Posted: 2/26/2011 10:52:49 AM EDT
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Ok. I get it... You rent lanes to people for money.
Do you know what a rip off your services are? I took five. (edit make that six people! Forgot my young son shot too. ) of my family into your range. We arrived at 10am on Sat. 3 (4 counting my boy) of us started on two lanes, and actually had a great time. The four of us shot for 1 hour then the other two arrived and piggy backed on our two lanes. So six people, Six full range fees. At 1.5 hours the guy running the place announces that we are over staying our one hour range fee. I point out that we have five shooters. Two of them have been there for .5 hours. I ask to speak to a manager.... Lo and behold this is the manager. I pack up, and notice the self announced premium member is flagging the range with a hot FN2000. What the fuck guys?!!! You are going to bend me over your counter top, on some bullshit, misapplied range time limit. Then turn a blind eye to safety after I come out and tell you to police your fucking chief shit "5 year premium member" I witness two of your employees gazing at this fuck-tard wave a second weapon (a fn5.7) around, and debate wether he needed to be talked to, and whose going to do it. Seriously.... Your range is now officially as bad as Bullet Trap in Plano. I hope you can unfuck yourselves. But you lost me and four other patrons forever. |
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Hmmm...6/10. Some of your grammar is really way out there to the point I can't even understand the situation. Also, the lack of naming off the bad range doesn't do anyone any good. You need to publicly call these people out so others can avoid these places. DFW Range..............in the thread title. |
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Suddenly Quail Creek ain't so bad. Camp out for hours on end, range nazis jump all in your shit for unsafe gun handling, and when you're done sitting on your ass you can walk up the hill and get tactical in Proactive's pits.
Only downside to QC is that it only goes to 100 yards. they need to buy the property behind them and at least get out to 200 yards. |
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Ok. I get it... You rent lanes to people for money. Do you know what a rip off your services are? I took five. (edit make that six people! Forgot my young son shot too. ) of my family into your range. We arrived at 10am on Sat. 3 (4 counting my boy) of us started on two lanes, and actually had a great time. The four of us shot for 1 hour then the other two arrived and piggy backed on our two lanes. So six people, Six full range fees. At 1.5 hours the guy running the place announces that we are over staying our one hour range fee. I point out that we have five shooters. Two of them have been there for .5 hours. I ask to speak to a manager.... Lo and behold this is the manager. I pack up, and notice the self announced premium member is flagging the range with a hot FN2000. What the fuck guys?!!! You are going to bend me over your counter top, on some bullshit, misapplied range time limit. Then turn a blind eye to safety after I come out and tell you to police your fucking chief shit "5 year premium member" I witness two of your employees gazing at this fuck-tard wave a second weapon (a fn5.7) around, and debate wether he needed to be talked to, and whose going to do it. Seriously.... Your range is now officially as bad as Bullet Trap in Plano. I hope you can unfuck yourselves. But you lost me and four other patrons forever. The one hour limits are clearly posted and on weekends are needed to accomodate as man people as possible. That said, you late-comers should have had their entire hour. As to the range safety issue; this is a serious problem. I have noticed it and pointed it out also. If you really want to effect change there, go to the website (dfwgun.com) and email the owner. Then call the range and ask for Doug. Doug is the manager and doing a pretty good job. I will also point this thread out to him, but hearing from a customer is better than reading about it. |
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Hmmm...6/10. Some of your grammar is really way out there to the point I can't even understand the situation. Also, the lack of naming off the bad range doesn't do anyone any good. You need to publicly call these people out so others can avoid these places. DFW Range..............in the thread title. Oh...I didn't even know they existed. It would probably help if I got with the times. I'll increase score to 7/10. |
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Sorry to hear about your bad experience @ DFW Gun Range; the only time I ever fire a round there is when I meet one of my FFL/SOTs and he wants to demo something new. We spent all afternoon today outside enjoying the nice weather and shooting from 500 yards to 10 yards on Larue targets and then afterward flying in the bird we're going to use on our upcoming hog hunts. I see what you did there. Slip in a little brag about arial hog hunting while trying to relate to DFW. To the OP, going to that indoor range on a Saturday with a large group of people is not good, especially since that is a busy day with CHL classes. You might want to look into other shooting venues. It was a beautiful day outside and I got sunburned... |
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What Doug is running the range now? The Doug that used to work there like 5 years ago? Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile That's the one. He worked at a world class range in Vegas while he was gone and learned a tremendous amount. He has made some good changes and is customer service driven. |
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Quoted: OP - In the future try Elm Fork It is outdoors, the fee covers you for all day shooting, you can shoot ARs from the pistol range, and the ROs are laid back (unless you do something stupid, or are unsafe). I had a great time there yesterday at a group shoot with DTAS FYI - Bring your own targets as they charge a buck a pop for them. Also, you'll need to ask the range officer if you can pick up your brass as he will sweep it away. |
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OP - In the future try Elm Fork It is outdoors, the fee covers you for all day shooting, you can shoot ARs from the pistol range, and the ROs are laid back (unless you do something stupid, or are unsafe). I had a great time there yesterday at a group shoot with DTAS Won't go back. They refuse rapid fire (more than a shot every few seconds), won't let you pick up your OWN brass, don't know crap about NFA (no silencers or SBRs), and I could go on.... They are geared for the deer hunting types. Their range, their rules. |
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OP - In the future try Elm Fork It is outdoors, the fee covers you for all day shooting, you can shoot ARs from the pistol range, and the ROs are laid back (unless you do something stupid, or are unsafe). I had a great time there yesterday at a group shoot with DTAS Won't go back. They refuse rapid fire (more than a shot every few seconds), won't let you pick up your OWN brass, don't know crap about NFA (no silencers or SBRs), and I could go on.... They are geared for the deer hunting types. Their range, their rules. The rapid fire thing has alway been a problem there. While many on this board can control their weapons in rapid fire, you are a very small group of the shooters there. Most are folk who rarely shoot, then go in there wanting to try something they saw on TV and do damage to the overhead tracks. Yes, its that bad and the damage is expensive. Not only expensive to repair, but revenue lost when the line goes down. Typically one shot per second is ok. You can pick up your own brass as long as its not forward of the firing line. Thats a safety issue. They are NFA friendly and they d not cater to hunters. The range is only 25 yards at its longest. |
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Quoted: What Doug is running the range now? The Doug that used to work there like 5 years ago? Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile That's the one. He worked at a world class range in Vegas while he was gone and learned a tremendous amount. He has made some good changes and is customer service driven. Thats cool! I remember him telling me he was going to LV, but that he was going to work for the Bellagio. After that didnt work out, he came back for a visit nd I happened to be there when he mentioned the range out there. I think I`ll stop in and say howdy. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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OP - In the future try Elm Fork It is outdoors, the fee covers you for all day shooting, you can shoot ARs from the pistol range, and the ROs are laid back (unless you do something stupid, or are unsafe). I had a great time there yesterday at a group shoot with DTAS Won't go back. They refuse rapid fire (more than a shot every few seconds), won't let you pick up your OWN brass, don't know crap about NFA (no silencers or SBRs), and I could go on.... They are geared for the deer hunting types. Their range, their rules. The rapid fire thing has alway been a problem there. While many on this board can control their weapons in rapid fire, you are a very small group of the shooters there. Most are folk who rarely shoot, then go in there wanting to try something they saw on TV and do damage to the overhead tracks. Yes, its that bad and the damage is expensive. Not only expensive to repair, but revenue lost when the line goes down. Typically one shot per second is ok. You can pick up your own brass as long as its not forward of the firing line. Thats a safety issue. They are NFA friendly and they d not cater to hunters. The range is only 25 yards at its longest. Talking about Elm Fork, not DFW. My experience is that DFW monitors folks shooting and have allowed controlled rapid fire but the majority of customers are not proficient. |
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Actually, you can pick up your own brass. Just tell them and they will leave it swept up behind the lines, but will not put it in the containers - loose brass can become a safety hazard, so in this litigious society, they have to manage it. Also, the guy next to me was shooting an SBR AR-15 with no problems. It must be an amazing coincidence that both of those things happened on the same day.
In my experience, as long as you tell the RO before you plan to do something out of the ordinary, they generally are okay with it (so long as it doesn't break the rules). Is Elm Fork perfect? No, but I have had better overall experiences there than any of the local indoor ranges. I am just trying to give the OP an alternative shooting location since he had a difficult time at the last place. |
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Actually, you can pick up your own brass. Just tell them and they will leave it swept up behind the lines, but will not put it in the containers - loose brass can become a safety hazard, so in this litigious society, they have to manage it. Also, the guy next to me was shooting an SBR AR-15 with no problems. It must be an amazing coincidence that both of those things happened on the same day. In my experience, as long as you tell the RO before you plan to do something out of the ordinary, they generally are okay with it (so long as it doesn't break the rules). Is Elm Fork perfect? No, but I have had better overall experiences there than any of the local indoor ranges. I am just trying to give the OP an alternative shooting location since he had a difficult time at the last place. They must have changed their practices a few years ago after telling me I couldn't shoot a can on my 10/22. That's when they started spouting off about SBRs and other NFA items not allowed since they didn't have the proper federal license, blah, blah, blah. Haven't been back and others have had same problem. It would be nice to confirm if they have changed their position. DFW is more flexible but tends to draw a more questionable crowd. |
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You could always join the private range I belong to. The Haltom City Rifle and Pistol Club. We are in Haltom City at the intersection of Hwy. 121 and Minnis Dr. Rapid fire is allowed, but each round fired must be aimed. No mag dumps or bump firing from the hip. If you bring a can or SBR be ready for the RO, and others, to walk over, drool and ask a lot of questions. Some ROs are Fudds but most are OK.
If you join your immediate family becomes associate members with full privileges. You can bring a friend but they would have to pay a $7.00 range fee. That is for all day. If you want to join there is a one time $300.00 iniation fee. Dues are $75.00 per year. You can go as often as you want for as long as you want. The only problem is there is no open shooting during a match, but the schedule is easily available. The range has 25 yard, 50 yard, 100 yard and 200 yard stations. The benches are concrete and all are covered. You can shoot from the bench, prone, sitting or standing. Several of us are members there. If you are free when one of us is going you could come as our guest. Matches are open to anyone- you don't need to be a member. You could come shoot a match or just look around during a match. If you can't manage that you can call the range and ask the RO on duty if he would mind letting you look around. Some of our safety rules irritate some people but they have kept us one of the few ranges actually in town open. edited to add: You can pick up your brass. If it's in front of your bench just wait for the range to be called safe. Jim |
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This is a shame. Used to go to DFWGR once a week but that was back 6 years ago or so. Never had an issue there, but I suppose times have changed. What is weird, I swore I'd never go back to Quail Creek but got desperate for some quick range time a couple weeks back so went there. (only a few miles away) and had a damn good time, no issues and plan on going back again. Hell, even the RN's were nice and helpful, which was a huge surprise. |
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You could always join the private range I belong to. The Haltom City Rifle and Pistol Club. We are in Haltom City at the intersection of Hwy. 121 and Minnis Dr. Rapid fire is allowed, but each round fired must be aimed. No mag dumps or bump firing from the hip. If you bring a can or SBR be ready for the RO, and others, to walk over, drool and ask a lot of questions. Some ROs are Fudds but most are OK. If you join your immediate family becomes associate members with full privileges. You can bring a friend but they would have to pay a $7.00 range fee. That is for all day. If you want to join there is a one time $300.00 iniation fee. Dues are $75.00 per year. You can go as often as you want for as long as you want. The only problem is there is no open shooting during a match, but the schedule is easily available. The range has 25 yard, 50 yard, 100 yard and 200 yard stations. The benches are concrete and all are covered. You can shoot from the bench, prone, sitting or standing. Several of us are members there. If you are free when one of us is going you could come as our guest. Matches are open to anyone- you don't need to be a member. You could come shoot a match or just look around during a match. If you can't manage that you can call the range and ask the RO on duty if he would mind letting you look around. Some of our safety rules irritate some people but they have kept us one of the few ranges actually in town open. edited to add: You can pick up your brass. If it's in front of your bench just wait for the range to be called safe. Jim Are they accepting new members or is there a waiting list? |
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You could always join the private range I belong to. The Haltom City Rifle and Pistol Club. We are in Haltom City at the intersection of Hwy. 121 and Minnis Dr. Rapid fire is allowed, but each round fired must be aimed. No mag dumps or bump firing from the hip. If you bring a can or SBR be ready for the RO, and others, to walk over, drool and ask a lot of questions. Some ROs are Fudds but most are OK. If you join your immediate family becomes associate members with full privileges. You can bring a friend but they would have to pay a $7.00 range fee. That is for all day. If you want to join there is a one time $300.00 iniation fee. Dues are $75.00 per year. You can go as often as you want for as long as you want. The only problem is there is no open shooting during a match, but the schedule is easily available. The range has 25 yard, 50 yard, 100 yard and 200 yard stations. The benches are concrete and all are covered. You can shoot from the bench, prone, sitting or standing. Several of us are members there. If you are free when one of us is going you could come as our guest. Matches are open to anyone- you don't need to be a member. You could come shoot a match or just look around during a match. If you can't manage that you can call the range and ask the RO on duty if he would mind letting you look around. Some of our safety rules irritate some people but they have kept us one of the few ranges actually in town open. edited to add: You can pick up your brass. If it's in front of your bench just wait for the range to be called safe. Jim Are they accepting new members or is there a waiting list? They were talking about capping the membership awhile back but it didn't happen. So their is no waiting list. You can see the requirements on the web site Pepperbelly posted. |
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You could always join the private range I belong to. The Haltom City Rifle and Pistol Club. We are in Haltom City at the intersection of Hwy. 121 and Minnis Dr. Rapid fire is allowed, but each round fired must be aimed. No mag dumps or bump firing from the hip. If you bring a can or SBR be ready for the RO, and others, to walk over, drool and ask a lot of questions. Some ROs are Fudds but most are OK. If you join your immediate family becomes associate members with full privileges. You can bring a friend but they would have to pay a $7.00 range fee. That is for all day. If you want to join there is a one time $300.00 iniation fee. Dues are $75.00 per year. You can go as often as you want for as long as you want. The only problem is there is no open shooting during a match, but the schedule is easily available. The range has 25 yard, 50 yard, 100 yard and 200 yard stations. The benches are concrete and all are covered. You can shoot from the bench, prone, sitting or standing. Several of us are members there. If you are free when one of us is going you could come as our guest. Matches are open to anyone- you don't need to be a member. You could come shoot a match or just look around during a match. If you can't manage that you can call the range and ask the RO on duty if he would mind letting you look around. Some of our safety rules irritate some people but they have kept us one of the few ranges actually in town open. edited to add: You can pick up your brass. If it's in front of your bench just wait for the range to be called safe. Jim I'm going to second this. I joined last year and haven't been to a public range since. It's safe and there is always good people to chat with. The only 2 things that really bug the shit out of me is that they don't allow more than 5 rounds in a magazine and we have our monthly meetings at a place thats posted "NO GUNS". Not the legal signage, but still, I personally would not give them my business. Other than that, it's a pretty good place to shoot. |
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You could always join the private range I belong to. The Haltom City Rifle and Pistol Club. We are in Haltom City at the intersection of Hwy. 121 and Minnis Dr. Rapid fire is allowed, but each round fired must be aimed. No mag dumps or bump firing from the hip. If you bring a can or SBR be ready for the RO, and others, to walk over, drool and ask a lot of questions. Some ROs are Fudds but most are OK. If you join your immediate family becomes associate members with full privileges. You can bring a friend but they would have to pay a $7.00 range fee. That is for all day. If you want to join there is a one time $300.00 iniation fee. Dues are $75.00 per year. You can go as often as you want for as long as you want. The only problem is there is no open shooting during a match, but the schedule is easily available. The range has 25 yard, 50 yard, 100 yard and 200 yard stations. The benches are concrete and all are covered. You can shoot from the bench, prone, sitting or standing. Several of us are members there. If you are free when one of us is going you could come as our guest. Matches are open to anyone- you don't need to be a member. You could come shoot a match or just look around during a match. If you can't manage that you can call the range and ask the RO on duty if he would mind letting you look around. Some of our safety rules irritate some people but they have kept us one of the few ranges actually in town open. edited to add: You can pick up your brass. If it's in front of your bench just wait for the range to be called safe. Jim I'm going to second this. I joined last year and haven't been to a public range since. It's safe and there is always good people to chat with. The only 2 things that really bug the shit out of me is that they don't allow more than 5 rounds in a magazine and we have our monthly meetings at a place thats posted "NO GUNS". Not the legal signage, but still, I personally would not give them my business. Other than that, it's a pretty good place to shoot. Reason for 5 round limit? |
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I'm going to second this. I joined last year and haven't been to a public range since. It's safe and there is always good people to chat with. The only 2 things that really bug the shit out of me is that they don't allow more than 5 rounds in a magazine and we have our monthly meetings at a place thats posted "NO GUNS". Not the legal signage, but still, I personally would not give them my business. Other than that, it's a pretty good place to shoot. [/quote] Just to clarify, handguns are exempt from the 5 round requirement. |
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I'm going to second this. I joined last year and haven't been to a public range since. It's safe and there is always good people to chat with. The only 2 things that really bug the shit out of me is that they don't allow more than 5 rounds in a magazine and we have our monthly meetings at a place thats posted "NO GUNS". Not the legal signage, but still, I personally would not give them my business. Other than that, it's a pretty good place to shoot. [/quote] Just to clarify, handguns are exempt from the 5 round requirement.[/quote] The purpose of going to a range is to practice and test functionality of firearm. This 5 round limitation does not allow one to verify potential magazine malfunction. Sounds more like a knee-jerk reaction that lacks common sense. Curious if they enforce against lever actions and bolt guns. |
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The 5 round limit applys to all rifles. It is a fudd thing that could change in the future.
I think it came from an SKS years ago that emptied the mag into the baffles due to slamfire. It is really not a problem except for Garands. It annoys some people but we have fought for years to ensure we stay open. Many other in town ranges have closed. Jim |
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The 5 round limit applys to all rifles. It is a fudd thing that could change in the future. I think it came from an SKS years ago that emptied the mag into the baffles due to slamfire. It is really not a problem except for Garands. It annoys some people but we have fought for years to ensure we stay open. Many other in town ranges have closed. Jim The rule applies to rifles and handguns alike with the exception of being able to load 6 while shooting at the falling plates(There are 6 plates, so it makes sense to load 6). I believe the rule was a concession to the city in order to stay open after an officer let a round slip out of the range. It struck some guy(a preacher I think) while he was in his backyard. LEO is no longer allowed to train there unless they are members. This is what I've heard anyway? I agree, it's not really a problem, it's really my only complaint.. Hopefully we can get that changed after the new baffles are installed. Other than that, I absolutely love shooting there. I hope it's around forever. 
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You could always join the private range I belong to. The Haltom City Rifle and Pistol Club. We are in Haltom City at the intersection of Hwy. 121 and Minnis Dr. Rapid fire is allowed, but each round fired must be aimed. No mag dumps or bump firing from the hip. If you bring a can or SBR be ready for the RO, and others, to walk over, drool and ask a lot of questions. Some ROs are Fudds but most are OK. If you join your immediate family becomes associate members with full privileges. You can bring a friend but they would have to pay a $7.00 range fee. That is for all day. If you want to join there is a one time $300.00 iniation fee. Dues are $75.00 per year. You can go as often as you want for as long as you want. The only problem is there is no open shooting during a match, but the schedule is easily available. The range has 25 yard, 50 yard, 100 yard and 200 yard stations. The benches are concrete and all are covered. You can shoot from the bench, prone, sitting or standing. Several of us are members there. If you are free when one of us is going you could come as our guest. Matches are open to anyone- you don't need to be a member. You could come shoot a match or just look around during a match. If you can't manage that you can call the range and ask the RO on duty if he would mind letting you look around. Some of our safety rules irritate some people but they have kept us one of the few ranges actually in town open. edited to add: You can pick up your brass. If it's in front of your bench just wait for the range to be called safe. Jim My old ffl told me about this place but the 5rnd mag cap is stupid and a deal breaker. If that ever changes lmk |
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The 5 round limit applys to all rifles. It is a fudd thing that could change in the future. I think it came from an SKS years ago that emptied the mag into the baffles due to slamfire. It is really not a problem except for Garands. It annoys some people but we have fought for years to ensure we stay open. Many other in town ranges have closed. Jim The rule applies to rifles and handguns alike with the exception of being able to load 6 while shooting at the falling plates(There are 6 plates, so it makes sense to load 6). I believe the rule was a concession to the city in order to stay open after an officer let a round slip out of the range. It struck some guy(a preacher I think) while he was in his backyard. LEO is no longer allowed to train there unless they are members. This is what I've heard anyway? I agree, it's not really a problem, it's really my only complaint.. Hopefully we can get that changed after the new baffles are installed. Other than that, I absolutely love shooting there. I hope it's around forever.
The land the range is on used to be owned by the City of Haltom City. The club leased the land for the range and club. After the P.D. had their incident the range was closed for about a year if i remember correctly. After that the club bought the land. before the club owned it the HCPD were able to train there. Now they have to become a member and abide by the rules like everyone else. The mag restriction does annoy some people. But, we do have a range that is in town. Here in Tarrant county that is gettiong rare. The Ft.Worth Rifle and Pistol range closed mostly because on in fighting among the members and some slack safety rules. Our club's rules may seem overly restrictive, but they have kept us insured and open. Most ranges have, or are, implementing similarly restrictive rules in order to stay open in the face of mounting pressure to close. We have many members who also shoot at other ranges in order to draw pistols from the holster to shoot, or be able to load more rounds in a mag. They use our range as a place to shoot close to home. It doesn't make sense for someone from Dallas, but for those of us in Fort Worth and the Mid-Cities area it beats having to drive an hour or more just to shoot. Jim |
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The 5 round limit applys to all rifles. It is a fudd thing that could change in the future. I think it came from an SKS years ago that emptied the mag into the baffles due to slamfire. It is really not a problem except for Garands. It annoys some people but we have fought for years to ensure we stay open. Many other in town ranges have closed. Jim The rule applies to rifles and handguns alike with the exception of being able to load 6 while shooting at the falling plates(There are 6 plates, so it makes sense to load 6). I believe the rule was a concession to the city in order to stay open after an officer let a round slip out of the range. It struck some guy(a preacher I think) while he was in his backyard. LEO is no longer allowed to train there unless they are members. This is what I've heard anyway? I agree, it's not really a problem, it's really my only complaint.. Hopefully we can get that changed after the new baffles are installed. Other than that, I absolutely love shooting there. I hope it's around forever.
The land the range is on used to be owned by the City of Haltom City. The club leased the land for the range and club. After the P.D. had their incident the range was closed for about a year if i remember correctly. After that the club bought the land. before the club owned it the HCPD were able to train there. Now they have to become a member and abide by the rules like everyone else. The mag restriction does annoy some people. But, we do have a range that is in town. Here in Tarrant county that is gettiong rare. The Ft.Worth Rifle and Pistol range closed mostly because on in fighting among the members and some slack safety rules. Our club's rules may seem overly restrictive, but they have kept us insured and open. Most ranges have, or are, implementing similarly restrictive rules in order to stay open in the face of mounting pressure to close. We have many members who also shoot at other ranges in order to draw pistols from the holster to shoot, or be able to load more rounds in a mag. They use our range as a place to shoot close to home. It doesn't make sense for someone from Dallas, but for those of us in Fort Worth and the Mid-Cities area it beats having to drive an hour or more just to shoot. Jim How do magazine limits relate to safety? You know things are bad when you can't even use a 70 year old en bloc. |
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The 5 round limit applys to all rifles. It is a fudd thing that could change in the future. I think it came from an SKS years ago that emptied the mag into the baffles due to slamfire. It is really not a problem except for Garands. It annoys some people but we have fought for years to ensure we stay open. Many other in town ranges have closed. Jim The rule applies to rifles and handguns alike with the exception of being able to load 6 while shooting at the falling plates(There are 6 plates, so it makes sense to load 6). I believe the rule was a concession to the city in order to stay open after an officer let a round slip out of the range. It struck some guy(a preacher I think) while he was in his backyard. LEO is no longer allowed to train there unless they are members. This is what I've heard anyway? I agree, it's not really a problem, it's really my only complaint.. Hopefully we can get that changed after the new baffles are installed. Other than that, I absolutely love shooting there. I hope it's around forever.
The land the range is on used to be owned by the City of Haltom City. The club leased the land for the range and club. After the P.D. had their incident the range was closed for about a year if i remember correctly. After that the club bought the land. before the club owned it the HCPD were able to train there. Now they have to become a member and abide by the rules like everyone else. The mag restriction does annoy some people. But, we do have a range that is in town. Here in Tarrant county that is gettiong rare. The Ft.Worth Rifle and Pistol range closed mostly because on in fighting among the members and some slack safety rules. Our club's rules may seem overly restrictive, but they have kept us insured and open. Most ranges have, or are, implementing similarly restrictive rules in order to stay open in the face of mounting pressure to close. We have many members who also shoot at other ranges in order to draw pistols from the holster to shoot, or be able to load more rounds in a mag. They use our range as a place to shoot close to home. It doesn't make sense for someone from Dallas, but for those of us in Fort Worth and the Mid-Cities area it beats having to drive an hour or more just to shoot. Jim How do magazine limits relate to safety? You know things are bad when you can't even use a 70 year old en bloc. Rules are Rules. Like I said, it's a rule I'm not overjoyed about, but like Jim said, It's a trade off for being able to shoot close to home. It's a well run club with nice facilities and the members all seem to care a lot about it. I for one am very happy I joined. |
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The 5 round limit applys to all rifles. It is a fudd thing that could change in the future. I think it came from an SKS years ago that emptied the mag into the baffles due to slamfire. It is really not a problem except for Garands. It annoys some people but we have fought for years to ensure we stay open. Many other in town ranges have closed. Jim The rule applies to rifles and handguns alike with the exception of being able to load 6 while shooting at the falling plates(There are 6 plates, so it makes sense to load 6). I believe the rule was a concession to the city in order to stay open after an officer let a round slip out of the range. It struck some guy(a preacher I think) while he was in his backyard. LEO is no longer allowed to train there unless they are members. This is what I've heard anyway? I agree, it's not really a problem, it's really my only complaint.. Hopefully we can get that changed after the new baffles are installed. Other than that, I absolutely love shooting there. I hope it's around forever.
The land the range is on used to be owned by the City of Haltom City. The club leased the land for the range and club. After the P.D. had their incident the range was closed for about a year if i remember correctly. After that the club bought the land. before the club owned it the HCPD were able to train there. Now they have to become a member and abide by the rules like everyone else. The mag restriction does annoy some people. But, we do have a range that is in town. Here in Tarrant county that is gettiong rare. The Ft.Worth Rifle and Pistol range closed mostly because on in fighting among the members and some slack safety rules. Our club's rules may seem overly restrictive, but they have kept us insured and open. Most ranges have, or are, implementing similarly restrictive rules in order to stay open in the face of mounting pressure to close. We have many members who also shoot at other ranges in order to draw pistols from the holster to shoot, or be able to load more rounds in a mag. They use our range as a place to shoot close to home. It doesn't make sense for someone from Dallas, but for those of us in Fort Worth and the Mid-Cities area it beats having to drive an hour or more just to shoot. Jim How do magazine limits relate to safety? You know things are bad when you can't even use a 70 year old en bloc. Rules are Rules. Like I said, it's a rule I'm not overjoyed about, but like Jim said, It's a trade off for being able to shoot close to home. It's a well run club with nice facilities and the members all seem to care a lot about it. I for one am very happy I joined. Is it possible for both of you or other like-minded members to run for the board and change these rules? |
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Is it possible for both of you or other like-minded members to run for the board and change these rules? I was on the board a few years ago. This rule has been in place for some time. At the present time it is very unlikely to change. There are several "old guard" officers who would oppose changing that rule. They are respected enough noone would push it. In time they will stop serving, and when newer members are elected that may be brought ut. It's also possible it is a requirement or "suggestion" from our insurance carrier.When I was on the board I brought it up specifically for Garands. It was quickly shot down, so I doubt it could be overturned in the near future. It's a rule all members have learned to deal with, and it really isn't that inconvenient. I don't run through a lot of ammo that quickly. All of mine are aimed trying for small itty bitty groups, or a dot drill. In each case I usually let the barrel cool off between shots. Jim |