Posted: 8/12/2015 7:08:37 PM EDT
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Are total bullshit! What happened? It's nothing but cheap Chinese garbage being sold for more than online.
I remember going to gun shows and finding good deals, on quality stuff. Now everyone is selling the same Chinese garbage for different prices. I went to the NRG Arena gun show. It was the high caliber gun show, i haven't been to a gun show since 2013. Total waste of time and money. Everyone is selling the same crap, but no one is "selling" anything. Of all the tables there, only 2 puerile were actually trying to sell their stuff. One was a cheap holster, the other was a concealed shoulder holster. I bought one if each, because they were actually trying to sell. I then found another table, with the EXACT same cheap holster, but a different name. They started talking smack saying "nothing made in America is that cheap". It was 2 chunky women that played on their phones and we're dancing with each other. They were not trying to sell their holsters at all. Then you have the handguards. Everyone had the same Chinese shit, for over 100$. All cam be had for less than 75$ online. Same with the scopes, we're all the exact same with different brands names. Explore, sight mark, all the cheap Chinese shit for outrageous prices. Same for all the flash lights. Everyone was sitting down, looking sad and not trying to sell their garbage. Then you had the typical pistol tables loaded with glocks, s&w, etc etc. All the cheap stuff they can buy in bulk. All those were over priced as well. You would think, being 2015, everyone has Internet in the palm of their hands, these vendors would be smarter. Have competitive prices, a sales pitch, doing whatever necessary to sell their stuff. But no. It's sad, where are the good gun shows? With real stuff, not Chinese garbage? End rant. Just had to bitch for a minute. Cost me 31$ just to get in, 2 tickets and parking. Fucking hell. ETA: I bought a holster from Holster King, and one from Kangaroo Holster. They were the only 2 actually trying to sell their stuff. Besides the guy with sausage and cheese. Can't goto a gun show with trying some free sausage and cheese. |
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Are total bullshit! What happened? It's nothing but cheap Chinese garbage being sold for more than online. I remember going to gun shows and finding good deals, on quality stuff. Now everyone is selling the same Chinese garbage for different prices. I went to the NRG Arena gun show. It was the high caliber gun show, i haven't been to a gun show since 2013. Total waste of time and money. Everyone is selling the same crap, but no one is "selling" anything. Of all the tables there, only 2 puerile were actually trying to sell their stuff. One was a cheap holster, the other was a concealed shoulder holster. I bought one if each, because they were actually trying to sell. I then found another table, with the EXACT same cheap holster, but a different name. They started talking smack saying "nothing made in America is that cheap". It was 2 chunky women that played on their phones and we're dancing with each other. They were not trying to sell their holsters at all. Then you have the handguards. Everyone had the same Chinese shit, for over 100$. All cam be had for less than 75$ online. Same with the scopes, we're all the exact same with different brands names. Explore, sight mark, all the cheap Chinese shit for outrageous prices. Same for all the flash lights. Everyone was sitting down, looking sad and not trying to sell their garbage. Then you had the typical pistol tables loaded with glocks, s&w, etc etc. All the cheap stuff they can buy in bulk. All those were over priced as well. You would think, being 2015, everyone has Internet in the palm of their hands, these vendors would be smarter. Have competitive prices, a sales pitch, doing whatever necessary to sell their stuff. But no. It's sad, where are the good gun shows? With real stuff, not Chinese garbage? End rant. Just had to bitch for a minute. Cost me 31$ just to get in, 2 tickets and parking. Fucking hell. ETA: I bought a holster from Holster King, and one from Kangaroo Holster. They were the only 2 actually trying to sell their stuff. Besides the guy with sausage and cheese. Can't goto a gun show with trying some free sausage and cheese. And when people ask the price of quality US made optics, rails etc, their assholes snap shut like someone is trying to penetrate them and scurry off and buy the Chinese shit. Or dealers who are selling the good stuff are tired of being a showroom/sales person for internet only dealers that are selling shit for $5 over cost. They come finger fuck the goods, ask a million questions then scurry off to order it online from someone else. |
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I understand that. That what sucks and is great about the Internet.
I understand these guys got overhead to pay. But the gun show used to be a place to liquidate inventory, move shit that doesn't move on your store. That means you should lower the price. I'm not saying take a major hit on profit, but at least drop it some so it looks like you want to sell it. That my point, there are no vendors with quality stuff. I'm all about supporting local business. I've never seen Primary Arms at a gun show, even though they are here in Houston. Radical firearms, DSG, why aren't these guys at the gun shows? I always looked at a gun show like a flea market, or a swap meet. To me, it makes more sense to drop your prices at a gun show. But, these vendors hire idiots just to man the tables, no one knows shit about the stuff on their table, and there is absolutely no sales pitch going on. It's sad to see the industry going like this. |
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I understand that. That what sucks and is great about the Internet. I understand these guys got overhead to pay. But the gun show used to be a place to liquidate inventory, move shit that doesn't move on your store. That means you should lower the price. I'm not saying take a major hit on profit, but at least drop it some so it looks like you want to sell it. That my point, there are no vendors with quality stuff. I'm all about supporting local business. I've never seen Primary Arms at a gun show, even though they are here in Houston. Radical firearms, DSG, why aren't these guys at the gun shows? I always looked at a gun show like a flea market, or a swap meet. To me, it makes more sense to drop your prices at a gun show. But, these vendors hire idiots just to man the tables, no one knows shit about the stuff on their table, and there is absolutely no sales pitch going on. It's sad to see the industry going like this. Well the High Caliber gun show at NRG is pretty cheesy. I know of one vendor that will be at the George R Brown show this weekend. They carry no chinese junk. Aimpoint, Eotech, Daniel Defense, Magpul, Mega, Spikes, Fortis, Troy...etc. |
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I'm done with gun shows. If i can't save money buying shit there, what's the point? Ammo used to be cheaper too, now they charge more than academy. What the fudge?
Katy Gun Gear was there, i like their shop. They're right down the road, and have good prices. Unfortunately, prices were the same at the gun show as their shop, and they didn't have anything i really wanted/needed. I went looking for a decent handguard. One vendor had the Hogue stuff, but was too high. The high price, plus taxes, was too much. I can get it 30$ cheaper online with free shipping. I mentioned this, and it's like they looked at me as if I'm a felonious raper. Just don't like the vibe anymore. I'm willing to give George R Brown one last shot. Who this vendor you speak of? PM me if you don't want to put it here. I'm looking for some decent optics and a good handguard. No UTG crap. |
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Quoted: Well the High Caliber gun show at NRG is pretty cheesy. I know of one vendor that will be at the George R Brown show this weekend. They carry no chinese junk. Aimpoint, Eotech, Daniel Defense, Magpul, Mega, Spikes, Fortis, Troy...etc. Quoted: Quoted: I understand that. That what sucks and is great about the Internet. I understand these guys got overhead to pay. But the gun show used to be a place to liquidate inventory, move shit that doesn't move on your store. That means you should lower the price. I'm not saying take a major hit on profit, but at least drop it some so it looks like you want to sell it. That my point, there are no vendors with quality stuff. I'm all about supporting local business. I've never seen Primary Arms at a gun show, even though they are here in Houston. Radical firearms, DSG, why aren't these guys at the gun shows? I always looked at a gun show like a flea market, or a swap meet. To me, it makes more sense to drop your prices at a gun show. But, these vendors hire idiots just to man the tables, no one knows shit about the stuff on their table, and there is absolutely no sales pitch going on. It's sad to see the industry going like this. Well the High Caliber gun show at NRG is pretty cheesy. I know of one vendor that will be at the George R Brown show this weekend. They carry no chinese junk. Aimpoint, Eotech, Daniel Defense, Magpul, Mega, Spikes, Fortis, Troy...etc. Sounds like Texas Tactical, all they carry is good, name brand products, no cheap Chinese garbage. ..and they'll be at the GRB show this weekend |
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Quoted: Sounds like Texas Tactical, all they carry is good, name brand products, no cheap Chinese garbage. ..and they'll be at the GRB show this weekend Agreed. But the major issue, even with them, still remains, which is they are not trying to compete with online sellers. So why would someone buy from them? If they made something unique, then yes I can see people buying at a Gun Show, but 99% of vendors sell the same old stuff and nothing stands out and nothing is better than anything I could get online. |
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Agreed. But the major issue, even with them, still remains, which is they are not trying to compete with online sellers. So why would someone buy from them? If they made something unique, then yes I can see people buying at a Gun Show, but 99% of vendors sell the same old stuff and nothing stands out and nothing is better than anything I could get online. Quoted:
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Sounds like Texas Tactical, all they carry is good, name brand products, no cheap Chinese garbage. ..and they'll be at the GRB show this weekend Agreed. But the major issue, even with them, still remains, which is they are not trying to compete with online sellers. So why would someone buy from them? If they made something unique, then yes I can see people buying at a Gun Show, but 99% of vendors sell the same old stuff and nothing stands out and nothing is better than anything I could get online. I'm sure that an online seller doesn't have to pay well over $1500 in tables, employees and other expenses to go to a single two day gun show. Not sure how any dealer could remotely compete with online prices at a show given the costs involved just to show up. The only ones making money at the shows these days are the Promoters and Parking Lots. |
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I'm sure that an online seller doesn't have to pay well over $1500 in tables, employees and other expenses to go to a single two day gun show. Not sure how any dealer could remotely compete with online prices at a show given the costs involved just to show up. The only ones making money at the shows these days are the Promoters and Parking Lots. Quoted:
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Sounds like Texas Tactical, all they carry is good, name brand products, no cheap Chinese garbage. ..and they'll be at the GRB show this weekend Agreed. But the major issue, even with them, still remains, which is they are not trying to compete with online sellers. So why would someone buy from them? If they made something unique, then yes I can see people buying at a Gun Show, but 99% of vendors sell the same old stuff and nothing stands out and nothing is better than anything I could get online. I'm sure that an online seller doesn't have to pay well over $1500 in tables, employees and other expenses to go to a single two day gun show. Not sure how any dealer could remotely compete with online prices at a show given the costs involved just to show up. The only ones making money at the shows these days are the Promoters and Parking Lots. This is why you have "sales". Price your shit to move, and you'll sell more. My first gun show back in 2006, everything was cheaper. Cheaper than online, there were constant lines to buy stuff. Merchandise was flying off the table. 9 years later, no sales pitches, no discounts, no incentive to buy anything at the gun show beyond being able to see it before you buy it. Prices are MSRP or above. That defeats the whole purpose. I understand it costs vendors alot for these shows. That's why they hire idiots at minimum wage to just man the tables and do transactions. Good luck getting any solid info. Gun show should equal sales show. Price your gear to move, and it will. It seems as though they think of everyone at the gun show as uneducated buyers, idiots with fat wallets, that's the only reason i can come up with. There wouldn't be so many peddlers of Chinese crap of they expected smart customers. I was there for about 2 hours, and i didn't see anyone filing out ANY FFL forms. Most were window shopping and probably ordering online. The Internet is here to stay. People need to start competing with it, or the brick and mortar shops are doomed. |
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Quoted: This is why you have "sales". Price your shit to move, and you'll sell more. My first gun show back in 2006, everything was cheaper. Cheaper than online, there were constant lines to buy stuff. Merchandise was flying off the table. 9 years later, no sales pitches, no discounts, no incentive to buy anything at the gun show beyond being able to see it before you buy it. Prices are MSRP or above. That defeats the whole purpose. I understand it costs vendors alot for these shows. That's why they hire idiots at minimum wage to just man the tables and do transactions. Good luck getting any solid info. Gun show should equal sales show. Price your gear to move, and it will. It seems as though they think of everyone at the gun show as uneducated buyers, idiots with fat wallets, that's the only reason i can come up with. There wouldn't be so many peddlers of Chinese crap of they expected smart customers. I was there for about 2 hours, and i didn't see anyone filing out ANY FFL forms. Most were window shopping and probably ordering online. The Internet is here to stay. People need to start competing with it, or the brick and mortar shops are doomed. Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Sounds like Texas Tactical, all they carry is good, name brand products, no cheap Chinese garbage. ..and they'll be at the GRB show this weekend Agreed. But the major issue, even with them, still remains, which is they are not trying to compete with online sellers. So why would someone buy from them? If they made something unique, then yes I can see people buying at a Gun Show, but 99% of vendors sell the same old stuff and nothing stands out and nothing is better than anything I could get online. I'm sure that an online seller doesn't have to pay well over $1500 in tables, employees and other expenses to go to a single two day gun show. Not sure how any dealer could remotely compete with online prices at a show given the costs involved just to show up. The only ones making money at the shows these days are the Promoters and Parking Lots. This is why you have "sales". Price your shit to move, and you'll sell more. My first gun show back in 2006, everything was cheaper. Cheaper than online, there were constant lines to buy stuff. Merchandise was flying off the table. 9 years later, no sales pitches, no discounts, no incentive to buy anything at the gun show beyond being able to see it before you buy it. Prices are MSRP or above. That defeats the whole purpose. I understand it costs vendors alot for these shows. That's why they hire idiots at minimum wage to just man the tables and do transactions. Good luck getting any solid info. Gun show should equal sales show. Price your gear to move, and it will. It seems as though they think of everyone at the gun show as uneducated buyers, idiots with fat wallets, that's the only reason i can come up with. There wouldn't be so many peddlers of Chinese crap of they expected smart customers. I was there for about 2 hours, and i didn't see anyone filing out ANY FFL forms. Most were window shopping and probably ordering online. The Internet is here to stay. People need to start competing with it, or the brick and mortar shops are doomed. How's $45 Anderson lowers sound? How about a FDE Kel-Tec KSG for under $800? Kel-Tec PMR30 at MSRP etc... The deals are out there, you just have to go to the right tables to find them |
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Sounds like Texas Tactical, all they carry is good, name brand products, no cheap Chinese garbage. ..and they'll be at the GRB show this weekend Quoted:
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I understand that. That what sucks and is great about the Internet. I understand these guys got overhead to pay. But the gun show used to be a place to liquidate inventory, move shit that doesn't move on your store. That means you should lower the price. I'm not saying take a major hit on profit, but at least drop it some so it looks like you want to sell it. That my point, there are no vendors with quality stuff. I'm all about supporting local business. I've never seen Primary Arms at a gun show, even though they are here in Houston. Radical firearms, DSG, why aren't these guys at the gun shows? I always looked at a gun show like a flea market, or a swap meet. To me, it makes more sense to drop your prices at a gun show. But, these vendors hire idiots just to man the tables, no one knows shit about the stuff on their table, and there is absolutely no sales pitch going on. It's sad to see the industry going like this. Well the High Caliber gun show at NRG is pretty cheesy. I know of one vendor that will be at the George R Brown show this weekend. They carry no chinese junk. Aimpoint, Eotech, Daniel Defense, Magpul, Mega, Spikes, Fortis, Troy...etc. Sounds like Texas Tactical, all they carry is good, name brand products, no cheap Chinese garbage. ..and they'll be at the GRB show this weekend You and your friend working the table this weekend? 
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I understand that. That what sucks and is great about the Internet. I understand these guys got overhead to pay. But the gun show used to be a place to liquidate inventory, move shit that doesn't move on your store. That means you should lower the price. I'm not saying take a major hit on profit, but at least drop it some so it looks like you want to sell it. That my point, there are no vendors with quality stuff. I'm all about supporting local business. I've never seen Primary Arms at a gun show, even though they are here in Houston. Radical firearms, DSG, why aren't these guys at the gun shows? I always looked at a gun show like a flea market, or a swap meet. To me, it makes more sense to drop your prices at a gun show. But, these vendors hire idiots just to man the tables, no one knows shit about the stuff on their table, and there is absolutely no sales pitch going on. It's sad to see the industry going like this. Been to a mall lately? Same thing. Few of them have a mall full of store fronts (usually the high end ones) and a substantial percentage of the fronts occupied will be flea market junk. The technical term is disintermediation - few customers value the ability of a merchant to select goods for sale, inventory them, and provide detailed knowledge about products. For the most part, brick and mortar exists to provide immediate gratification of purchase and expensive items that the buyer needs to examine before purchase. |
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I was a Gun Show regular. Never missed a Market Hall Show in 20 years or so. Always first in door, grabbing up the best deal by 9:05.
But I too have noticed over the years the switch by vendors to Chinese junk. I do not think I go to more than 1 show a year now, and then just to see if anything has changed and grab lunch with friends. Nothing has changed, if anything it is worse. It sure does seem the heyday of gun shows is over. |
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I was a Gun Show regular. Never missed a Market Hall Show in 20 years or so. Always first in door, grabbing up the best deal by 9:05. But I too have noticed over the years the switch by vendors to Chinese junk. I do not think I go to more than 1 show a year now, and then just to see if anything has changed and grab lunch with friends. Nothing has changed, if anything it is worse. It sure does seem the heyday of gun shows is over. It's been almost five years since I went to the MH show. Used to drive up Friday night and stay at the Marriot down the street, hit a decent restaurant, get up and be at the door at 8:30am. Now it looks like every other lame show. 
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Gun shows as we know them will fade into obscurity in the not too distant future. Politicians won't be able to rant about the "gunshow loophole".
Does anyone remember gunshows before dealers were allowed to set up at gunshows? That was a looong time ago, all private party sales. No jerky, jewelry and before beanie babies. Entirely different venue then, even sold beer at some shows. |
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Gun shows as we know them will fade into obscurity in the not too distant future. Politicians won't be able to rant about the "gunshow loophole". Does anyone remember gunshows before dealers were allowed to set up at gunshows? That was a looong time ago, all private party sales. No jerky, jewelry and before beanie babies. Entirely different venue then, even sold beer at some shows. That's what i noticed about the Premier Gun show. The majority of the tables were peddling junk. Most of which wasn't even firearm related. Crap jewelery, purses, crap. It's sad. But like another poster said, I'll but from Katy gun gear because they seem like good people, are usually under MSRP, and i live off mason Rd. I'd goto Texas Tactical more if they weren't on the other side of the world, i mean Houston. AJC went to crap after the Sandy hook mess. Pmags for 60$, and hoarded the ammo for the people who worked there to flip online. I liked that store before Sandy hook, but avoided it afterwards. Katy Gun Gear had limitations on mags and ammo, but did not price gouge. I became a permanent customer after that. But, unfortunately, they raised their FFL fees to 35$. But still isn't too bad, there are much worse out there. |