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Posted: 6/7/2012 1:48:36 PM EDT
Any other die hard Rangers fans here? These past few weeks has really bummed me out! And it looks like Darvish is following suit and sucking it up today
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I don't know what to expect from them now, it started out sooooo well!!! I'm just hoping Oswald gets here quickly and does good, I can't handle another Fieldman outing  No fucking shit. He looked great last year when he finally came back healthy from his knee problems and I thought he'd give somebody a run for their rotation spot at some point this year. Nope, he apparently wants to sell cable/internet packages door to door instead of play major league baseball. |
and we have start one with the Giants good chance we could lose the lead quickly if we keep this up
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I don't understand the questions about Scott Coolbaugh. The guys stared the first 19 games of the season hitting unbelievable and now they have cooled off, and so that is his fault? Don't think so. You do realize that the hitting couldn't feasibly continue at the rate it was right?
It is a LONG season, we are only through 58 of the the 162 scheduled games. Its just now June, every team hits a rough patch, at least over the past month of baseball we have only lost 1.5 games in the division lead. Now should we of extended the lead when the whole rest of the division is doing bad as well, yes, but we didn't and still almost kept the same lead. I'm a numbers guy myself, so here goes.... Compare 2011 to 2012: April 24, 2011 - 14-7 April 26, 2012 - 15-4 April 30, 2011 - 16-11 (1 game lead) April 30, 2012 - 17-6 (6.5 game lead) May 31, 2011 - 29-26 (0.5 game lead) May 31, 2012 - 31-20 (5.5 game lead) June 8, 2011 - 35-28 (2.5 game lead) - 0.5556 winning % - 0.6061 home winning %, 0.50 away winning % June 8, 2012 - 33-25 (4 game lead) - 0.5689 winning % - 0.5769 home winning %, 0.5625 away winning % April 12 to May 27, 2011 - 17-24, .251 team batting average, 4.05 team ERA After starting off 15-4 - 18-21, .276 team batting average, 4.33 team ERA So basically..... it's not time to make any drastic moves or worry about the Rangers not making the playoffs yet. Yes, Holland is now on the DL but Ogando will start Sunday, and more than likely it will be a bullpen day and Ogando will only pitch 3, maybe 4 innings and everyone else will pitch the rest, BUT Monday is an off day so that won't hurt anything because everyone will have a day to rest. So basically GO RANGERS!! |
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The Giants series may be tough. Statistically speaking, Zito and Voglesong have far better numbers than Harrison and Feldman, and the Giants are a good hitting team. Lincecum should be batting practice for the Rangers on Sunday though. But, nothing is certain until the game is over. But even if the Giants do win the series, the Rangers have the D-backs and Astros after that (I'm going to next Friday's game). Both teams are struggling and could easily provide the Rangers with some momentum. The Rangers are in a bit of a funk right now, but they will come out of it. I still have no doubt that they will win the division. There is still a lot of baseball to be played, and I don't see the Ranfers imploding (although stranger things have happened). I am getting some satisfaction though from watching the crocodile tears of the people who were talking about breaking the record for most wins in a season and how unstoppable the Rangers are back in April. Bottom line, they'll come around. No one goes undefeated in a season, and the Angels don't have the depth in their lineup or pitching rotation to take first place and hold it. You wanna see frustration? Try rooting for the Tigers for a week. |
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The Giants series may be tough. Statistically speaking, Zito and Voglesong have far better numbers than Harrison and Feldman, and the Giants are a good hitting team. Lincecum should be batting practice for the Rangers on Sunday though. But, nothing is certain until the game is over. But even if the Giants do win the series, the Rangers have the D-backs and Astros after that (I'm going to next Friday's game). Both teams are struggling and could easily provide the Rangers with some momentum. The Rangers are in a bit of a funk right now, but they will come out of it. I still have no doubt that they will win the division. There is still a lot of baseball to be played, and I don't see the Ranfers imploding (although stranger things have happened). I am getting some satisfaction though from watching the crocodile tears of the people who were talking about breaking the record for most wins in a season and how unstoppable the Rangers are back in April. Bottom line, they'll come around. No one goes undefeated in a season, and the Angels don't have the depth in their lineup or pitching rotation to take first place and hold it. You wanna see frustration? Try rooting for the Tigers for a week. WTF happened to Lincecum? He was such a really good pitcher couple yrs ago when the Giants won the WS. Also WTF happens to Feldman? He was at least alright pitcher even last yr. or the year before. Now, every time he pitches (even for just two or three innings), the score just lights up double digits. |
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I'm a numbers guy myself, so here goes.... Compare 2011 to 2012: April 24, 2011 - 14-7 April 26, 2012 - 15-4 April 30, 2011 - 16-11 (1 game lead) April 30, 2012 - 17-6 (6.5 game lead) May 31, 2011 - 29-26 (0.5 game lead) May 31, 2012 - 31-20 (5.5 game lead) June 8, 2011 - 35-28 (2.5 game lead) - 0.5556 winning % - 0.6061 home winning %, 0.50 away winning % June 8, 2012 - 33-25 (4 game lead) - 0.5689 winning % - 0.5769 home winning %, 0.5625 away winning % April 12 to May 27, 2011 - 17-24, .251 team batting average, 4.05 team ERA After starting off 15-4 - 18-21, .276 team batting average, 4.33 team ERA So basically..... it's not time to make any drastic moves or worry about the Rangers not making the playoffs yet. So basically GO RANGERS!! Strong post. Somebody pay this man his money. Speaking of Rangers, anyone see the cover of SI this week? Interesting article on Josh. Sounds like he's gonna go top-dollar in free agency. I doubt we can resign him...which is a freaking travesty...but [RON]that's how baseball go[WASHINGTON]... |
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Quoted: Quoted: I'm a numbers guy myself, so here goes.... Compare 2011 to 2012: April 24, 2011 - 14-7 April 26, 2012 - 15-4 April 30, 2011 - 16-11 (1 game lead) April 30, 2012 - 17-6 (6.5 game lead) May 31, 2011 - 29-26 (0.5 game lead) May 31, 2012 - 31-20 (5.5 game lead) June 8, 2011 - 35-28 (2.5 game lead) - 0.5556 winning % - 0.6061 home winning %, 0.50 away winning % June 8, 2012 - 33-25 (4 game lead) - 0.5689 winning % - 0.5769 home winning %, 0.5625 away winning % April 12 to May 27, 2011 - 17-24, .251 team batting average, 4.05 team ERA After starting off 15-4 - 18-21, .276 team batting average, 4.33 team ERA So basically..... it's not time to make any drastic moves or worry about the Rangers not making the playoffs yet. So basically GO RANGERS!! Strong post. Somebody pay this man his money. Speaking of Rangers, anyone see the cover of SI this week? Interesting article on Josh. Sounds like he's gonna go top-dollar in free agency. I doubt we can resign him...which is a freaking travesty...but [RON]that's how baseball go[WASHINGTON]... Josh is having a career season, but I think he's going to end up being a liability to whoever signs him. |
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The Giants series may be tough. Statistically speaking, Zito and Voglesong have far better numbers than Harrison and Feldman, and the Giants are a good hitting team. Lincecum should be batting practice for the Rangers on Sunday though. But, nothing is certain until the game is over. But even if the Giants do win the series, the Rangers have the D-backs and Astros after that (I'm going to next Friday's game). Both teams are struggling and could easily provide the Rangers with some momentum. The Rangers are in a bit of a funk right now, but they will come out of it. I still have no doubt that they will win the division. There is still a lot of baseball to be played, and I don't see the Ranfers imploding (although stranger things have happened). I am getting some satisfaction though from watching the crocodile tears of the people who were talking about breaking the record for most wins in a season and how unstoppable the Rangers are back in April. Bottom line, they'll come around. No one goes undefeated in a season, and the Angels don't have the depth in their lineup or pitching rotation to take first place and hold it. You wanna see frustration? Try rooting for the Tigers for a week. WTF happened to Lincecum? He was such a really good pitcher couple yrs ago when the Giants won the WS. Also WTF happens to Feldman? He was at least alright pitcher even last yr. or the year before. Now, every time he pitches (even for just two or three innings), the score just lights up double digits. The munchies maybe? We should have an ARFcom get together at the ballpark one night. |
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The Giants series may be tough. Statistically speaking, Zito and Voglesong have far better numbers than Harrison and Feldman, and the Giants are a good hitting team. Lincecum should be batting practice for the Rangers on Sunday though. But, nothing is certain until the game is over. But even if the Giants do win the series, the Rangers have the D-backs and Astros after that (I'm going to next Friday's game). Both teams are struggling and could easily provide the Rangers with some momentum. The Rangers are in a bit of a funk right now, but they will come out of it. I still have no doubt that they will win the division. There is still a lot of baseball to be played, and I don't see the Ranfers imploding (although stranger things have happened). I am getting some satisfaction though from watching the crocodile tears of the people who were talking about breaking the record for most wins in a season and how unstoppable the Rangers are back in April. Bottom line, they'll come around. No one goes undefeated in a season, and the Angels don't have the depth in their lineup or pitching rotation to take first place and hold it. You wanna see frustration? Try rooting for the Tigers for a week. WTF happened to Lincecum? He was such a really good pitcher couple yrs ago when the Giants won the WS. Also WTF happens to Feldman? He was at least alright pitcher even last yr. or the year before. Now, every time he pitches (even for just two or three innings), the score just lights up double digits. The munchies maybe? We should have an ARFcom get together at the ballpark one night. That'd be cool but only on a night they have a good chance of winning 
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You better plan ahead if you want to get a bunch of tickets to a game. I'd be down for a game. I'm going on Friday and later in June to see Verlander pitch. There's a Sunday 2:05 game against the Tigers on August 12, and another 2:05 Sunday game against the Twins on August 26th.
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You better plan ahead if you want to get a bunch of tickets to a game. I'd be down for a game. I'm going on Friday and later in June to see Verlander pitch. There's a Sunday 2:05 game against the Tigers on August 12, and another 2:05 Sunday game against the Twins on August 26th. I'll be there Friday too, but unless we have a summer opposite of last year and it's unseasonably cool, I'm probably getting close to my last Ranger game until September unless I somehow stumble into a suite. I went to a game late last July and it didn't drop below 100 until the 8th inning around 9:30. Fuck that, FSSW from the recliner is just fine. |
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Quoted: Quoted: You better plan ahead if you want to get a bunch of tickets to a game. I'd be down for a game. I'm going on Friday and later in June to see Verlander pitch. There's a Sunday 2:05 game against the Tigers on August 12, and another 2:05 Sunday game against the Twins on August 26th. I'll be there Friday too, but unless we have a summer opposite of last year and it's unseasonably cool, I'm probably getting close to my last Ranger game until September unless I somehow stumble into a suite. I went to a game late last July and it didn't drop below 100 until the 8th inning around 9:30. Fuck that, FSSW from the recliner is just fine. I'm going to tomorrow's game to see if Prince can find the All you Can Eat Home Run Porch. I am going to see about getting tickets to all three home games against the Tigers in August. If I have to sit in the 100+ degree heat to see my Tigers then so be it!
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Yu Darvish pitched a good game tonight. I expected the Tigers to lose tonight because Drew Smyly gets a little worse with every start, but at least it was a contest. And for all of his good pitching, there is one Detroit Tiger that own's Yu's ass!  Prince Fielder hits one to the Tigers Bullpen! |
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Quoted: Rangers Lost 4 in a row!! Going on 5! Is it just me or are they already in allstar break mode!! Their starting pitching has come apart at the seams and the bullpen is on the ropes. If I were Wash, I wouldn't let any of my guys throw in the All Star Game. Let them all rest up, don't risk any injuries and give everyone a chance to settle down. Let Sale, Price, Verlander and Hernandez each throw two innings and Rodney can close it. Oswalt may be a bust, but it's still too early to tell. Darvish is still solid and Harrison was a victim of circumstance the other day. Feldman will come back around and Holland is still a good arm. All that said, I think they'll settle in after the break and get back on track. Ther's still a lot of baseball to be played this season. Fortunately for the Rangers, Chicago and Minnesota aren't division teams, so they can afford to take a little nose dive going into the break. Unfortunately, I was counting on the Rangers to win the Chicago series so the Tigers could gain some ground. |
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Quoted: Napoli continues to become more and more affordable next year after each at bat...lets see if he can make me eat my words in the 8th. It also becomes a bigger and bigger crime that he is the starting catcher in the All Star game while Joe Mauer sits on the bench. The only satisfaction I take from that is the fact that A. Hole Pierzynski will be watching the game on TV! |
| I like Nap but he has been sucking lately hopefully he finds his groove I'm still trying to figure out why Yorvette Torrealba (sp?) keeps getting the start? Allows like Holland will make his first trip back to the mound in a while hopefully he can get us back in the win column. Luckly the angles haven't been too good either |
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Quoted: I like Nap but he has been sucking lately hopefully he finds his groove I'm still trying to figure out why Yorvette Torrealba (sp?) keeps getting the start? Allows like Holland will make his first trip back to the mound in a while hopefully he can get us back in the win column. Luckly the angles haven't been too good either This is going to be an interesting game tonight. I went to the game in Houston where Holland lost to the Astros, and despit their season record the Twins have been not only hot, but steadily improving. On the other hand, the Rangers are facing a AAA pitcher tonight and they have the offense to chase him early. But, he wasn't a pushover in AAA so we'll have to see. Of course I'll be rooting for the Rangers, since the Twins are a division rival of the Tigers (even though the aren't a threat to hurt the Tigers this season). This will also be the fifth game I've been to at Rangers Ballpark this year. Kinda says something about the Rangers fans when a guy who isn't a Rangers fan has been to five games already.  |
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I'll be interested to see if Oswalt gets slapped around today. Despite their record, the Twins are a team that has been steadily improving and had a winning record for June. Willing ham and Plouffe have been hitting a lot of home runs and of course Mauer is a great hitter. But, the Twins aren't a particularly good hitting team. You might could excuse his performances against the Tigers and White Sox, but if he gets hit hard by the Twins then he is gonna be a bust. He'll be useless against the Angels and in the post season against the Yankees and whoever wins the AL central. Of course I'm rooting for the Rangers again today since the Twins are a division rival of my Tigers.
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Interesting game today. Oswlat's pitching improved today, but he still only lasted 5 2/3's innings and when he left his team was behind. Technically, he still has only one quality start, and the Twins aren't the Tigers or White Sox (actually, they aren't even the Rockies by comparison of team batting averages), but it's still a step in the right direction for Oswalt. What is troubling is the Ranger's complete inability to score any runs against the Twins. The Rangers are the 'best' offensive team in the AL, but they scored a grand total of 9 runs in this series with the Twins. The problem is that the Twins are the worst pitching team in the American League. The Rangers are actually one of the better pitching teams in the AL, but the Twins out scored the Rangers in this series 11-9. And here's a little factoid for all you nouveau Ranger's fans (which is all of you, since there is no such thing as a die hard Rangers fan  ):The Yankees now have a better record than the Rangers. The Yankees also have a 7 game lead on the Orioles Oh, and as of right now, the Tigers are the hottest team in baseball with a 5 game winning streak...the longest currently running in either league. They're also 18-10 for the last month and 3.5 games out of first, the closest of any team in the American League, except the Indians.  |
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Interesting game today. Oswlat's pitching improved today, but he still only lasted 5 2/3's innings and when he left his team was behind. Technically, he still has only one quality start, and the Twins aren't the Tigers or White Sox (actually, they aren't even the Rockies by comparison of team batting averages), but it's still a step in the right direction for Oswalt. What is troubling is the Ranger's complete inability to score any runs against the Twins. The Rangers are the 'best' offensive team in the AL, but they scored a grand total of 9 runs in this series with the Twins. The problem is that the Twins are the worst pitching team in the American League. The Rangers are actually one of the better pitching teams in the AL, but the Twins out scored the Rangers in this series 11-9. And here's a little factoid for all you nouveau Ranger's fans (which is all of you, since there is no such thing as a die hard Rangers fan ):
The Yankees now have a better record than the Rangers. The Yankees also have a 7 game lead on the Orioles Oh, and as of right now, the Tigers are the hottest team in baseball with a 5 game winning streak...the longest currently running in either league. They're also 18-10 for the last month and 3.5 games out of first, the closest of any team in the American League, except the Indians.
It's OK, as long as the Rangers win AL West. Besides, it's only half of the season so far. As far as Oswalt is concerned, I think it's a good pick up and I don't expect him to suddenly pitching like his former self of yesteryear. Even though, he has pitched just so-so; the important factor is his extra arm does help the rotation, the pull pen, and especially when there were several pitchers on disable list. Any extra arm helps, EVEN just one inning. |
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Well I guess I'll revive this thread. Rangers have traded for Geovany Soto, Cubs catcher for the last few years for a aa pitching prospect. Torrealba seems to be the odd man out and is due to be dfa sometime later today. Not sure how I feel about this, but after reading some bbtia.com analysis, I feel slightly better
What I really wanted to mention was the words of the oh-so-hot Emily Jones during the broadcast last night. When she was doing one of her cuts during the game, she was asking fans to text or tweet or something like that, what they thought the team should trade for. The options were pitcher or hitter. Well during her brief spot, the camera started going up and down, eventually zooming in on her feet, apparently due to the actions of none other than Yorvit Torrealba, who was evidently screwing around with the camera equipment during her spot. As funny as it might have seemed, the lovely Emily Jones mentioned that she might just add 'catcher' to the list of things the Rangers should trade for, since he was fucking around with her spot. She of course was saying this out of jest, but in retrospect, 
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Torrealba was DFA'ed at 10:30PM last night. I'm so-so on him. He wasnt brought in to be an offensive dynamo, he was brought in for defense and his ability to handle young pitchers. He did well at that. However this team needs a kick in the ass. If a guy whose been with the team to their 2 world series appearances can be cut maybe there will be reignition.
This is a good team. A great team. However they have gotten lax. We'll see what happens next |
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Torrealba was DFA'ed at 10:30PM last night. I'm so-so on him. He wasnt brought in to be an offensive dynamo, he was brought in for defense and his ability to handle young pitchers. He did well at that. However this team needs a kick in the ass. If a guy whose been with the team to their 2 world series appearances can be cut maybe there will be reignition. This is a good team. A great team. However they have gotten lax. We'll see what happens next Torrealba wasn't with the Rangers in 2010. His only World Series appearance was last year. 2010 was Matt Treanor and Bengie Molina. Not trying to come off as a dick, just saying.... |
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Backup catchers and aging first basemen are not what the Rangers need. The Rangers need starting pitching. I get the feeling that they are conceding defeat this season through their unwillingness to deal Olt for a pitcher who will put the in the World Series. Offenses come around, and the Rangers offense will heat up again. The problem is their starting pitching. The rotation has essentially collapsed. Harrison and Darvish can win games, but the are not front end starters yet. I wouldn't want to give either of them the ball in Game 7 of the World Series.
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Quoted: Despite Roy's wishes, he may go to the bullpen as long man, and you may see Ogando back in the rotation. I don't know that he would do any better there. He said that he was having mechanical issues yesterday because he hadn't pitched in 11 days. A long reliever might not pitch for 10-12 games. I would swap him with Ogando and have Roy pitch an inning in relief every day or two in order to get him comfortable with his delivery again. He might be able to come back as a starter in September. But, that still doesn't fill the void left by Colby Lewis. The Rangers needed a Hammels or Demster BEFORE Lewis got hurt. Now they need both and there is no one available. I still think the Rangers will make it to October, but I don't think that they're going to be in the World Series this season. I think it's going to be New York (unless the Miracle in Oakland continues) and Washington. |
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He can call it mechanics all he wanrs, but his last 3 starts he started to fall apart in the 5th inning.
I like Scooter Feldman. His W-L record isnt indicitive of his real performance. Early on he got screwed over by sorry defense and shit run support. When that sinker ball is on its one of the better sinkers in baseball. I think its starting to look like the 17win Scoiter more and more. I say leave him in the rotation. I am concerned about Feliz. This "strained UCL" is starting to sound like Tommy John more and more. His velocity is way down, and accuracy has gone to shit. |
| Looks like a good deal to me. 3B was overloaded with Beltre being his usual self and Mike Olt still trying to break through, so Villanueva is no real loss in the farm system. Don't know much about Kyle Hendricks, both are single a guys so it's not like we were going to see either of them in the next couple of years anyways. Seems like everyone benefited, we need to win now and Dempster will help immediately with that and the Cubs are looking to win in the next few years, two single a guys can help them along. |