p that just passed or am I missing something?
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41P was the proposal and 41F is the final ruling.
1/8/2016 12:02:18 AM EDT
[#8]
Fantastic post, thank you
Guns don't kill people; the government does--Dale Gribble
1/8/2016 12:13:11 AM EDT
[#9]
Thanks guys share it with everyone you know and get them to call their senators and congressmen and call congressman culverts in the office. Fax them email them send smoke signals, doesn't matter get the word out to re elected representatives.
1/8/2016 8:10:34 AM EDT
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Would some be affected if they already have items on a trust and have no plans to add any additional items to the trust?

Also considering de-registering the SBR.  Fun toy, but I don;t think I've used it since 2008.

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ETA - I just saw the post further down that answers the question.
1/8/2016 2:15:29 PM EDT
[#11]
Great video thank you for posting it.
Proud member of Team Ranstad

Member of the National Rifle Association and the Texas State Rifle Association
1/8/2016 3:07:11 PM EDT
[#12]
Thanks for taking the time to put the video together.
Tactipug. The ultimate compact firepower!
1/8/2016 3:49:39 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By SC-Texas:
Thanks guys share it with everyone you know and get them to call their senators and congressmen and call congressman culverts in the office. Fax them email them send smoke signals, doesn't matter get the word out to re elected representatives.
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I am trying to get as many people as I can to call but I am finding several that think this is a good thing only because of the lack of a CLEO signature for individual purchase.
1/8/2016 10:16:52 PM EDT
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I am trying to get as many people as I can to call but I am finding several that think this is a good thing only because of the lack of a CLEO signature for individual purchase.
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Originally Posted By sanangelo:
Originally Posted By SC-Texas:
Thanks guys share it with everyone you know and get them to call their senators and congressmen and call congressman culverts in the office. Fax them email them send smoke signals, doesn't matter get the word out to re elected representatives.



I am trying to get as many people as I can to call but I am finding several that think this is a good thing only because of the lack of a CLEO signature for individual purchase.



those the ones that would get Buttsekkzts and afterward think it wasn't all that bad,=
1/8/2016 10:58:58 PM EDT
[#15]
Thanks for the video.