Posted: 3/12/2013 6:30:16 AM EDT
| my background check just went to completed, so should have CHL in the mail soon. anyone know if it is possible to get a copy of the completed background check? curious to see what all it shows. |
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If there are not Feds at your door, obviously it doesn't show EVERYTHING... ;)
*edit* pulled the trigger early on this post... I doubt tyou can get a copy of the one run for your CHL, however, http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/background-checks |
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Not sure what kind of background checks they really do, other than a name check in databases. It's not like you applied for a security clearance and they actually investigated and questioned friends, family, past employers and neighbors. That's what I'm curious about. I know it's supposed to be more detailed/comprehensive than the NICS check you get when you purchase a gun. I certainly don't expect to see anything bad on it, but wondering what is there. It has to be fairly detailed since it took a month for my app to move from "pending background check review" to "completed background check review" |
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Not sure what kind of background checks they really do, other than a name check in databases. It's not like you applied for a security clearance and they actually investigated and questioned friends, family, past employers and neighbors. That's what I'm curious about. I know it's supposed to be more detailed/comprehensive than the NICS check you get when you purchase a gun. I certainly don't expect to see anything bad on it, but wondering what is there. It has to be fairly detailed since it took a month for my app to move from "pending background check review" to "completed background check review" You may be over-thinking this. I think it's more due to the fact that DPS has gotten a bit busier processing these because of the enormous increase in applicants. |
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Not sure what kind of background checks they really do, other than a name check in databases. It's not like you applied for a security clearance and they actually investigated and questioned friends, family, past employers and neighbors. That's what I'm curious about. I know it's supposed to be more detailed/comprehensive than the NICS check you get when you purchase a gun. I certainly don't expect to see anything bad on it, but wondering what is there. It has to be fairly detailed since it took a month for my app to move from "pending background check review" to "completed background check review" Don't confuse the term "detailed" with the speed of government bureaucracy. About 10 years ago, I had a low level background check done when I worked at DHS. I filled out the forms detailing everywhere I lived and worked since the day I was born. This was about 3 months prior to my hire date. Got hired, a year later I got called in to re-sign and re-date my background paperwork because it had sat on someone's desk too long for it to be official or something. It was like another 8 months later that I had actually gotten confirmation that my check was completed as well as who they had actually spoken to, the questions they had asked and their responses. Like all things government, it had been contracted out to a third party. |
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No, DPS will not give you a copy of your background check.
They send prints to the FBI, and send a DPS employee into the counties where you have lived and worked for the past 5 years. There they conduct a physical check of the criminal and civil records, as well as the tax offices. They also query the Attorney Generals Office. |
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Not sure what kind of background checks they really do, other than a name check in databases. It's not like you applied for a security clearance and they actually investigated and questioned friends, family, past employers and neighbors. That's what I'm curious about. I know it's supposed to be more detailed/comprehensive than the NICS check you get when you purchase a gun. I certainly don't expect to see anything bad on it, but wondering what is there. It has to be fairly detailed since it took a month for my app to move from "pending background check review" to "completed background check review" You know whats on it. Have you been arrested, charged or convicted of any crime? Are you under a protective order or restraining order? Have you ever? Delinquent on child support or taxes collected by any government entity in the state? |
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You know whats on it. Have you been arrested, charged or convicted of any crime? Are you under a protective order or restraining order? Have you ever? Delinquent on child support or taxes collected by any government entity in the state? lol, then i guess it's blank. i guess i was more curious about what they look for than the actual contents of my report, which would be nothing. |
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No, DPS will not give you a copy of your background check. They send prints to the FBI, and send a DPS employee into the counties where you have lived and worked for the past 5 years. There they conduct a physical check of the criminal and civil records, as well as the tax offices. They also query the Attorney Generals Office. What do they do when you have not lived in the U.S. for the last five years? |
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No, DPS will not give you a copy of your background check. They send prints to the FBI, and send a DPS employee into the counties where you have lived and worked for the past 5 years. There they conduct a physical check of the criminal and civil records, as well as the tax offices. They also query the Attorney Generals Office. What do they do when you have not lived in the U.S. for the last five years? Huh, hell if I know. |
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No, DPS will not give you a copy of your background check. They send prints to the FBI, and send a DPS employee into the counties where you have lived and worked for the past 5 years. There they conduct a physical check of the criminal and civil records, as well as the tax offices. They also query the Attorney Generals Office. How much of that is phone calls and computer searches? |
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No, DPS will not give you a copy of your background check. They send prints to the FBI, and send a DPS employee into the counties where you have lived and worked for the past 5 years. There they conduct a physical check of the criminal and civil records, as well as the tax offices. They also query the Attorney Generals Office. How much of that is phone calls and computer searches? Probably few. I have done backgrounds at the county level. Many still are not computerized, and those that are can be days to weeks to months behind. Most will not do backgrounds over the phone. They just don't have to do the staffing. DPS used to have to use certified Peace Officers, but now they can use any non sworn personnel. |
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Mine has been on back ground check for about a month. I'm not sure if I have my numbers correct or not but don't they have 30 days to complete this? well that makes me feel better i thought something was wrong lol guess ill have to wait when i get back from vacation 
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No, DPS will not give you a copy of your background check. They send prints to the FBI, and send a DPS employee into the counties where you have lived and worked for the past 5 years. There they conduct a physical check of the criminal and civil records, as well as the tax offices. They also query the Attorney Generals Office. What do they do when you have not lived in the U.S. for the last five years? Huh, hell if I know. Guess I'll find out in January. |
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Mine has been on back ground check for about a month. I'm not sure if I have my numbers correct or not but don't they have 30 days to complete this? Under 411(h) of the Government Code, DPS has 90 days from the date they receive your completed application to issue, deny or advise you they need more time. Once the Department sends your material to the designee to complete the background, they have 60 days. |
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I got a copy of mine when I got my CHL. As I recall there was an option somewhere in the online process where I could pay for a copy of the background check.
I don't think it came from DPS, though. It may have been the fingerprint company that the DPS site referred me to. |
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I got a copy of mine when I got my CHL. As I recall there was an option somewhere in the online process where I could pay for a copy of the background check. I don't think it came from DPS, though. It may have been the fingerprint company that the DPS site referred me to. You can pay for the same check you can do at any time on the DPS website, but that is far from the one they coduct when you apply for a CHL. You do not get a copy of that. |
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Mine has been on back ground check for about a month. I'm not sure if I have my numbers correct or not but don't they have 30 days to complete this? Under 411(h) of the Government Code, DPS has 90 days from the date they receive your completed application to issue, deny or advise you they need more time. Once the Department sends your material to the designee to complete the background, they have 60 days. Yeah I knew it was something like that just wasn't sure if it was 30/60/90 but either way I figure I'll get it when I get it. Its my fault for waiting so long anyway. I could really care less what this background check says. My clearence background check is a lot more intense and its always come back good so. |
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hey OP how long did it take for your background to complete? seems like me and my fiance have been in the background check going on 2 weeks and we have not had any issues with the law ever. Since I've been tracking this stuff: Jan 21 - Packet mailed Jan 23 - Packet Rec'd (delivery confirmation) Feb 11 - Update to CHL site showing materials rec'd and BG check pending Mar 12 - Update to BG check complete, pending manufacture Mar 13 - Update to manufacturing Mar 14 - Mailed I've never had an issue either. I have lived in 3 counties in the last 5 years though. Based on what txinvestigator said, that could result in a lot of leg work and could be why mine took a while. -bg74 |
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Mine has been on back ground check for about a month. I'm not sure if I have my numbers correct or not but don't they have 30 days to complete this? Under 411(h) of the Government Code, DPS has 90 days from the date they receive your completed application to issue, deny or advise you they need more time. Once the Department sends your material to the designee to complete the background, they have 60 days. they told me something different over the phone...believe they said 120 days, pretty sure the DPS CHL site said otherwise... but they had my background check for awhile...they approved me almost immediately after I called back to Michigan State Police and asked about how to find out about an Arrest from 15 years ago where I sued the city and had my record expunged...but the wording on the CHL application made it so I had to report it even though it 'never existed' I sent a suggestion to DPS to specifically state that expunged arrests should not be mentioned... I think they may have access to your Cell Phone via TAP or whatever you want to call it... Sent my papers in End of Oct. approved Jan 7th, 2013 I figured I'd have mine quicker than that due to my clean record and a current valid CPL for Michigan, that has been renewed as well... I thought wrong.... I wish the would issue a United States concealed carry card and then each state can endorse it as you qualify for each state...eliminates carrying multiple cards, saves manufacturing costs, probably speeds up background checks (should imo) they could even do an endorsement on a driver's license although I would be happy enough just to have a U.S. Concealed Carry Card and state endorsements on it! They could be done in the 'system' and not on the CARD.. they run the ID # and it tells what state is Officially endorsed in and what states offer reciprocity. I submitted my APP before the 'newtown' crap...took about 70 days total! Texas used to require 6 months of residency before a CHL could be issued, that has changed and I don't think the info on DPS CHL site was totally correct on that either, I called and asked before taking the CHL Class.. I also asked about do I report an arrest that was expunged, and the person agreed that the arrest did happen even if it was expunged so it should be reported, I also told him that I could remember the date, it was like 15 years ago, didn't want to not mention it and have it look like I was lying. I think it was something about a non-resident CHL versus a Resident CHL as far as 6 months and the confusion... they probably decided to 'waive' the no resident thing so they didn't have to reissue a new card once the 6 months was up..dunno... sorry about the mess with this whole posts.. I have a terrible headache right now |
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they told me something different over the phone...believe they said 120 days, pretty sure the DPS CHL site said otherwise... Not exactly. They have 90 days to issue, deny or tell you they need more time. The law restricts them to 6 months total, which is 180 days. Texas Government Code Sec. 411.176. REVIEW OF APPLICATION MATERIALS. (a) On receipt of application materials by the department at its Austin headquarters, the department shall conduct the appropriate criminal history record check of the applicant through its computerized criminal history system. Not later than the 30th day after the date the department receives the application materials, the department shall forward the materials to the director's designee in the geographical area of the applicant's residence so that the designee may conduct the investigation described by Subsection (b). For purposes of this section, the director's designee may be a noncommissioned employee of the department That means from the time DPS gets your application, they have 30 days to have it in the hands the person in the area where you live. So we are now at 30 days, capisce? (b) The director's designee as needed shall conduct an additional criminal history record check of the applicant and an investigation of the applicant's local official records to verify the accuracy of the application materials. The director's designee may access any records necessary for purposes of this subsection. The scope of the record check and the investigation are at the sole discretion of the department, except that the director's designee shall complete the record check and investigation not later than the 60th day after the date the department receives the application materials. The department shall send a fingerprint card to the Federal Bureau of Investigation for a national criminal history check of the applicant. On completion of the investigation, the director's designee shall return all materials and the result of the investigation to the appropriate division of the department at its Austin headquarters The designee has 60 days to do his investiagtion and notify Austin. So we are now at 90 days total . Sec. 411.177. ISSUANCE OR DENIAL OF LICENSE. (b) The department shall, not later than the 60th day after the date of the receipt by the director's designee of the completed application materials: (1) issue the license; (2) notify the applicant in writing that the application was denied: (A) on the grounds that the applicant failed to qualify under the criteria listed in Section 411.172; (B) based on the affidavit of the director's designee submitted to the department under Section 411.176(c); or (C) based on the affidavit of the qualified handgun instructor submitted to the department under Section 411.188(k); or (3) notify the applicant in writing that the department is unable to make a determination regarding the issuance or denial of a license to the applicant within the 60-day period prescribed by this subsection and include in that notification an explanation of the reason for the inability and an estimation of the amount of time the department will need to make the determination. (c) Failure of the department to issue or deny a license for a period of more than 30 days after the department is required to act under Subsection (b) constitutes denial. (d) A license issued under this subchapter is effective from the date of issuance So the dept has 60 days from the date the designee mention in 411.176 receives the material to issue, deny or tell you they need more time. but they had my background check for awhile...they approved me almost immediately after I called back to Michigan State Police and asked about how to find out about an Arrest from 15 years ago where I sued the city and had my record expunged...but the wording on the CHL application made it so I had to report it even though it 'never existed' I sent a suggestion to DPS to specifically state that expunged arrests should not be mentioned... I think they may have access to your Cell Phone via TAP or whatever you want to call it... Expunction means different things in different states, so DPS wants it included. And you think WHO has access to your cell phone, and what is TAP? Texas used to require 6 months of residency before a CHL could be issued, that has changed and I don't think the info on DPS CHL site was totally correct on that either, I called and asked before taking the CHL Class.. I also asked about do I report an arrest that was expunged, and the person agreed that the arrest did happen even if it was expunged so it should be reported, I also told him that I could remember the date, it was like 15 years ago, didn't want to not mention it and have it look like I was lying. I think it was something about a non-resident CHL versus a Resident CHL as far as 6 months and the confusion... they probably decided to 'waive' the no resident thing so they didn't have to reissue a new card once the 6 months was up..dunno... sorry about the mess with this whole posts.. I have a terrible headache right now
Texas has not effectively had a residency requirement for years now. If you are a resident of Texas for 6 months, move here with the intent to establish residency or live in another state, you meet the eligibility requirements. The time requirement DPS has under the law to process your application is not diffferent based on residency. DPS cannot arbitrarily decide to "waive" requirements. |
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No, DPS will not give you a copy of your background check. They send prints to the FBI, and send a DPS employee into the counties where you have lived and worked for the past 5 years. There they conduct a physical check of the criminal and civil records, as well as the tax offices. They also query the Attorney Generals Office. How much of that is phone calls and computer searches? Probably few. I have done backgrounds at the county level. Many still are not computerized, and those that are can be days to weeks to months behind. Most will not do backgrounds over the phone. They just don't have to do the staffing. DPS used to have to use certified Peace Officers, but now they can use any non sworn personnel. That seems largely inefficient. 254 counties. Even if you had one guy responsible for 4 or 5 counties or even 10 depending on how rural they are, that's a lot of personnel. |
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No, DPS will not give you a copy of your background check. They send prints to the FBI, and send a DPS employee into the counties where you have lived and worked for the past 5 years. There they conduct a physical check of the criminal and civil records, as well as the tax offices. They also query the Attorney Generals Office. How much of that is phone calls and computer searches? Probably few. I have done backgrounds at the county level. Many still are not computerized, and those that are can be days to weeks to months behind. Most will not do backgrounds over the phone. They just don't have to do the staffing. DPS used to have to use certified Peace Officers, but now they can use any non sworn personnel. Yeah, I agree. don't see any other way to do with the inefficiencies the counties have in record keeping. That seems largely inefficient. 254 counties. Even if you had one guy responsible for 4 or 5 counties or even 10 depending on how rural they are, that's a lot of personnel. |
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but they had my background check for awhile...they approved me almost immediately after I called back to Michigan State Police and asked about how to find out about an Arrest from 15 years ago where I sued the city and had my record expunged...but the wording on the CHL application made it so I had to report it even though it 'never existed' I sent a suggestion to DPS to specifically state that expunged arrests should not be mentioned... I think they may have access to your Cell Phone via TAP or whatever you want to call it... Expunction means different things in different states, so DPS wants it included. And you think WHO has access to your cell phone, and what is TAP? Texas used to require 6 months of residency before a CHL could be issued, that has changed and I don't think the info on DPS CHL site was totally correct on that either, I called and asked before taking the CHL Class.. I also asked about do I report an arrest that was expunged, and the person agreed that the arrest did happen even if it was expunged so it should be reported, I also told him that I could remember the date, it was like 15 years ago, didn't want to not mention it and have it look like I was lying. I think it was something about a non-resident CHL versus a Resident CHL as far as 6 months and the confusion... they probably decided to 'waive' the no resident thing so they didn't have to reissue a new card once the 6 months was up..dunno... sorry about the mess with this whole posts.. I have a terrible headache right now
Texas has not effectively had a residency requirement for years now. If you are a resident of Texas for 6 months, move here with the intent to establish residency or live in another state, you meet the eligibility requirements. The time requirement DPS has under the law to process your application is not diffferent based on residency. DPS cannot arbitrarily decide to "waive" requirements. Well put it this way, I know the GOVERNMENT has the ability to see/hear all you do on your 'Smart Phone' I called DPS and asked about my CHL as the Sergeant told me to do at the 60 day mark if you didn't receive it yet or if the status was not completed and approved by that point, the Lady said that they were waiting on the Background Check and that they may send me out some paperwork about my Arrest asking for more Details, I told her that I didn't know any more details as it was about 15 years ago and I got it expunged, I didn't keep any records as it was 15 years ago! I had checked my CHL status just before calling. Then I did a Google of expungement and Michigan and it brought me to a Michigan State Police phone number which I called. The Lady at the Michigan State Police asked for some info and then Ran it through the system, she informed me that there was nothing showing on her end so she wouldn't be able to give me a date of the arrest and said that if the DPS called that she would tell them the same thing. I asked about there being any way for me to find out when I was arrested and she said, if it's expunged there wouldn't be any record. I asked if the Court would still have a record even if it was expunged and she said it was possible but I would have to know the court that I went to and then call them. I asked her if there was anyway that the arrest record would show as part of my 'history' in say an FBI Profile but then show as expunged...she seemed to believe that expunged means "NEVER HAPPENED".... after I got off the phone with her... I went got some food and my mail....while I was eating I checked my Status again and it said Background Check: Completed and the next day it said something like Manufacturing Pending. That is why I believe they have a 'TAP' aka access to my smart phone and were listening to my conversation to the Michigan State Police (MSP)... I guess you could say that maybe because I called and asked about my CHL that they then did the very same thing themselves due to the call, I can't believe they would send anyone to Michigan to run my background check. I don't really know what happened on their end to get my CHL approved shortly after my inquiry, but it was approved quickly AFTER my call to the DPS and to the MSP. If the arrest was about 15 years ago and it was expunged is it still relevant? If the applicant has since been approved for a CCW (Concealed Weapons Permit) in the state that the arrest was in and subsequently been renewed to a CPL (Concealed Pistol License) in the same state that the expunged arrest was in is it still relevant? Seems as though Michigan's permits are recognized by MORE states than Texas as far as Reciprocity, so knowing that the record was expunged and that Michigan approved me 'twice' it seems irrelevant to include a 15 year old expunged record! I believe I also suggested that they might only include expunged arrests that happened in the last 7 years, or 'serious' arrests. I am pretty sure I included somewhere in my application that I have been approved for a michigan CCW/CPL since the arrest. As to the residency thing, I know Texas 'changed' the residency requirement, it 'used' to be that you had to get a non-residency permit unless you lived here 6-months. What I meant by 'waive' is that they 'changed' the rule because so many people moved here to live here permanently and they applied for a non-resident and they got it, then 6-months came and they had to call about a resident permit, or they got pulled over by a cop and asked why they had a non-resident permit if they were a resident..etc. I read some information on the DPS site and in the Texas Government Code and there was two conflicting pieces of information. The Texas DPS site had not been updated to reflect the 'intent to establish residency' change. Not sure if the DPS site has been updated yet or not. If the arrest was about 15 years ago and it was expunged is it still relevant? If the applicant has since been approved for a CCW (Concealed Weapons Permit) in the state that the arrest was in and subsequently been renewed to a CPL (Concealed Pistol License) in the same state that the expunged arrest was in is it still relevant? Seems as though Michigan's permits are recognized by MORE states than Texas as far as Reciprocity, so knowing that the record was expunged and that Michigan approved me 'twice' it seems irrelevant to include a 15 year old expunged record! |
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... Well put it this way, I know the GOVERNMENT has the ability to see/hear all you do on your 'Smart Phone' ..... That is why I believe they have a 'TAP' aka access to my smart phone and were listening to my conversation to the Michigan State Police (MSP)... ... And people accuse ME of being paranoid! Wheeeee... tinfoil hat time. Yes, I'm sure that if they want they can tap any phone lines... but they certainly don't have the resources to tap everyone who has a current CHL app in or something... That could be thousands of people at any given time... And certainly if they were doing that routinely for something that innocuous they'd be doing it for all kinds of other things and they'd have to be tapping tens if not hundreds of thousands of lines every second... Not feasible. FWIW, if they've got a tap on your line... it probably means you are up to no good. And if your CHL is going through, that isn't likely... Seriously... loosen that hat band up a little, its cutting off the circulation to your head or something... |
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but they had my background check for awhile...they approved me almost immediately after I called back to Michigan State Police and asked about how to find out about an Arrest from 15 years ago where I sued the city and had my record expunged...but the wording on the CHL application made it so I had to report it even though it 'never existed' I sent a suggestion to DPS to specifically state that expunged arrests should not be mentioned... I think they may have access to your Cell Phone via TAP or whatever you want to call it... Expunction means different things in different states, so DPS wants it included. And you think WHO has access to your cell phone, and what is TAP? Texas used to require 6 months of residency before a CHL could be issued, that has changed and I don't think the info on DPS CHL site was totally correct on that either, I called and asked before taking the CHL Class.. I also asked about do I report an arrest that was expunged, and the person agreed that the arrest did happen even if it was expunged so it should be reported, I also told him that I could remember the date, it was like 15 years ago, didn't want to not mention it and have it look like I was lying. I think it was something about a non-resident CHL versus a Resident CHL as far as 6 months and the confusion... they probably decided to 'waive' the no resident thing so they didn't have to reissue a new card once the 6 months was up..dunno... sorry about the mess with this whole posts.. I have a terrible headache right now
Texas has not effectively had a residency requirement for years now. If you are a resident of Texas for 6 months, move here with the intent to establish residency or live in another state, you meet the eligibility requirements. The time requirement DPS has under the law to process your application is not diffferent based on residency. DPS cannot arbitrarily decide to "waive" requirements. Well put it this way, I know the GOVERNMENT has the ability to see/hear all you do on your 'Smart Phone' I called DPS and asked about my CHL as the Sergeant told me to do at the 60 day mark if you didn't receive it yet or if the status was not completed and approved by that point, the Lady said that they were waiting on the Background Check and that they may send me out some paperwork about my Arrest asking for more Details, I told her that I didn't know any more details as it was about 15 years ago and I got it expunged, I didn't keep any records as it was 15 years ago! I had checked my CHL status just before calling. Then I did a Google of expungement and Michigan and it brought me to a Michigan State Police phone number which I called. The Lady at the Michigan State Police asked for some info and then Ran it through the system, she informed me that there was nothing showing on her end so she wouldn't be able to give me a date of the arrest and said that if the DPS called that she would tell them the same thing. I asked about there being any way for me to find out when I was arrested and she said, if it's expunged there wouldn't be any record. I asked if the Court would still have a record even if it was expunged and she said it was possible but I would have to know the court that I went to and then call them. I asked her if there was anyway that the arrest record would show as part of my 'history' in say an FBI Profile but then show as expunged...she seemed to believe that expunged means "NEVER HAPPENED".... after I got off the phone with her... I went got some food and my mail....while I was eating I checked my Status again and it said Background Check: Completed and the next day it said something like Manufacturing Pending. That is why I believe they have a 'TAP' aka access to my smart phone and were listening to my conversation to the Michigan State Police (MSP)... I guess you could say that maybe because I called and asked about my CHL that they then did the very same thing themselves due to the call, I can't believe they would send anyone to Michigan to run my background check. I don't really know what happened on their end to get my CHL approved shortly after my inquiry, but it was approved quickly AFTER my call to the DPS and to the MSP. yeah, they were listening to your conversation. They always are. Probably TAP your computer and brain as well. Be very careful.
If the arrest was about 15 years ago and it was expunged is it still relevant? If the applicant has since been approved for a CCW (Concealed Weapons Permit) in the state that the arrest was in and subsequently been renewed to a CPL (Concealed Pistol License) in the same state that the expunged arrest was in is it still relevant? Seems as though Michigan's permits are recognized by MORE states than Texas as far as Reciprocity, so knowing that the record was expunged and that Michigan approved me 'twice' it seems irrelevant to include a 15 year old expunged record! I believe I also suggested that they might only include expunged arrests that happened in the last 7 years, or 'serious' arrests. I am pretty sure I included somewhere in my application that I have been approved for a michigan CCW/CPL since the arrest. As to the residency thing, I know Texas 'changed' the residency requirement, it 'used' to be that you had to get a non-residency permit unless you lived here 6-months. What I meant by 'waive' is that they 'changed' the rule because so many people moved here to live here permanently and they applied for a non-resident and they got it, then 6-months came and they had to call about a resident permit, or they got pulled over by a cop and asked why they had a non-resident permit if they were a resident..etc. I read some information on the DPS site and in the Texas Government Code and there was two conflicting pieces of information. The Texas DPS site had not been updated to reflect the 'intent to establish residency' change. Not sure if the DPS site has been updated yet or not. Well, now you know you thought wrong. Also, I am not happy with what you said on your Smart Phone earlier. I understand your point, but you should be more careful. |
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Also, I am not happy with what you said on your Smart Phone earlier. I understand your point, but you should be more careful. It was posted on the main page of YAHOO.com and FACEBOOK.com it's common knowledge as far as I am concerned.. common if you keep up with any major headlines. They have a database/server..everyone's phone runs through it...they pick up on keywords, etc... Homeland Security/Patriot Act basically 'KILLED' all rights to PRIVACY... Technology, isn't it wonderful... ;) |
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Also, I am not happy with what you said on your Smart Phone earlier. I understand your point, but you should be more careful. It was posted on the main page of YAHOO.com and FACEBOOK.com it's common knowledge as far as I am concerned.. common if you keep up with any major headlines. They have a database/server..everyone's phone runs through it...they pick up on keywords, etc... Homeland Security/Patriot Act basically 'KILLED' all rights to PRIVACY... Technology, isn't it wonderful... ;)  
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And he wonders why he gets headaches.
I once had someone try to convince me that "they" could tell exactly how much cash you were carrying by using the embedded magnetic strips in each bill. Maybe this "tin foil hat" paranoia is a good thing - it probably keeps people reasonably honest if they think big brother is watching/hearing all. EDIT - I got my CHL in less than 2 weeks after I submitted my packet. |
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wow, my thread has gotten derailed. However, before you jump on someone too hard for paranoia, it's also important to know what your government is doing with your tax dollars...Try this article from a few months back on Wired to see just what the NSA, et al. are up to in the desert these days... Considering what was available for this article is spooky enough, the real details are probably worse...
http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2012/03/ff_nsadatacenter/all/ that said, loosen your hat a little 
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And he wonders why he gets headaches. I once had someone try to convince me that "they" could tell exactly how much cash you were carrying by using the embedded magnetic strips in each bill. Maybe this "tin foil hat" paranoia is a good thing - it probably keeps people reasonably honest if they think big brother is watching/hearing all. EDIT - I got my CHL in less than 2 weeks after I submitted my packet. You guys must live in a 'protective little bubble' if you aren't aware of how Smart Phone Technology Works, How easily your phone can be used 'in REVERSE'... I mean really...you don't read the news much do ya. I read most articles on Yahoo, DAYS before they appear in a newpaper...and there are other sources, Google News, CNN, etc... I suppose Light Bulb Cameras are not legit either, just another paranoid delusion... LOL I don't wonder why I get headaches, I know why I get headaches |
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And he wonders why he gets headaches. I once had someone try to convince me that "they" could tell exactly how much cash you were carrying by using the embedded magnetic strips in each bill. Maybe this "tin foil hat" paranoia is a good thing - it probably keeps people reasonably honest if they think big brother is watching/hearing all. EDIT - I got my CHL in less than 2 weeks after I submitted my packet. You guys must live in a 'protective little bubble' if you aren't aware of how Smart Phone Technology Works, How easily your phone can be used 'in REVERSE'... I mean really...you don't read the news much do ya. I read most articles on Yahoo, DAYS before they appear in a newpaper...and there are other sources, Google News, CNN, etc... I suppose Light Bulb Cameras are not legit either, just another paranoid delusion... LOL I don't wonder why I get headaches, I know why I get headaches Entertainment Value..."priceless"!!!! |
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And he wonders why he gets headaches. I once had someone try to convince me that "they" could tell exactly how much cash you were carrying by using the embedded magnetic strips in each bill. Maybe this "tin foil hat" paranoia is a good thing - it probably keeps people reasonably honest if they think big brother is watching/hearing all. EDIT - I got my CHL in less than 2 weeks after I submitted my packet. You guys must live in a 'protective little bubble' if you aren't aware of how Smart Phone Technology Works, How easily your phone can be used 'in REVERSE'... I mean really...you don't read the news much do ya. I read most articles on Yahoo, DAYS before they appear in a newpaper...and there are other sources, Google News, CNN, etc... I suppose Light Bulb Cameras are not legit either, just another paranoid delusion... LOL I don't wonder why I get headaches, I know why I get headaches Alright, now I am convinced you are trolling. What's the best place to get a tin foil deflector beanie? |
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Yes, he can't be real because he didn't mention the biggest government/industry collusion regarding cell phones - battery packs that cannot be removed so that the phones can never really be turned off. Always-on tracking using the built in GPS.
Ooops - I just gave him another headache. This will be the last tidbit I feed the troll... |
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Yes, he can't be real because he didn't mention the biggest government/industry collusion regarding cell phones - battery packs that cannot be removed so that the phones can never really be turned off. Always-on tracking using the built in GPS. Ooops - I just gave him another headache. This will be the last tidbit I feed the troll... Not a head-ache for me at all. Easy way to avoid that if you wanted or needed to is to NOT BUY that phone, or to not carry a phone with you at all...but I have no worries about any of that... I got a JOB and I EARN my living LEGIT!!! Man you guys are ridiculous...seriously...READ THE NEWS..LEARN SOMETHING!!! If I was 'worried' about my smartphone spying on me I wouldn't buy one...end derp!!! My battery can be removed, if anything gives me a headache on these forums it's the ignorance/stupidity... trying to lower myself to the level of some people is a major headache inducer! I own property and still pay utilities in michigan, so my CPL never expired even by law though it NEVER expires according to the 3 Texas Cops I talked to, they all said I have reciprocity...so the 70 day wait for a Texas CHL was a joke if anything... my CPL doesn't expire for years! I figured I'd get a 'jump' on it because there may be some laws that are different and a possible delay, and I'd rather not legally defend myself and then have an attorney General tell me that the 3 police officers that told me my CPL is valid in texas were WRONG!!! |
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Yes, he can't be real because he didn't mention the biggest government/industry collusion regarding cell phones - battery packs that cannot be removed so that the phones can never really be turned off. Always-on tracking using the built in GPS. Ooops - I just gave him another headache. This will be the last tidbit I feed the troll... Not a head-ache for me at all. Easy way to avoid that if you wanted or needed to is to NOT BUY that phone, or to not carry a phone with you at all...but I have no worries about any of that... I got a JOB and I EARN my living LEGIT!!! Man you guys are ridiculous...seriously...READ THE NEWS..LEARN SOMETHING!!! If I was 'worried' about my smartphone spying on me I wouldn't buy one...end derp!!! My battery can be removed, if anything gives me a headache on these forums it's the ignorance/stupidity... trying to lower myself to the level of some people is a major headache inducer! I own property and still pay utilities in michigan, so my CPL never expired even by law though it NEVER expires according to the 3 Texas Cops I talked to, they all said I have reciprocity...so the 70 day wait for a Texas CHL was a joke if anything... my CPL doesn't expire for years! I figured I'd get a 'jump' on it because there may be some laws that are different and a possible delay, and I'd rather not legally defend myself and then have an attorney General tell me that the 3 police officers that told me my CPL is valid in texas were WRONG!!! OH MY GOD. PLEASE STOP. Don't write about ignorance and stupidity here. |
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Yes, he can't be real because he didn't mention the biggest government/industry collusion regarding cell phones - battery packs that cannot be removed so that the phones can never really be turned off. Always-on tracking using the built in GPS. Ooops - I just gave him another headache. This will be the last tidbit I feed the troll... Not a head-ache for me at all. Easy way to avoid that if you wanted or needed to is to NOT BUY that phone, or to not carry a phone with you at all...but I have no worries about any of that... I got a JOB and I EARN my living LEGIT!!! Man you guys are ridiculous...seriously...READ THE NEWS..LEARN SOMETHING!!! If I was 'worried' about my smartphone spying on me I wouldn't buy one...end derp!!! My battery can be removed, if anything gives me a headache on these forums it's the ignorance/stupidity... trying to lower myself to the level of some people is a major headache inducer! I own property and still pay utilities in michigan, so my CPL never expired even by law though it NEVER expires according to the 3 Texas Cops I talked to, they all said I have reciprocity...so the 70 day wait for a Texas CHL was a joke if anything... my CPL doesn't expire for years! I figured I'd get a 'jump' on it because there may be some laws that are different and a possible delay, and I'd rather not legally defend myself and then have an attorney General tell me that the 3 police officers that told me my CPL is valid in texas were WRONG!!! OH MY GOD. PLEASE STOP. Don't write about ignorance and stupidity here. Which part is ignorant or stupid.. took 2 minutes to find a recent article....there have been numerous articles on yahoo about the warrantless data tracking/hacking/spying/etc http://www.slate.com/blogs/future_tense/2013/03/05/texas_bill_takes_on_warrantless_cellphone_tracking.html and AGAIN with another YAHOO FRONT PAGE IMAGE HEADLINE http://news.yahoo.com/federal-judge-rules-surveillance-provisions-unconstitutional-001457869--finance.html 
I speak the TRUTH and then Yahoo backs me up!!! ;) |