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3/31/2015 5:29:44 PM EDT
Support Uber Texas

State Representatives Chris Paddie, John Kuempel, and Lyle Larson have introduced a bill that would establish consistent ridesharing regulations that protect riders, increase transportation options, expand economic opportunity and ensure Uber has a permanent home in Texas.

Tell your legislators to vote YES on Rep. Paddie’s bill -- sign the petition today to support Uber Texas!
3/31/2015 6:23:25 PM EDT
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Oh heck no, if there's anything this state does not need it's more "regulation".

Uber can either survive or fail on it's own without any .gov interference.

Free markets, how do they work?

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3/31/2015 7:14:16 PM EDT
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This. No way I support the taxi cab industry from competition.

Who the fuck thinks we need more .gov rules?

Really op, which cab co do you work for?

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3/31/2015 8:53:46 PM EDT
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Well the point is it  is about government regulations. The big taxi companies are cock blocking Uber and such by getting regulations passed that effectively ban ride sharing companies in favor of taxi companies. If you think the taxi companies are not greasing the palms of the local city councils you haven't been around Texas politics.
3/31/2015 9:19:03 PM EDT
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Obviously you don't read the stories of uber royally fucking people by price gouging people worse than CTD.  Better yet there have been several stories in Uber cities of uber drivers using uber to pick up women and raping them.  I'll pass.  Let me guess, you are an uber driver?  I'd prefer they stay the course on removing gun restrictions than giving hipsters their ride sharing program ( which is hipster talk for deregulated taxi service that does not have to live by the same rules as everybody else)
3/31/2015 10:24:46 PM EDT
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I'm fine with Uber, Lyfte and others.

The regs are so the City can't block them to protect their taxicab monopolies.

Nothing wrong with having some reasonable standards (back ground check, insurance, etc...)

I don't drive a taxi or uber, but would use their service more likely than some nasty taxi if I needed a ride.

The poster who pointed out that Taxi companies pay a LOT of "assistance fees" to city personal to keep others out of the market and give the taxi companies an effective monopoly.

BIGGER_HAMMER

3/31/2015 10:54:17 PM EDT
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A handful of cities are considering the best way to regulate the
ridesharing industry—as a result, Uber is forced to comply with a
variety of regulatory frameworks that vary as greatly as the Texas
landscape. Uber supports smart regulations that protect riders and
drivers, increase transportation options, and expand access to economic
opportunity. And while dozens of cities and states across the nation
have adopted forward-thinking legislation, some cities in Texas have
imposed rules that crippled Uber’s ability to connect people with safe, reliable rides.
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Sounds like this is something they want to get the city councils off their back.
3/31/2015 11:16:16 PM EDT
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Yeah! Screw pricing that reflects market realities! More government regulation is always good, especially when directed at businesses!

 





3/31/2015 11:30:14 PM EDT
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I hate Uber.  I can't count the number of times those dipshot drivers have stopped in the middle of the road, middle of the block and in the middle of traffic to turn on their hazards and drop or pick up a fair, which then takes forever getting in or out of the car.

They are worst than cabs for blocking traffic and creating gridlock.  I'd rather ride one of those stupid carts pulled by hippies you see downtown in Austin.
3/31/2015 11:33:53 PM EDT
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I signed it, screw the local cities who want to prohibit it.

The few times I've gotten a ride with Uber they vehicles and the drivers seemed of higher quality than in any of the Taxis I've been in.
3/31/2015 11:36:54 PM EDT
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Free market, how does it work? If someone in the North East wants to go out and party just before a snowstorm hits then it's only fair they pay big $$$ to get someone to go out and rescue their asses. If they don't like that then they can walk.

Better yet there have been several stories in Uber cities of uber drivers using uber to pick up women and raping them.


Because cabbies have never committed criminal acts before?
3/31/2015 11:50:53 PM EDT
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Uber the company is terrible and is run by assholes, but Uber the service is awesome. I hate surge pricing but totally understand it. It provides an incentive for more supply when demand is high (yay capitalism!). To be honest, every time surge pricing has been in effect for me, I just had to walk a block or two from where the "action" was and prices were more sane.
4/1/2015 10:02:50 AM EDT
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Yeah! Screw pricing that reflects market realities! More government regulation is always good, especially when directed at businesses!  




Wow spend 5 minutes with a little research.  They have been caught gouging people https://www.thewire.com/technology//02/uber-busted-intentionally-surging-prices/358555/
A few months ago there was the hostage crisis in Sydney.  They were caught charging hundreds for just a couple of miles in that area
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2014/12/15/uber-backtracks-after-jacking-up-prices-during-syndey-hostage-crisis/
This took me two minutes, there is a lot more where that came from.  Greed affects everybody, fuck uber.  Oh and I don't use taxis either.  

As to those complaining taxi companies line the pockets of politicians, every industry does.  The industry that we all support does the same shit.  It is called lobbying and has been part of our political environment since the 1860's.
4/1/2015 10:08:54 AM EDT
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Free market, how does it work? If someone in the North East wants to go out and party just before a snowstorm hits then it's only fair they pay big $$$ to get someone to go out and rescue their asses. If they don't like that then they can walk.



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Free market, how does it work? If someone in the North East wants to go out and party just before a snowstorm hits then it's only fair they pay big $$$ to get someone to go out and rescue their asses. If they don't like that then they can walk.

Better yet there have been several stories in Uber cities of uber drivers using uber to pick up women and raping them.


Because cabbies have never committed criminal acts before?

Big difference, taxis are regulated and they are forced to carry things like liability insurance as well as back ground checks, uber doesn't have to follow any of those laws.  Free market has nothing to do with this.  Forcing taxi companies (virtually every city has more than one so calling them a monopoly is ignorant) to be regulated then allowing other companies to do as they please is horse shit.  i don't use taxis or uber but I don't buy into all the trendy bull shit that the hipsters at uber are trying to force feed those that will listen.
4/1/2015 2:06:36 PM EDT
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My dad does it on the weekend for some extra spending money he has lots of fun stories but so far no one has barfed in his car.
4/1/2015 2:31:41 PM EDT
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The regs are so the City can't block them to protect their taxicab monopolies.
Nothing wrong with having some reasonable standards (back ground check, insurance, etc...)
I don't drive a taxi or uber, but would use their service more likely than some nasty taxi if I needed a ride.
The poster who pointed out that Taxi companies pay a LOT of "assistance fees" to city personal to keep others out of the market and give the taxi companies an effective monopoly.
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Wow this form really took off, but thank you for the backup from the few. As for the other don't sign it, it won't bother me one bit because honestly it will get passed. Its a better form of transportation than taxis, period.
4/1/2015 2:33:44 PM EDT
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VANDY , I got past your other posts and invited you to my place.
You couldn't make it , but sent a bottle of Crown.

Thank You .
What do I owe you ?

After your posts in this thread  , you are no longer invited.
IM me your address , I'll send you the cash.
4/1/2015 5:47:12 PM EDT
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Thank You .
What do I owe you ?

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IM me your address , I'll send you the cash.
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you so disagree with a man's opinion onthis subject as to rescind an invite?
4/1/2015 5:51:10 PM EDT
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VANDY , I got past your other posts and invited you to my place.
You couldn't make it , but sent a bottle of Crown.

Thank You .
What do I owe you ?

After your posts in this thread  , you are no longer invited.
IM me your address , I'll send you the cash.



you so disagree with a man's opinion onthis subject as to rescind an invite?


This , along with others.
4/1/2015 5:51:19 PM EDT
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Now that post by ranchrifle makes sense.
4/1/2015 5:52:35 PM EDT
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Now that post by ranchrifle makes sense.


Yep.
4/1/2015 5:55:02 PM EDT
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My gut feeling and first instinct is "New law?  Don't trust it."  I mean, why fuck with a good thing?   Government regulation rarely makes anything better and usually fucks it up beyond all recognition.


I have to see the language, tho.  If this is some kind of pre-emption to keep cities from passing ordinances that favor the cab companies by banning or putting onerous regulation on uber, this might be something I could get behind.
4/1/2015 6:04:54 PM EDT
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Wow spend 5 minutes with a little research.  They have been caught gouging people http://www.thewire.com/technology//02/uber-busted-intentionally-surging-prices/358555/


A few months ago there was the hostage crisis in Sydney.  They were caught charging hundreds for just a couple of miles in that area


http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2014/12/15/uber-backtracks-after-jacking-up-prices-during-syndey-hostage-crisis/


This took me two minutes, there is a lot more where that came from.  Greed affects everybody, fuck uber.  Oh and I don't use taxis either.  





As to those complaining taxi companies line the pockets of politicians, every industry does.  The industry that we all support does the same shit.  It is called lobbying and has been part of our political environment since the 1860's.
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Obviously you don't read the stories of uber royally fucking people by price gouging people worse than CTD.  Better yet there have been several stories in Uber cities of uber drivers using uber to pick up women and raping them.  I'll pass.  Let me guess, you are an uber driver?  I'd prefer they stay the course on removing gun restrictions than giving hipsters their ride sharing program ( which is hipster talk for deregulated taxi service that does not have to live by the same rules as everybody else)
Yeah! Screw pricing that reflects market realities! More government regulation is always good, especially when directed at businesses!  



Wow spend 5 minutes with a little research.  They have been caught gouging people http://www.thewire.com/technology//02/uber-busted-intentionally-surging-prices/358555/


A few months ago there was the hostage crisis in Sydney.  They were caught charging hundreds for just a couple of miles in that area


http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2014/12/15/uber-backtracks-after-jacking-up-prices-during-syndey-hostage-crisis/


This took me two minutes, there is a lot more where that came from.  Greed affects everybody, fuck uber.  Oh and I don't use taxis either.  





As to those complaining taxi companies line the pockets of politicians, every industry does.  The industry that we all support does the same shit.  It is called lobbying and has been part of our political environment since the 1860's.



Wait, so you are not personally impacted by surge pricing (what you call gouging) yet you want the government to put a stop to it? What the hell sort of sense does that make?



But, since you asked me to read, and I am capable of the task:

The wapo article clearly indicates that they gave notice that they were raising prices. It also mentions that as thousands were trying to leave the area, the higher prices were intended to attract more drivers. Seems like simple supply and demand issues. Nobody was forced to ride with Uber. Nobody was lied to about pricing. They new the cost, and they still got in the car. Perhaps the mindless legislation you really should support is prohibitions against idiots leaving their own homes.





 
4/1/2015 6:20:15 PM EDT
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So it is okay to regulate the taxi companies but not uber?  That makes sense to you?  Just curious what you dislike about the cab companies?  As to impacted during surge no.  A few months ago I looked at giving uber a try as I needed to go pick up my car from the body shop, quote was 20 for uber, 10 for the taxi.  Taxi picked me up with in 10 minutes and the cab was clean.  Honestly that is the first time I have used a taxi since 07 when I was in Vegas.  I originally thought uber was a great idea.  I even have a friend that drives for them and I looked at doing it on the weekends.  As I looked further into it I realized what kind of company they were and my opinions changed.  I don't like greed nor hypocrisy and uber reeks of both.    
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Wait, so you are not personally impacted by surge pricing (what you call gouging) yet you want the government to put a stop to it? What the hell sort of sense does that make?

But, since you asked me to read, and I am capable of the task:
The wapo article clearly indicates that they gave notice that they were raising prices. It also mentions that as thousands were trying to leave the area, the higher prices were intended to attract more drivers. Seems like simple supply and demand issues. Nobody was forced to ride with Uber. Nobody was lied to about pricing. They new the cost, and they still got in the car. Perhaps the mindless legislation you really should support is prohibitions against idiots leaving their own homes.
 
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Obviously you don't read the stories of uber royally fucking people by price gouging people worse than CTD.  Better yet there have been several stories in Uber cities of uber drivers using uber to pick up women and raping them.  I'll pass.  Let me guess, you are an uber driver?  I'd prefer they stay the course on removing gun restrictions than giving hipsters their ride sharing program ( which is hipster talk for deregulated taxi service that does not have to live by the same rules as everybody else)
Yeah! Screw pricing that reflects market realities! More government regulation is always good, especially when directed at businesses!  




Wow spend 5 minutes with a little research.  They have been caught gouging people http://www.thewire.com/technology//02/uber-busted-intentionally-surging-prices/358555/
A few months ago there was the hostage crisis in Sydney.  They were caught charging hundreds for just a couple of miles in that area
http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2014/12/15/uber-backtracks-after-jacking-up-prices-during-syndey-hostage-crisis/
This took me two minutes, there is a lot more where that came from.  Greed affects everybody, fuck uber.  Oh and I don't use taxis either.  

As to those complaining taxi companies line the pockets of politicians, every industry does.  The industry that we all support does the same shit.  It is called lobbying and has been part of our political environment since the 1860's.

Wait, so you are not personally impacted by surge pricing (what you call gouging) yet you want the government to put a stop to it? What the hell sort of sense does that make?

But, since you asked me to read, and I am capable of the task:
The wapo article clearly indicates that they gave notice that they were raising prices. It also mentions that as thousands were trying to leave the area, the higher prices were intended to attract more drivers. Seems like simple supply and demand issues. Nobody was forced to ride with Uber. Nobody was lied to about pricing. They new the cost, and they still got in the car. Perhaps the mindless legislation you really should support is prohibitions against idiots leaving their own homes.
 

4/1/2015 6:22:35 PM EDT
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I spoke to him via pm.  His land, his rules.  It is no big deal to me.  I have total respect for him with zero hard feelings.  we discussed a few things and what is done is done.  No biggie.
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VANDY , I got past your other posts and invited you to my place.
You couldn't make it , but sent a bottle of Crown.

Thank You .
What do I owe you ?

After your posts in this thread  , you are no longer invited.
IM me your address , I'll send you the cash.



you so disagree with a man's opinion onthis subject as to rescind an invite?

4/1/2015 6:23:26 PM EDT
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So it is okay to regulate the taxi companies but not uber?  That makes sense to you?  Just curious what you dislike about the cab companies?  As to impacted during surge no.  A few months ago I looked at giving uber a try as I needed to go pick up my car from the body shop, quote was 20 for uber, 10 for the taxi.  Taxi picked me up with in 10 minutes and the cab was clean.  Honestly that is the first time I have used a taxi since 07 when I was in Vegas.  I originally thought uber was a great idea.  I even have a friend that drives for them and I looked at doing it on the weekends.  As I looked further into it I realized what kind of company they were and my opinions changed.  I don't like greed nor hypocrisy and uber reeks of both.    

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Were you proposing or supporting a bill that would help de-regulate cab companies?  I guess I missed that.

Also... what are you bitching about with that story?   Uber quoted you a price and you were free to decline or accept it.  I don't see how that story is an example of anything but you just not liking the price someone was asking for something.
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I spoke to him via pm.  His land, his rules.  It is no big deal to me.  I have total respect for him with zero hard feelings.  we discussed a few things and what is done is done.  No biggie.

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I spoke to him via pm.  His land, his rules.  It is no big deal to me.  I have total respect for him with zero hard feelings.  we discussed a few things and what is done is done.  No biggie.
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VANDY , I got past your other posts and invited you to my place.
You couldn't make it , but sent a bottle of Crown.

Thank You .
What do I owe you ?

After your posts in this thread  , you are no longer invited.
IM me your address , I'll send you the cash.



you so disagree with a man's opinion onthis subject as to rescind an invite?



Yep, we don't see eye to eye.
If I ever make it to the city I'd drink a beer with you.

No hard feelings here.
4/1/2015 6:29:01 PM EDT
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VANDY , I got past your other posts and invited you to my place.
You couldn't make it , but sent a bottle of Crown.

Thank You .
What do I owe you ?

After your posts in this thread  , you are no longer invited.
IM me your address , I'll send you the cash.



you so disagree with a man's opinion onthis subject as to rescind an invite?


This , along with others.



I respect that. A man who stands to his opinions is worthy of respect.
4/1/2015 6:38:10 PM EDT
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Okay I will break it down further

Uber:  calls themselves a ride sharing company versus a taxi company to get out of things such as insurance, back ground checks on drivers, etc.

Taxi: exact same thing as uber will shit loads of regulation

Now ask yourself how the fuck is that fair or support the free market.  All it does is allow one to do what ever they want while fucking over the other

Also insurance laws can get you fucked if you are in an uber car vs an taxi car if an accident happens.  Example would be here in Texas and this contributes to some of the fear.  Uber does not provide insurance, they rely on the driver to have it.  Most Texas drivers have the state minimum of 30k which is to be used for non commercial purposes.  Have you priced out an accident lately?  I was hit a year and a half ago, thank god I carried under insured.  His 30k covered half of my medical bills.  Another thing to consider, most insurance companies (if not all) carry a rider saying if the vehicle is used for commercial purposes when the accident occurred nothing will be paid, meaning the passenger who just need a lift gets royally fucked.  My whole point is if one is not regulated then don't regulate any of them don't just pick and choose.
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Were you proposing or supporting a bill that would help de-regulate cab companies?  I guess I missed that.

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So it is okay to regulate the taxi companies but not uber?  That makes sense to you?  Just curious what you dislike about the cab companies?  As to impacted during surge no.  A few months ago I looked at giving uber a try as I needed to go pick up my car from the body shop, quote was 20 for uber, 10 for the taxi.  Taxi picked me up with in 10 minutes and the cab was clean.  Honestly that is the first time I have used a taxi since 07 when I was in Vegas.  I originally thought uber was a great idea.  I even have a friend that drives for them and I looked at doing it on the weekends.  As I looked further into it I realized what kind of company they were and my opinions changed.  I don't like greed nor hypocrisy and uber reeks of both.    




Were you proposing or supporting a bill that would help de-regulate cab companies?  I guess I missed that.

Also... what are you bitching about with that story?   Uber quoted you a price and you were free to decline or accept it.  I don't see how that story is an example of anything but you just not liking the price someone was asking for something.

4/6/2015 3:22:45 PM EDT
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HB2440 is the best bill California money can buy
4/6/2015 3:48:29 PM EDT
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Obviously you don't read the stories of uber royally fucking people by price gouging people worse than CTD.  Better yet there have been several stories in Uber cities of uber drivers using uber to pick up women and raping them.  I'll pass.  Let me guess, you are an uber driver?  I'd prefer they stay the course on removing gun restrictions than giving hipsters their ride sharing program ( which is hipster talk for deregulated taxi service that does not have to live by the same rules as everybody else)
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Which cab company do you work for? You have competition in a new market place. Get over it. Adjust or die.





 
4/6/2015 4:19:18 PM EDT
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Well the point is it  is about government regulations. The big taxi companies are cock blocking Uber and such by getting regulations passed that effectively ban ride sharing companies in favor of taxi companies. If you think the taxi companies are not greasing the palms of the local city councils you haven't been around Texas politics.
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Oh heck no, if there's anything this state does not need it's more "regulation".

Uber can either survive or fail on it's own without any .gov interference.

Free markets, how do they work?

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Well the point is it  is about government regulations. The big taxi companies are cock blocking Uber and such by getting regulations passed that effectively ban ride sharing companies in favor of taxi companies. If you think the taxi companies are not greasing the palms of the local city councils you haven't been around Texas politics.


More regulation is not the answer. Less is. Get those rep's to work on repealing the uber-blocking reg's rather than making a carve out for Uber.
4/6/2015 8:12:25 PM EDT
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Which cab company do you work for? You have competition in a new market place. Get over it. Adjust or die.

 

None of them, I don't by into hypocrisy.  Read my post two above yours, then read the link another forum member posted.  Pretty simple, it is not competition when company A gets a free ride from anything regarding the law and companies B, C, and D are required to obey the laws already put force.  Hypocricy and greed will get us nowhere but further down the the shitter.
4/6/2015 8:15:22 PM EDT
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Glad to see I am not the only one that can clearly see through Uber's hipster hypocritical bullshit.  Not surprised they are a California company.
4/6/2015 9:47:30 PM EDT
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Okay I will break it down further





Uber:  calls themselves a ride sharing company versus a taxi company to get out of things such as insurance, back ground checks on drivers, etc.





Taxi: exact same thing as uber will shit loads of regulation





Now ask yourself how the fuck is that fair or support the free market.  All it does is allow one to do what ever they want while fucking over the other





Also insurance laws can get you fucked if you are in an uber car vs an taxi car if an accident happens.  Example would be here in Texas and this contributes to some of the fear.  Uber does not provide insurance, they rely on the driver to have it.  Most Texas drivers have the state minimum of 30k which is to be used for non commercial purposes.  Have you priced out an accident lately?  I was hit a year and a half ago, thank god I carried under insured.  His 30k covered half of my medical bills.  Another thing to consider, most insurance companies (if not all) carry a rider saying if the vehicle is used for commercial purposes when the accident occurred nothing will be paid, meaning the passenger who just need a lift gets royally fucked.  My whole point is if one is not regulated then don't regulate any of them don't just pick and choose.
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Okay I will break it down further





Uber:  calls themselves a ride sharing company versus a taxi company to get out of things such as insurance, back ground checks on drivers, etc.





Taxi: exact same thing as uber will shit loads of regulation





Now ask yourself how the fuck is that fair or support the free market.  All it does is allow one to do what ever they want while fucking over the other





Also insurance laws can get you fucked if you are in an uber car vs an taxi car if an accident happens.  Example would be here in Texas and this contributes to some of the fear.  Uber does not provide insurance, they rely on the driver to have it.  Most Texas drivers have the state minimum of 30k which is to be used for non commercial purposes.  Have you priced out an accident lately?  I was hit a year and a half ago, thank god I carried under insured.  His 30k covered half of my medical bills.  Another thing to consider, most insurance companies (if not all) carry a rider saying if the vehicle is used for commercial purposes when the accident occurred nothing will be paid, meaning the passenger who just need a lift gets royally fucked.  My whole point is if one is not regulated then don't regulate any of them don't just pick and choose.




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So it is okay to regulate the taxi companies but not uber?  That makes sense to you?  Just curious what you dislike about the cab companies?  As to impacted during surge no.  A few months ago I looked at giving uber a try as I needed to go pick up my car from the body shop, quote was 20 for uber, 10 for the taxi.  Taxi picked me up with in 10 minutes and the cab was clean.  Honestly that is the first time I have used a taxi since 07 when I was in Vegas.  I originally thought uber was a great idea.  I even have a friend that drives for them and I looked at doing it on the weekends.  As I looked further into it I realized what kind of company they were and my opinions changed.  I don't like greed nor hypocrisy and uber reeks of both.    






Were you proposing or supporting a bill that would help de-regulate cab companies?  I guess I missed that.





Also... what are you bitching about with that story?   Uber quoted you a price and you were free to decline or accept it.  I don't see how that story is an example of anything but you just not liking the price someone was asking for something.



ummm.... bro....

 





http://blog.uber.com/ridesharinginsurance







and I know for a fact that uber requires a background check for all potential drivers.  
























My personal opinion is this,  Uber as a business model is brilliant.  Zero car upkeep costs, and a very large amount of drivers and clients.  Now imho, Uber drivers are fucking idiots.  Yeah you get paid decently, but you have to recoup all of your costs for maintenance and do run the definite risk of a denied claim if you tell your insurance company you use your vehicle for deliveries/ride shares.  







As a consumer I have used Uber and cabs.  They both offer certain advantages and disadvantages.   You know the exact price that Uber will charge you before you pay for the ride.  Cabs.... not so much.







TLDR - Uber as a business model, brilliant.  Uber as a company to work for, terrible idea.  Uber as a consumer, awesome.


 






ETA - They should not be free from regulation, However, they are in uncharted water when it comes to what they are and how they affect roadways.  Technically the more uber drivers you have the less total automobiles you have on the road which would decrease the amount of road wear.  So food for pondering.
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ummm.... bro....  

http://blog.uber.com/ridesharinginsurance


and I know for a fact that uber requires a background check for all potential drivers.  


http://blog.uber.com/driverscreening







My personal opinion is this,  Uber as a business model is brilliant.  Zero car upkeep costs, and a very large amount of drivers and clients.  Now imho, Uber drivers are fucking idiots.  Yeah you get paid decently, but you have to recoup all of your costs for maintenance and do run the definite risk of a denied claim if you tell your insurance company you use your vehicle for deliveries/ride shares.  


As a consumer I have used Uber and cabs.  They both offer certain advantages and disadvantages.   You know the exact price that Uber will charge you before you pay for the ride.  Cabs.... not so much.


TLDR - Uber as a business model, brilliant.  Uber as a company to work for, terrible idea.  Uber as a consumer, awesome.
 



ETA - They should not be free from regulation, However, they are in uncharted water when it comes to what they are and how they affect roadways.  Technically the more uber drivers you have the less total automobiles you have on the road which would decrease the amount of road wear.  So food for pondering.
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Uber:  calls themselves a ride sharing company versus a taxi company to get out of things such as insurance, back ground checks on drivers, etc.

Taxi: exact same thing as uber will shit loads of regulation

Now ask yourself how the fuck is that fair or support the free market.  All it does is allow one to do what ever they want while fucking over the other

Also insurance laws can get you fucked if you are in an uber car vs an taxi car if an accident happens.  Example would be here in Texas and this contributes to some of the fear.  Uber does not provide insurance, they rely on the driver to have it.  Most Texas drivers have the state minimum of 30k which is to be used for non commercial purposes.  Have you priced out an accident lately?  I was hit a year and a half ago, thank god I carried under insured.  His 30k covered half of my medical bills.  Another thing to consider, most insurance companies (if not all) carry a rider saying if the vehicle is used for commercial purposes when the accident occurred nothing will be paid, meaning the passenger who just need a lift gets royally fucked.  My whole point is if one is not regulated then don't regulate any of them don't just pick and choose.
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So it is okay to regulate the taxi companies but not uber?  That makes sense to you?  Just curious what you dislike about the cab companies?  As to impacted during surge no.  A few months ago I looked at giving uber a try as I needed to go pick up my car from the body shop, quote was 20 for uber, 10 for the taxi.  Taxi picked me up with in 10 minutes and the cab was clean.  Honestly that is the first time I have used a taxi since 07 when I was in Vegas.  I originally thought uber was a great idea.  I even have a friend that drives for them and I looked at doing it on the weekends.  As I looked further into it I realized what kind of company they were and my opinions changed.  I don't like greed nor hypocrisy and uber reeks of both.    




Were you proposing or supporting a bill that would help de-regulate cab companies?  I guess I missed that.

Also... what are you bitching about with that story?   Uber quoted you a price and you were free to decline or accept it.  I don't see how that story is an example of anything but you just not liking the price someone was asking for something.

ummm.... bro....  

http://blog.uber.com/ridesharinginsurance


and I know for a fact that uber requires a background check for all potential drivers.  


http://blog.uber.com/driverscreening







My personal opinion is this,  Uber as a business model is brilliant.  Zero car upkeep costs, and a very large amount of drivers and clients.  Now imho, Uber drivers are fucking idiots.  Yeah you get paid decently, but you have to recoup all of your costs for maintenance and do run the definite risk of a denied claim if you tell your insurance company you use your vehicle for deliveries/ride shares.  


As a consumer I have used Uber and cabs.  They both offer certain advantages and disadvantages.   You know the exact price that Uber will charge you before you pay for the ride.  Cabs.... not so much.


TLDR - Uber as a business model, brilliant.  Uber as a company to work for, terrible idea.  Uber as a consumer, awesome.
 



ETA - They should not be free from regulation, However, they are in uncharted water when it comes to what they are and how they affect roadways.  Technically the more uber drivers you have the less total automobiles you have on the road which would decrease the amount of road wear.  So food for pondering.

As I know several drivers for Uber in Austin their blog has a lot of fluff.  While they do have a basic back ground check it is nothing as intensive as what companies labled taxi's have to go through.  We all know none of them are perfect, people will always slip through the cracks.  As to the insurance there is some fluff in it as well.  I pray nobody I know or anybody on here is involved in an accident while in an Uber vehicle.  They can say they have the coverage but since these cars are not theirs but the ultimate responsibility of the person that owns them it creates legal complications that will screw the Uber driver and his/her passengers.  

I agree compley the business model is awesome, get the money with very little overhead.  I am all for that and all for competition.  google has done a great job of getting the ISP's to get off their ass and upgrade 20 year old technology.  Competition benefits the end user, you and me.  My problem with uber only stems from they wanting a free pass while others have no choice but to comply with laws and regulations.  I don't like hypocrisy and Uber is a poster child for it.  If uber doesn't want to fall under the laws of other taxi cab companies, then nobody should have to follow said laws, IMO.  I am not a fan of special treatment.  I didn't explain myself in great detail in earlier posts which was my fault and it the cause for some peoples remarks.  I say fuck uber because they are hypocritical.  I don't like it in the government (which is full of it), I don't like it in my job, I don't like it anywhere.  How is it fair for one group to get regulated out the ass and the other almost identical get away almost none of it.   Regardless of what happens though the chance of me using any service like a taxi or uber is slim to none.  They are both over priced for the distance you go.  Cheaper to take the bus or have friends that will help in a jam.
4/6/2015 10:55:04 PM EDT
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I will also add but I don't see this as more regulation, only as regulating the new company the same way as the old ones, am I wrong on this?  Honest question
4/6/2015 11:42:25 PM EDT
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Take a cab your money stays in TX, Take Uber $1 plus 20% of your fare goes straight to Kalifornia.
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So my money can go to fucking up California instead of fucking up Texas? Win/win.



 
4/7/2015 6:08:05 AM EDT
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That makes absolutely no sense what so ever. You own firearms? That's a scary thought.
4/8/2015 4:37:07 PM EDT
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As a chauffeur for one of the largest Black Car services worldwide, I say fuck Uber.

They're taking money out of my pocket, and don't have to pass anywhere near the amount of stringent background checks and licensing that I do.
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No they aren't.    They're taking money from people who want to give it to them.

And they have to pass the same kind of background checks and licensing that the 99.999% of drivers you share the road with do.
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As a driver of buses, I say fuck black car services.

They're taking money out of my pocket, and don't have to pass anywhere near the amount of stringent background checks and licensing that I do.
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As a driver of buses, I say fuck black car services.

They're taking money out of my pocket, and don't have to pass anywhere near the amount of stringent background checks and licensing that I do.
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As a chauffeur for one of the largest Black Car services worldwide, I say fuck Uber.

They're taking money out of my pocket, and don't have to pass anywhere near the amount of stringent background checks and licensing that I do.


As a driver of buses, I say fuck black car services.

They're taking money out of my pocket, and don't have to pass anywhere near the amount of stringent background checks and licensing that I do.


I bet serial killers  pick up hitchhikers too , hate you both.
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They're taking money out of my pocket, and don't have to pass anywhere near the amount of stringent background checks and licensing that I do.
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As a chauffeur for one of the largest Black Car services worldwide, I say fuck Uber.

They're taking money out of my pocket, and don't have to pass anywhere near the amount of stringent background checks and licensing that I do.


As a driver of buses, I say fuck black car services.

They're taking money out of my pocket, and don't have to pass anywhere near the amount of stringent background checks and licensing that I do.



I also drive buses, scooter. Now what?
4/8/2015 10:17:33 PM EDT
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Anybody that has taken a cab more than once in Houston will definitely be pro Uber.

I've had CC numbers stolen by Houston cab drivers, ridden in dozens of cabs that stink so bad my eyes water, sat in the middle of airport taxis lane while the non-English speaking driver tries to program his GPS to find a major landmark, had idiots drive right past the HOV entrance at 7:45 in the morning, been in freezing cabs with no heat and cabs without ac in July.

This is long overdue.
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I also drive buses, scooter. Now what?
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As a chauffeur for one of the largest Black Car services worldwide, I say fuck Uber.

They're taking money out of my pocket, and don't have to pass anywhere near the amount of stringent background checks and licensing that I do.


As a driver of buses, I say fuck black car services.

They're taking money out of my pocket, and don't have to pass anywhere near the amount of stringent background checks and licensing that I do.



I also drive buses, scooter. Now what?


How'd you know my name is scooter? You stalking me? Yes! I finally have a stalker! I so hope you're a hot chick.
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How'd you know my name is scooter? You stalking me? Yes! I finally have a stalker! I so hope you're a hot chick.
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As a chauffeur for one of the largest Black Car services worldwide, I say fuck Uber.

They're taking money out of my pocket, and don't have to pass anywhere near the amount of stringent background checks and licensing that I do.


As a driver of buses, I say fuck black car services.

They're taking money out of my pocket, and don't have to pass anywhere near the amount of stringent background checks and licensing that I do.








I also drive buses, scooter. Now what?


How'd you know my name is scooter? You stalking me? Yes! I finally have a stalker! I so hope you're a hot chick.


Well, I DO have a decent sized set of boo... Err, moobs