[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Dear OCT (Page 1 of 2)
Posted: 7/3/2014 7:52:26 AM EDT
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Please stop. If you truly mean well, your efforts are energizing the wrong base.
The media is not on your side. You come across as unapologetic, disconnected, and dangerous in the eyes of the vocal liberal side. I believe we should have the option to open carry, but too many people are getting the wrong message. Please consider that you may be setting the movement back versus bringing up an honest debate. We are getting more setbacks than victories. You have to see that... Thanks |
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Has any of the Open Carry Texas leadership ever addressed or answered all the mounting criticism of their operations?
I'm hearing lots of complaints and very little support for them. All I've heard from the Open Carry people is how gun owners who don't support them are freedom hating, constitution hating commies that hate the 2nd amendment. |
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Has any of the Open Carry Texas leadership ever addressed or answered all the mounting criticism of their operations? I'm hearing lots of complaints and very little support for them. All I've heard from the Open Carry people is how gun owners who don't support them are freedom hating, constitution hating commies that hate the 2nd amendment. Go post on their forums/websites if you want them to answer. Complaining here does little good. |
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Go post on their forums/websites if you want them to answer. Complaining here does little good. Well excuse the hell out of me. I'm sorry my post qualifies as a complaint and doesn't meet your expectations. I just ask the question out of curiosity. I was not aware they have a website and I have no reason to visit there. Are you one of those carrying rifles in public places? You sound like it. |
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I just went to http://www.opencarrytexas.org/
Their "Mission Statement" reads just like the Communist Manifesto. They want to condition Texans to feel safe? Nobody "conditions" my thought process. I knew there was a reason I didn't feel right about what they're doing. Sounds like they're trying to force their will on society, whether society agrees with it or not. Sounds like social engineering. Our Mission: 1) To educate all Texans about their right to openly carry rifles and shotguns in a safe manner. 2) To condition Texans to feel safe around law-abiding citizens that choose to carry them. 3) Encourage our elected officials to pass less restrictive open carry legislation. (4) Foster a cooperative relationship with local law enforcement in the furtherance of these goals with an eyetowards preventing negative encounters. |
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Things are working out just fine.
I can still carry concealed into Target, but now I do not have to worry about getting muzzle swept by snow boots and his OCT friends. May I suggest OCT carry at Best Buy, HD/Lowes, Brookshires? Maybe they can get OC banned there too and I will have to worry about seeing them in any of those places either. |
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Well excuse the hell out of me. I'm sorry my post qualifies as a complaint and doesn't meet your expectations. I just ask the question out of curiosity. I was not aware they have a website and I have no reason to visit there. Are you one of those carrying rifles in public places? You sound like it. Quoted:
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Go post on their forums/websites if you want them to answer. Complaining here does little good. Well excuse the hell out of me. I'm sorry my post qualifies as a complaint and doesn't meet your expectations. I just ask the question out of curiosity. I was not aware they have a website and I have no reason to visit there. Are you one of those carrying rifles in public places? You sound like it. I think he was pointing out you are preaching to the choir. |
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Has any of the Open Carry Texas leadership ever addressed or answered all the mounting criticism of their operations? I'm hearing lots of complaints and very little support for them. All I've heard from the Open Carry people is how gun owners who don't support them are freedom hating, constitution hating commies that hate the 2nd amendment. Quoted:
Has any of the Open Carry Texas leadership ever addressed or answered all the mounting criticism of their operations? I'm hearing lots of complaints and very little support for them. All I've heard from the Open Carry people is how gun owners who don't support them are freedom hating, constitution hating commies that hate the 2nd amendment. This: http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2014/07/robert-farago/open-carry-texas-responds-targets-gun-ban/#more-327440 Open Carry Texas is laser focused on our statewide goals of making Texas the 45th state to recognize the right to openly carry firearms and the 32nd to do so without a licensing requirement. Engaging in the businesses of interfering with or making a scene at private corporations is something to which Open Carry Texas has never lowered itself, a practice we will maintain. |
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Things are working out just fine. I can still carry concealed into Target, but now I do not have to worry about getting muzzle swept by snow boots and his OCT friends. May I suggest OCT carry at Best Buy, HD/Lowes, Brookshires? Maybe they can get OC banned there too and I will have to worry about seeing them in any of those places either. Open carry was already banned by TABC code at Brookshires and Target since they sell alcohol. I don't know why OCT doesn't seem to know that. Anywhere you see the TABC "blue sign" properly posted open carry can't be permitted by the licensee or they risk punishment by TABC up to and including losing their liquor license. And of course anywhere you see the TABC "red sign" (51%) properly posted both open and concealed carry is prohibited. I've wondered all along if OCT wants to hold a rally/demonstration, whatever they want to call it, why can't they do it at some public place like a park or they could get a parade permit and march up Congress Ave or something... I don't see why they are bringing in businesses who have no vested interest in the debate. Especially ones that really are not permitted to allow open carry anyway due to TABC code. |
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Well excuse the hell out of me. I'm sorry my post qualifies as a complaint and doesn't meet your expectations. I just ask the question out of curiosity. I was not aware they have a website and I have no reason to visit there. Are you one of those carrying rifles in public places? You sound like it. Quoted:
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Go post on their forums/websites if you want them to answer. Complaining here does little good. Well excuse the hell out of me. I'm sorry my post qualifies as a complaint and doesn't meet your expectations. I just ask the question out of curiosity. I was not aware they have a website and I have no reason to visit there. Are you one of those carrying rifles in public places? You sound like it. You've stated multiple times, I think every OCT thread in HTF, your position - we get it. I think arguing about this on a public gun forum is counter productive and many have grown tired of these constant threads reappearing with the same usual suspects. |
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Things are working out just fine. I can still carry concealed into Target, but now I do not have to worry about getting muzzle swept by snow boots and his OCT friends. May I suggest OCT carry at Best Buy, HD/Lowes, Brookshires? Maybe they can get OC banned there too and I will have to worry about seeing them in any of those places either.  
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The strongest tactic and tool the anti gun crowd are using is division among gun owners. Energy wasted paying attention\criticizing these Open Cary folks is energy we should be using to push forward. Let this story die. Stop bringing it up. Call your legislators and show your support for all 2nd Amendment rights causes.  |
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The strongest tactic and tool the anti gun crowd are using is division among gun owners. Energy wasted paying attention\criticizing these Open Cary folks is energy we should be using to push forward. Let this story die. Stop bringing it up. Call your legislators and show your support for all 2nd Amendment rights causes. http://www.sevenbros.com/images/fuh-join.jpg Yours should have been the first post. |
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Let this story die. Stop bringing it up. Call your legislators and show your support for all 2nd Amendment rights causes. Too late for that. In case you haven't noticed, the other side is using it to their advantage to keep up the fight against the scary gun owners. For example their win this week by getting Target to ban open carry in all their stores. They won't be the last retailer to give in to the pressure. |
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Too late for that. In case you haven't noticed, the other side is using it to their advantage to keep up the fight against the scary gun owners. For example their win this week by getting Target to ban open carry in all their stores. They won't be the last retailer to give in to the pressure. Quoted:
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Let this story die. Stop bringing it up. Call your legislators and show your support for all 2nd Amendment rights causes. Too late for that. In case you haven't noticed, the other side is using it to their advantage to keep up the fight against the scary gun owners. For example their win this week by getting Target to ban open carry in all their stores. They won't be the last retailer to give in to the pressure. They won nothing. Target said this is not a ban, we just wish you wouldn't. Local law still in force. http://www.startribune.com/business/265535731.html |
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They won nothing. Target said this is not a ban, we just wish you wouldn't. Local law still in force. http://www.startribune.com/business/265535731.html Quoted:
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Let this story die. Stop bringing it up. Call your legislators and show your support for all 2nd Amendment rights causes. Too late for that. In case you haven't noticed, the other side is using it to their advantage to keep up the fight against the scary gun owners. For example their win this week by getting Target to ban open carry in all their stores. They won't be the last retailer to give in to the pressure. They won nothing. Target said this is not a ban, we just wish you wouldn't. Local law still in force. http://www.startribune.com/business/265535731.html Target isn't even an issue here in Texas, or shouldn't be anyway -- they sell alcohol. TABC rules state that they can't permit open carry or they risk up to losing their liquor license. Same for Wal-Mart, Same for H-E-B, 7-11, Chipotle, etc. Since none of those places are 51%, they can permit concealed carry (by not posting 30.06). |
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Has any of the Open Carry Texas leadership ever addressed or answered all the mounting criticism of their operations? I'm hearing lots of complaints and very little support for them. All I've heard from the Open Carry people is how gun owners who don't support them are freedom hating, constitution hating commies that hate the 2nd amendment. You also heard "Fuck me? No, fuck YOU". Trust me on this, the sentiment is there and it's heartfelt 
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Oh look! All the old guys cycles are synchronized! Gramps with cramps!. sewing hate and derision among gun owners since you were crapping in your pants and wiping it on your face!  Who are you directing this at? I posted sincere thoughts on this. It is not working the way OCT thinks it is. Change tactics, be less controversial, the media is not your friend. |
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Who are you directing this at? I posted sincere thoughts on this. It is not working the way OCT thinks it is. Change tactics, be less controversial, the media is not your friend. Quoted:
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Oh look! All the old guys cycles are synchronized! Gramps with cramps!. sewing hate and derision among gun owners since you were crapping in your pants and wiping it on your face! Who are you directing this at? I posted sincere thoughts on this. It is not working the way OCT thinks it is. Change tactics, be less controversial, the media is not your friend. Open carry dude, you made the' teener mad, bro. |
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Oh look! All the old guys cycles are synchronized! Gramps with cramps!. sewing hate and derision among gun owners since you were crapping in your pants and wiping it on your face! I called for your arrival 12 hours ago. What took you so long??? You are the perfect example of why everyone should buy a membership. They could then use the ignore feature. You should be my first, but your editorials are just too damn funny 
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I called for your arrival 12 hours ago. What took you so long??? You are the perfect example of why everyone should buy a membership. They could then use the ignore feature. You should be my first, but your editorials are just too damn funny Quoted:
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Oh look! All the old guys cycles are synchronized! Gramps with cramps!. sewing hate and derision among gun owners since you were crapping in your pants and wiping it on your face! I called for your arrival 12 hours ago. What took you so long??? You are the perfect example of why everyone should buy a membership. They could then use the ignore feature. You should be my first, but your editorials are just too damn funny Just what we need, another divisive 2A poser. |
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Just what we need, another divisive 2A poser. Quoted:
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Oh look! All the old guys cycles are synchronized! Gramps with cramps!. sewing hate and derision among gun owners since you were crapping in your pants and wiping it on your face! I called for your arrival 12 hours ago. What took you so long??? You are the perfect example of why everyone should buy a membership. They could then use the ignore feature. You should be my first, but your editorials are just too damn funny Just what we need, another divisive 2A poser. Blah, blah, blah
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I think a lot of open carry advocates are realizing the error of their ways and putting some distance between themselves and the Open Carry Texas disaster.
It's understandable that they've got egg on their faces and they're pissed. But, they're taking it out on the wrong people. Blaming the business's and other gun owners for the failure of Open Carry Texas is just plain wrong. |
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Oh look! All the old guys cycles are synchronized! Gramps with cramps!. sewing hate and derision among gun owners since you were crapping in your pants and wiping it on your face! I called for your arrival 12 hours ago. What took you so long??? You are the perfect example of why everyone should buy a membership. They could then use the ignore feature. You should be my first, but your editorials are just too damn funny Just what we need, another divisive 2A poser. Blah, blah, blah FWIW, I read that as "division 2A poser" and I thought, at least pretend you went to an awesome school! But then I see your rhetoric "Blah, blah, blah". Yeah, 2A is reaching for the stars for you 
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| What I was trying to get across is, here is another one of those 2A (as in 2nd amendment) posers, who believe the second amendment should state: The right of the people to keep an bear arms should not be infringed, but, and then they go on and list the things that scare them. |
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What I was trying to get across is, here is another one of those 2A (as in 2nd amendment) posers, who believe the second amendment should state: The right of the people to keep an bear arms should not be infringed, but, and then they go on and list the things that scare them. Yes, every one here gets you and Z: if you aren't pro:OCT, then you are anti-2nd A., pro gun control and pro MDA. You have personally attacked those that do not agree with your ideology. There is absolutely no reason to argue your ideology, as you two will never be swayed and will continue to call others anti 2nd A. posers. Go for it. Feel free to rant. No ignore list from me, you two are too entertaining! Carry on. Feel free to continue your personal attacks. |
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What I was trying to get across is, here is another one of those 2A (as in 2nd amendment) posers, who believe the second amendment should state: The right of the people to keep an bear arms should not be infringed, but, and then they go on and list the things that scare them. The only thing I'm afraid of is some idiot with an AR-15, who doesn't understand how inappropriate it is to carry that rifle into a public place against the wishes of that business and it's customers. How far is he willing to go in forcing me to accept his constitutional rights? The Open Carry people are publicly demonstrating the highest degree of bad judgement, and giving the public the impression that just maybe open carry is not a good idea. If open carry of rifles is made legal, can we expect to see people carrying assault rifles everywhere in public? And if the open carry of rifles was legal, who in their right friggin mind would carry one to the grocery store? We don't live in a war zone! If things were that bad, I'll bet that idiot would be too scared to even leave his mommies basement. This whole damn mess just doesn't make any sense. |
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The only thing that scares me is some idiot with an AR-15, who doesn't understand how inappropriate it is to carry that rifle into a public place against the wishes of that business and it's customers. How far is he willing to go in forcing me to accept his constitutional rights? The Open Carry people are publicly demonstrating the highest degree of bad judgement, and giving the public the impression that just maybe open carry is not a good idea. If open carry of rifles is made legal, can we expect to see people carrying assault rifles everywhere in public? And if the open carry of rifles was legal, who in their right friggin mind would carry one to the grocery store? We don't live in a war zone! If things were that bad, I'll bet that idiot would be too scared to even leave his mommies basement. This whole damn mess just doesn't make any sense. Quoted:
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What I was trying to get across is, here is another one of those 2A (as in 2nd amendment) posers, who believe the second amendment should state: The right of the people to keep an bear arms should not be infringed, but, and then they go on and list the things that scare them. The only thing that scares me is some idiot with an AR-15, who doesn't understand how inappropriate it is to carry that rifle into a public place against the wishes of that business and it's customers. How far is he willing to go in forcing me to accept his constitutional rights? The Open Carry people are publicly demonstrating the highest degree of bad judgement, and giving the public the impression that just maybe open carry is not a good idea. If open carry of rifles is made legal, can we expect to see people carrying assault rifles everywhere in public? And if the open carry of rifles was legal, who in their right friggin mind would carry one to the grocery store? We don't live in a war zone! If things were that bad, I'll bet that idiot would be too scared to even leave his mommies basement. This whole damn mess just doesn't make any sense. |
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What I was trying to get across is, here is another one of those 2A (as in 2nd amendment) posers, who believe the second amendment should state: The right of the people to keep an bear arms should not be infringed, but, and then they go on and list the things that scare them. The only thing that scares me is some idiot with an AR-15, who doesn't understand how inappropriate it is to carry that rifle into a public place against the wishes of that business and it's customers. How far is he willing to go in forcing me to accept his constitutional rights? The Open Carry people are publicly demonstrating the highest degree of bad judgement, and giving the public the impression that just maybe open carry is not a good idea. If open carry of rifles is made legal, can we expect to see people carrying assault rifles everywhere in public? And if the open carry of rifles was legal, who in their right friggin mind would carry one to the grocery store? We don't live in a war zone! If things were that bad, I'll bet that idiot would be too scared to even leave his mommies basement. This whole damn mess just doesn't make any sense. Open carry of rifles is legal in Texas. That's what started the whole OCT movement. While perfectly legal, most feel OCT has shown very poor judgement. What they failed to take into account was the fact that TABC licenses for the sale of any alcohol prohibit the open carry of firearms. Infractions will result in the retailer's loss of their license to sell alcohol. These retailers, such as Target, have no choice but to block open carry. Unfortunately what started as a Texas protest has gone national. Hopefully it will fade away soon! |
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The only thing I'm afraid of is some idiot with an AR-15, who doesn't understand how inappropriate it is to carry that rifle into a public place against the wishes of that business and it's customers. How does the person open carrying know the wishes of the business and its customers? How far is he willing to go in forcing me to accept his constitutional rights? How far are you willing to go to worship at the church of your choice? The Open Carry people are publicly demonstrating the highest degree of bad judgement, and giving the public the impression that just maybe open carry is not a good idea. Who decides what bad judgement is? If open carry of rifles is made legal, can we expect to see people carrying assault rifles everywhere in public? And if the open carry of rifles was legal, who in their right friggin mind would carry one to the grocery store? I could say this about those churches that play with snakes. We don't live in a war zone! If things were that bad, I'll bet that idiot would be too scared to even leave his mommies basement. This whole damn mess just doesn't make any sense. You people keep starting these threads. I haven't started an OC thread in several weeks. In fact, I don't plan on starting another one, until it passes. I think these threads are divisive and their only purpose is to keep firearms people at each others throats. With that in mind, you can form your own opinion of the OP. Quoted:
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What I was trying to get across is, here is another one of those 2A (as in 2nd amendment) posers, who believe the second amendment should state: The right of the people to keep an bear arms should not be infringed, but, and then they go on and list the things that scare them. The only thing I'm afraid of is some idiot with an AR-15, who doesn't understand how inappropriate it is to carry that rifle into a public place against the wishes of that business and it's customers. How does the person open carrying know the wishes of the business and its customers? How far is he willing to go in forcing me to accept his constitutional rights? How far are you willing to go to worship at the church of your choice? The Open Carry people are publicly demonstrating the highest degree of bad judgement, and giving the public the impression that just maybe open carry is not a good idea. Who decides what bad judgement is? If open carry of rifles is made legal, can we expect to see people carrying assault rifles everywhere in public? And if the open carry of rifles was legal, who in their right friggin mind would carry one to the grocery store? I could say this about those churches that play with snakes. We don't live in a war zone! If things were that bad, I'll bet that idiot would be too scared to even leave his mommies basement. This whole damn mess just doesn't make any sense. You people keep starting these threads. I haven't started an OC thread in several weeks. In fact, I don't plan on starting another one, until it passes. I think these threads are divisive and their only purpose is to keep firearms people at each others throats. With that in mind, you can form your own opinion of the OP. See my comments in red. |
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The only thing I'm afraid of is some idiot with an AR-15, who doesn't understand how inappropriate it is to carry that rifle into a public place against the wishes of that business and it's customers. How far is he willing to go in forcing me to accept his constitutional rights? The Open Carry people are publicly demonstrating the highest degree of bad judgement, and giving the public the impression that just maybe open carry is not a good idea. If open carry of rifles is made legal, can we expect to see people carrying assault rifles everywhere in public? And if the open carry of rifles was legal, who in their right friggin mind would carry one to the grocery store? We don't live in a war zone! If things were that bad, I'll bet that idiot would be too scared to even leave his mommies basement. This whole damn mess just doesn't make any sense. Quoted:
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What I was trying to get across is, here is another one of those 2A (as in 2nd amendment) posers, who believe the second amendment should state: The right of the people to keep an bear arms should not be infringed, but, and then they go on and list the things that scare them. The only thing I'm afraid of is some idiot with an AR-15, who doesn't understand how inappropriate it is to carry that rifle into a public place against the wishes of that business and it's customers. How far is he willing to go in forcing me to accept his constitutional rights? The Open Carry people are publicly demonstrating the highest degree of bad judgement, and giving the public the impression that just maybe open carry is not a good idea. If open carry of rifles is made legal, can we expect to see people carrying assault rifles everywhere in public? And if the open carry of rifles was legal, who in their right friggin mind would carry one to the grocery store? We don't live in a war zone! If things were that bad, I'll bet that idiot would be too scared to even leave his mommies basement. This whole damn mess just doesn't make any sense. Thanks for spelling out just exactly how anti-liberty you are. You take everything into account except the wishes of the individual and the fact that this a fundamental right. You are not just against open carry, you have serious, deep seeded issues. When I first read this post of yours, it was striking how it sounded like some of the anti-black rants from the 50's and 60's. Hell, are you Archie Bunker??? 
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Yes, every one here gets you and Z: if you aren't pro:OCT, then you are anti-2nd A., pro gun control and pro MDA. You have personally attacked those that do not agree with your ideology. There is absolutely no reason to argue your ideology, as you two will never be swayed and will continue to call others anti 2nd A. posers. Go for it. Feel free to rant. No ignore list from me, you two are too entertaining! Carry on. Feel free to continue your personal attacks. Quoted:
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What I was trying to get across is, here is another one of those 2A (as in 2nd amendment) posers, who believe the second amendment should state: The right of the people to keep an bear arms should not be infringed, but, and then they go on and list the things that scare them. Yes, every one here gets you and Z: if you aren't pro:OCT, then you are anti-2nd A., pro gun control and pro MDA. You have personally attacked those that do not agree with your ideology. There is absolutely no reason to argue your ideology, as you two will never be swayed and will continue to call others anti 2nd A. posers. Go for it. Feel free to rant. No ignore list from me, you two are too entertaining! Carry on. Feel free to continue your personal attacks. It's called conviction. But not the disqualifying kind. 
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Go post on their forums/websites if you want them to answer. Complaining here does little good. Quoted:
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Has any of the Open Carry Texas leadership ever addressed or answered all the mounting criticism of their operations? I'm hearing lots of complaints and very little support for them. All I've heard from the Open Carry people is how gun owners who don't support them are freedom hating, constitution hating commies that hate the 2nd amendment. Go post on their forums/websites if you want them to answer. Complaining here does little good. Does about as much good as complaining there from what I've seen. |
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Where does that attack on religion come from? Nobody's said anything about religion? You need to quit blaming the public and other gun owners and accept the fact that the Open Carry Texas crowd has done more harm than good. Quoted:
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See my comments in red. Where does that attack on religion come from? Nobody's said anything about religion? You need to quit blaming the public and other gun owners and accept the fact that the Open Carry Texas crowd has done more harm than good. The freedom of religion is a fundamental right, the same as the right to keep and bear arms. If I had used the right to criticize the Open Carry Texas, instead of religion would it have made more sense? It's a fundamental right also. You keep saying Open Carry Texas has caused more harm than good is a fact. Can you actually prove this? Exactly, how many 30.06 signs have been put up because of Open Carry Texas? You don't think a new gun rights organization coming on the scene, might be looked upon by other organizations as a threat, and their actions vilified in the press as a way to keep their position and power? |
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You keep saying Open Carry Texas has caused more harm than good is a fact. Can you actually prove this? 1. Most gun owners are against the aggressive tactics used by Open Carry Texas. 2. The group called Moms Demand Action for Gun Sense in America is working hard to oppose Open Carry Texas. 3. More and more business's are not allowing guns in their stores. 4. All the TV news reports have been critical of Open Carry Texas. 5. Open Carry Texas members have not presented themselves as responsible gun owners. They've show an open contempt for the rights, wishes and safety concerns of the non-gun public. 6. Practically every thread on gun websites always turns against the open carry people. 7. Open Carry Texas is making more and more enemies everyday when instead of backing off, they aggressively move forward saying they are going to educate the public into accepting guns. That's just another way of saying we're not going to stop until people quit complaining. 8. They're trying to force their 2nd amendment rights on the non-gun public. That will not end well for all gun owners. |
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1. Most gun owners are against the aggressive tactics used by Open Carry Texas. How do you know this? Are you conducting polls on this subject? 2. The group called Moms Demand Action for Gun Sense in America is working hard to oppose Open Carry Texas. The Brady Bunch have been trying the same thing for a couple of decades, so what. 3. More and more business's are not allowing guns in their stores. One chain store made a half-assed attempt to please both sides, and you are on here saying they are not allowing guns in their stores. Name a store that put up a 30.06 sign because of this? 4. All the TV news reports have been critical of Open Carry Texas. 
5. Open Carry Texas members have not presented themselves as responsible gun owners. They've show an open contempt for the rights, wishes and safety concerns of the non-gun public. Drag out the picture of the 2 clowns with the rifles. Go on, you know you want to. While you're at it, take a look at the background in that pic. Notice the 3 people standing at the register? None of them have that shocked look on their faces. None of them look like they care one way or another.
6. Practically every thread on gun websites always turns against the open carry people. The only people who start these threads are people like you and a couple of others. 7. Open Carry Texas is making more and more enemies everyday when instead of backing off, they aggressively move forward saying they are going to educate the public into accepting guns. That's just another way of saying we're not going to stop until people quit complaining. The only people I see complaining about it are the mom's wanting some action and people like you. 8. They're trying to force their 2nd amendment rights on the non-gun public. That will not end well for all gun owners. They don't have to force their rights on the non-gun public, they already have those rights. Quoted:
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You keep saying Open Carry Texas has caused more harm than good is a fact. Can you actually prove this? 1. Most gun owners are against the aggressive tactics used by Open Carry Texas. How do you know this? Are you conducting polls on this subject? 2. The group called Moms Demand Action for Gun Sense in America is working hard to oppose Open Carry Texas. The Brady Bunch have been trying the same thing for a couple of decades, so what. 3. More and more business's are not allowing guns in their stores. One chain store made a half-assed attempt to please both sides, and you are on here saying they are not allowing guns in their stores. Name a store that put up a 30.06 sign because of this? 4. All the TV news reports have been critical of Open Carry Texas.
5. Open Carry Texas members have not presented themselves as responsible gun owners. They've show an open contempt for the rights, wishes and safety concerns of the non-gun public. Drag out the picture of the 2 clowns with the rifles. Go on, you know you want to. While you're at it, take a look at the background in that pic. Notice the 3 people standing at the register? None of them have that shocked look on their faces. None of them look like they care one way or another.
6. Practically every thread on gun websites always turns against the open carry people. The only people who start these threads are people like you and a couple of others. 7. Open Carry Texas is making more and more enemies everyday when instead of backing off, they aggressively move forward saying they are going to educate the public into accepting guns. That's just another way of saying we're not going to stop until people quit complaining. The only people I see complaining about it are the mom's wanting some action and people like you. 8. They're trying to force their 2nd amendment rights on the non-gun public. That will not end well for all gun owners. They don't have to force their rights on the non-gun public, they already have those rights. You didn't actually prove anything. You made a bunch of baseless claims. Come on, you can do better than that. Try this, name some businesses that have put up 30.06 signs because of Open Carry Texas. |