[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Texas Rising (Page 1 of 2)
Posted: 5/25/2015 9:15:10 PM EDT
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Scenery is all wrong, acting is bad, and the story jumps around so much that it's hard to stay interested. Very disappointed. Does it show everything as desert/brush country? So far, at least what I have seen. Everything seems to have a sepia filter as well. |
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Scenery is all wrong, acting is bad, and the story jumps around so much that it's hard to stay interested. Very disappointed. It's fucked up worse than polio. And yes everything looks like the Davis mountains/ White ranch. Accents are off too. Dear California GTF outta Texas! |
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It's fucked up worse than polio. And yes everything looks like the Davis mountains/ White ranch. Accents are off too. Dear California GTF outta Texas! Quoted:
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Scenery is all wrong, acting is bad, and the story jumps around so much that it's hard to stay interested. Very disappointed. It's fucked up worse than polio. And yes everything looks like the Davis mountains/ White ranch. Accents are off too. Dear California GTF outta Texas! It's not even the Davis Mountains. Way too much desert, gigantic mountains, and wrong trees for the Texas Hill Country area. |
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It's not even the Davis Mountains. Way too much desert, gigantic mountains, and wrong trees for the Texas Hill Country area. Quoted:
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Scenery is all wrong, acting is bad, and the story jumps around so much that it's hard to stay interested. Very disappointed. It's fucked up worse than polio. And yes everything looks like the Davis mountains/ White ranch. Accents are off too. Dear California GTF outta Texas! It's not even the Davis Mountains. Way too much desert, gigantic mountains, and wrong trees for the Texas Hill Country area. I wonder if San Jacinto is going to look like Southwest TX? |
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Scenery is all wrong, acting is bad, and the story jumps around so much that it's hard to stay interested. Very disappointed. It's fucked up worse than polio. And yes everything looks like the Davis mountains/ White ranch. Accents are off too. Dear California GTF outta Texas! It's not even the Davis Mountains. Way too much desert, gigantic mountains, and wrong trees for the Texas Hill Country area. That's my point, Davis mountains north. White ranch near Marfa. Nothing fits |
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That's my point, Davis mountains north. White ranch near Marfa. Nothing fits Quoted:
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Scenery is all wrong, acting is bad, and the story jumps around so much that it's hard to stay interested. Very disappointed. It's fucked up worse than polio. And yes everything looks like the Davis mountains/ White ranch. Accents are off too. Dear California GTF outta Texas! It's not even the Davis Mountains. Way too much desert, gigantic mountains, and wrong trees for the Texas Hill Country area. That's my point, Davis mountains north. White ranch near Marfa. Nothing fits Durango Mexico http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_Rising |
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I've seen some bad, inaccurate portrayals of Texas but this is the worst. When those two bad acting yahoos started horse racing I had to change channels.
The Texas Rangers were barely a small, loosely formed group of volunteers that patrolled for harassing Indians and didn't play a significant role in Houston's army or Texas's battle for Independence as this crap would have you believe. This shit isn't worth the electricity to watch it. And Houston and his men were never close to whats now IH 35 and it shows them camping in what looks like West Texas in the Guadalupe Mountains. |
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Did Sam Houston have an African American mistress? I've never heard of that. If he did it wasn't Emily West. In my opinion he made up the yellow rose of Texas because he was anti slavery and wouldn't swear allegiance to the confederacy. In fact if memory serves me ( and I've been drinking like a fish all afternoon) he was removed from the government of of Texas for not doing so. It's very complicated but I grew up in a family that came in with Austin's first 300. My grandmother was very old school on Texas history. The crap displayed tonight is revisionist history and as my grandfather would say Smoke mirrors and horse shit. Santa Ana was released because he was a mason " is there no mercy for the widows son" and so was Houston. Hell he even lived in the US several years after the wars. I'm even offend by the depiction of Santa Ana and The Mexican army. It was the fourth largest super power in the world at that time ( could be wrong but not by much ) they were professional soldiers. Santa Ana is still hated in Mexico to this day by his own people for losing half, yes half of Mexico to the US. In my opinion the acquisition of California and gold rush is what started us off as a super power. But president Polk gets little credit for that. |
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If he did it wasn't Emily West. In my opinion he made up the yellow rose of Texas because he was anti slavery and wouldn't swear allegiance to the confederacy. In fact if memory serves me ( and I've been drinking like a fish all afternoon) he was removed from the government of of Texas for not doing so. It's very complicated but I grew up in a family that came in with Austin's first 300. My grandmother was very old school on Texas history. The crap displayed tonight is revisionist history and as my grandfather would say Smoke mirrors and horse shit. Santa Ana was released because he was a mason " is there no mercy for the widows son" and so was Houston. Hell he even lived in the US several years after the wars. I'm even offend by the depiction of Santa Ana and The Mexican army. It was the fourth largest super power in the world at that time ( could be wrong but not by much ) they were professional soldiers. Santa Ana is still hated in Mexico to this day by his own people for losing half, yes half of Mexico to the US. In my opinion the acquisition of California and gold rush is what started us off as a super power. But president Polk gets little credit for that. Quoted:
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Did Sam Houston have an African American mistress? I've never heard of that. If he did it wasn't Emily West. In my opinion he made up the yellow rose of Texas because he was anti slavery and wouldn't swear allegiance to the confederacy. In fact if memory serves me ( and I've been drinking like a fish all afternoon) he was removed from the government of of Texas for not doing so. It's very complicated but I grew up in a family that came in with Austin's first 300. My grandmother was very old school on Texas history. The crap displayed tonight is revisionist history and as my grandfather would say Smoke mirrors and horse shit. Santa Ana was released because he was a mason " is there no mercy for the widows son" and so was Houston. Hell he even lived in the US several years after the wars. I'm even offend by the depiction of Santa Ana and The Mexican army. It was the fourth largest super power in the world at that time ( could be wrong but not by much ) they were professional soldiers. Santa Ana is still hated in Mexico to this day by his own people for losing half, yes half of Mexico to the US. In my opinion the acquisition of California and gold rush is what started us off as a super power. But president Polk gets little credit for that. I heard that Santa Anna shot Houston a secret Masonic sign when he was brought before Houston after the Battle of San Jacinto and thats why Houston didn't execute him. Not sure if true. I also heard Santa Anna had a quadroon or octoroon in his tent the night before the battle of San Jacinto and he was sleeping off a hangover when the Texans attacked. |
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I was really looking forward to it but the replies so far are spot-on. With all those great actors involved, the acting still seems to suck thanks to bad writing/directing. The fight scenes are HORRIBLY choreographed and nothing looks realistic. The series is obviously going to focus way too much on the softer side of things with the two dumbass kids trying to impress the nurse chick and all the other obvious "love interest" shit that they're including for no reason. They're going to throw in a lot of completely irrelevant side stories just to prolong everything. Way to go, History Channel. You ruined a great story. Again. |
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The fight scenes are HORRIBLY choreographed and nothing looks realistic. There is a scene when the same actor who played Corporal Upham in Saving Private Ryan is cowering in a house, just like the movie. In the tv series he is being beaten by a bull whip and someone draws a pistol and fires it at his feet. The pistol is being carried around as if it were more than a single shot. It is being carried as if it were a Colt Peacemaker. Pretty hilarious. Back then if you wanted to take someone apart you did it with a big knife and a club. Many of the Mexican Army killed at San Jacinto were beaten to death with homemade weapons, clubs, maces, farming tools, axes, shovels. That is the dirty end of the business and the way things were done. Not this gunslinger stuff. The show features elaborate campsites, lots of camping gear and lavish amounts of women, campfires and camping spots with wide open vistas atop mountains with pine trees. None of which is true. I am confused about the whole Texas Ranger aspect as nearly all men under Houston's command were members of the Texas Army. I looked at some muster rolls today at lunch and nearly all are in infantry, dragoon and cavalry companies, not Ranger units. This show is terrible. The real history is far more entertaining than the fake stuff. |
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I DVR'd it last night hoping to see some reviews today as to whether it was worth watching. Guess I have my answer! Same here. I was really looking forward to watching the series with my son, now after reading these reviews I don't think I will bother with it. |
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Quoted: So far, at least what I have seen. Everything seems to have a sepia filter as well. Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Scenery is all wrong, acting is bad, and the story jumps around so much that it's hard to stay interested. Very disappointed. Does it show everything as desert/brush country? So far, at least what I have seen. Everything seems to have a sepia filter as well.  |
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Same here. I was really looking forward to watching the series with my son, now after reading these reviews I don't think I will bother with it. Quoted:
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I DVR'd it last night hoping to see some reviews today as to whether it was worth watching. Guess I have my answer! Same here. I was really looking forward to watching the series with my son, now after reading these reviews I don't think I will bother with it. +1. |
Here is a screenshot of The Battle of the Alamo scene
I wonder where the mountains wandered off to that once stood in downtown San Antonio. Almost certain that the Mexican Army did not use tree branches for concealment for their artillery pieces. How could they get that so wrong? |
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Can anyone recommend a good book on the Texas revolution? I grew up up north so my education on local history is badly lacking. Jeff Long's Duel of Eagles. Informative, accurate and haunting with many footnotes and references. You'll be awe inspired how ferocious and determined the Anglo's were. |
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I was disappointed with Texas Rising. It's been painful to watch. Poor acting, bad directing, pitiful writing and dialog, clothing from 1870's, poor location selection, lousy soundtrack and effects, etc. It reminds me of some of the 1970's spaghetti westerns filmed in Italy. 
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Oh man, I was over at my folks house watching this earlier, we were all like where the fuck in Gonzales is that massive rocky cliff!? They really fucked up the scenery in that badly. Quoted:
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Gonzales looks a lot different than I remember... Oh man, I was over at my folks house watching this earlier, we were all like where the fuck in Gonzales is that massive rocky cliff!? They really fucked up the scenery in that badly. To a set designer in NYC or Hollywood, everything in flyover country looks pretty much the same from 30,000 feet...
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Here is a screenshot of The Battle of the Alamo scene http://i.imgur.com/2mYlFCL.jpg I wonder where the mountains wandered off to that once stood in downtown San Antonio. How could they get that so wrong? Didn't you that the mountains were leveled so that the River Walk could be built?
I'm form New York and therefore by definition ignorant of Texas history. But I have been to the Alamo twice and I didn't see any mountains. I found the Alamo a bit disappointing if that is the correct word. Being totally surrounded by a modern city really takes it away from it's original setting as a lonely surrounded outpost outside a small town. Several years ago there was a TV series Called Amazing Stories. It was created by Stephen Spielberg. They did a story on the Alamo where a young soldier goes through a door and winds up in modern San Antonio. It is actually a very good episode. The episode is called Alamo Jobe. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3EnBmPTHI4 |
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Didn't you that the mountains were leveled so that the River Walk could be built?
I'm form New York and therefore by definition ignorant of Texas history. But I have been to the Alamo twice and I didn't see any mountains. I found the Alamo a bit disappointing if that is the correct word. Being totally surrounded by a modern city really takes it away from it's original setting as a lonely surrounded outpost outside a small town. Several years ago there was a TV series Called Amazing Stories. It was created by Stephen Spielberg. They did a story on the Alamo where a young soldier goes through a door and winds up in modern San Antonio. It is actually a very good episode. The episode is called Alamo Jobe. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3EnBmPTHI4 Quoted:
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Here is a screenshot of The Battle of the Alamo scene http://i.imgur.com/2mYlFCL.jpg I wonder where the mountains wandered off to that once stood in downtown San Antonio. How could they get that so wrong? Didn't you that the mountains were leveled so that the River Walk could be built?
I'm form New York and therefore by definition ignorant of Texas history. But I have been to the Alamo twice and I didn't see any mountains. I found the Alamo a bit disappointing if that is the correct word. Being totally surrounded by a modern city really takes it away from it's original setting as a lonely surrounded outpost outside a small town. Several years ago there was a TV series Called Amazing Stories. It was created by Stephen Spielberg. They did a story on the Alamo where a young soldier goes through a door and winds up in modern San Antonio. It is actually a very good episode. The episode is called Alamo Jobe. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3EnBmPTHI4 If you look at the maps, the Alamo isn't surrounded by a city. Most of what WAS the inside of the Alamo IS now the city. Cross the street in front of the church and there's a few old ruins under glass that you can see, but that street runs through what used to be the courtyard. |
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Did Sam Houston have an African American mistress? I've never heard of that. I'm going to jump ahead and predict that Sam Houston sends her to spy on Santa Anna and she becomes "The Yellow Rose Of Texas" seducing Santa Anna and wringing & wearing him out so badly that he can't leave his bunk / tent Thus Sam Houston can win the battle of San Jacinto and Texas Liberty... Remember fans, I called it here first! BIGGER_HAMMER 
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I tried to watch the second episode last night but only lasted 15 seconds and couldn't take any more torture after watching the first episode. I had such high hopes for this series which is horrible.
I'm sure this is a plot by the Mexicans to make Texans look like idiots. |
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I remember watching "Uncommon Valor" back when it came out at the Town & Country 6 theater in West Houston.
When Gene Hackman has the scene where is training his "merc volunteers at "Houston Texas" the entire theater burst into laughter at all the tall hills and trees.... That was also another Great Location Casting there Sparky!!! BIGGER_HAMMER
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If you look at the maps, the Alamo isn't surrounded by a city. Most of what WAS the inside of the Alamo IS now the city. Cross the street in front of the church and there's a few old ruins under glass that you can see, but that street runs through what used to be the courtyard. Quoted:
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Here is a screenshot of The Battle of the Alamo scene http://i.imgur.com/2mYlFCL.jpg I wonder where the mountains wandered off to that once stood in downtown San Antonio. How could they get that so wrong? Didn't you that the mountains were leveled so that the River Walk could be built?
I'm form New York and therefore by definition ignorant of Texas history. But I have been to the Alamo twice and I didn't see any mountains. I found the Alamo a bit disappointing if that is the correct word. Being totally surrounded by a modern city really takes it away from it's original setting as a lonely surrounded outpost outside a small town. Several years ago there was a TV series Called Amazing Stories. It was created by Stephen Spielberg. They did a story on the Alamo where a young soldier goes through a door and winds up in modern San Antonio. It is actually a very good episode. The episode is called Alamo Jobe. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3EnBmPTHI4 If you look at the maps, the Alamo isn't surrounded by a city. Most of what WAS the inside of the Alamo IS now the city. Cross the street in front of the church and there's a few old ruins under glass that you can see, but that street runs through what used to be the courtyard. I know. It was just a bit strange to see it as it is now. When I was there they had a display of photographs and painting of the Alamo as it looked over the years. I found it fascinating. If you go to Gettysburg or Fredricksburg you can walk the battlefield and get a real sense of what happened there. It was much harder to envision what happened at the Alamo because so little of the original site remains. A modern city surrounds it. People hustle on their way over the very spot where so many gave their all. |
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I know. It was just a bit strange to see it as it is now. When I was there they had a display of photographs and painting of the Alamo as it looked over the years. I found it fascinating. If you go to Gettysburg or Fredricksburg you can walk the battlefield and get a real sense of what happened there. It was much harder to envision what happened at the Alamo because so little of the original site remains. A modern city surrounds it. People hustle on their way over the very spot where so many gave their all. Every time I see a picture or visit the river walk, I think how awesome it would have been if the whole place would have been preserved. |
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lol, not sure why anyone thinks there are mountains anywhere in Texas...let alone near the alamo. Mountains have tree-lines. If it don't have snow on top year-round, and require special mountaineering equipment / skills to summit, it ain't a mountain! (special exception for Hawaii, of course!)
For the flat-landers out there, real mountains look like this: 
you guys do have a few cool hills down there though. 
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Can anyone recommend a good book on the Texas revolution? I grew up up north so my education on local history is badly lacking. The most detailed "book" I have found thus far is a series called Savage Frontier - a 5 volume set. Volume 1 covers the Texas revolution. I started with Volume 3. My great great great great great grandfather was Captain of a Mongomery County militia during the "Archer Campaign" in 1840 - Volume 3 contains the best printed reference to that campaign I have found thus far. During the first part of the Texas Revolution GGGGGGpa rode with a Ranger group for a month before transferring to Neil's Artillery around the first of April 1836. The "Texas Rising" dramatic misinterpretation has been disappointing, but there are few things they got right. Clothing and firearms used have been pretty accurate. In my opinion the 2004 movie "The Alamo" is much, much better. |