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7/6/2010 2:13:23 PM EDT
To drive a vehicle that's over the 26,000 pound gross vehicle weight limit if I'm not driving it for commercial purposes?
7/6/2010 2:40:51 PM EDT
[#1]
yep, dosn't matter the reason. I got pulled over pulling a 40' float but it's registered to carry 10,000lbs. But the DOT DPS guy that got me said that "they" go by GVW listed on the doors or combined weight. Kinda stuipid if you ask me but whats new with traffic laws.
7/6/2010 2:41:19 PM EDT
[#2]
I thought it was combined weight of 36,000 lbs.
7/6/2010 3:09:27 PM EDT
[#3]
Quoted:
yep, dosn't matter the reason. I got pulled over pulling a 40' float but it's registered to carry 10,000lbs. But the DOT DPS guy that got me said that "they" go by GVW listed on the doors or combined weight. Kinda stuipid if you ask me but whats new with traffic laws.


Or, hypothetically speaking, the gvwr listed on the data plate if it's a former military vehicle?
7/6/2010 6:52:13 PM EDT
[#4]
Sec. 522.041.  CLASSIFICATIONS.  (a)  The department may issue a Class A, Class B, or Class C commercial driver's license.
(b)  Class A covers a combination of vehicles with a gross combination weight rating of 26,001 pounds or more, if the gross vehicle weight rating of the towed vehicle or vehicles exceeds 10,000 pounds.
(c)  Class B covers:
    (1)  a single vehicle with a gross vehicle weight rating of 26,001 pounds or more;
    (2)  a single vehicle with a gross vehicle weight rating of 26,001 pounds or more towing a vehicle with a gross vehicle weight rating of 10,000 pounds or less;  and
    (3)  a vehicle designed to transport 24 passengers or more, including the driver.
(d)  Class C covers a single vehicle or combination of vehicles not described by Subsection (b) or (c) that is:
    (1)  designed to transport 16-23 passengers, including the driver;  or
    (2)  used in the transportation of hazardous materials that require the vehicle to be placarded under 49 C.F.R. Part 172, Subpart F.
(e)  The holder of a commercial driver's license may drive any vehicle in the class for which the license is issued and lesser classes of vehicles except a motorcycle or moped.  The holder may drive a motorcycle only if authorization to drive a motorcycle is shown on the commercial driver's license and the requirements for issuance of a motorcycle license have been met.


http://www.statutes.legis.state.tx.us/Docs/TN/htm/TN.522.htm#522.041
7/7/2010 7:48:37 AM EDT
[#5]
there are exemptions like motorhomes with air brakes but i wouldn't know how to find them...
7/7/2010 10:25:22 AM EDT
[#6]
I've gotta ask.
What the hell were you driving as a personal vehicle that was over 26,001#?
We drive a one ton, pulling a 10K# trailer with a class C, at the shop all day long.
If you are the guy in NW Houston driving the Duece and a half, I would like to come see it!!
7/7/2010 12:07:25 PM EDT
[#7]
Quoted:
Sec. 522.041.  CLASSIFICATIONS.  (a)  The department may issue a Class A, Class B, or Class C commercial driver's license.
(b)  Class A covers a combination of vehicles with a gross combination weight rating of 26,001 pounds or more, if the gross vehicle weight rating of the towed vehicle or vehicles exceeds 10,000 pounds.
(c)  Class B covers:
    (1)  a single vehicle with a gross vehicle weight rating of 26,001 pounds or more;
    (2)  a single vehicle with a gross vehicle weight rating of 26,001 pounds or more towing a vehicle with a gross vehicle weight rating of 10,000 pounds or less;  and
    (3)  a vehicle designed to transport 24 passengers or more, including the driver.
(d)  Class C covers a single vehicle or combination of vehicles not described by Subsection (b) or (c) that is:
    (1)  designed to transport 16-23 passengers, including the driver;  or
    (2)  used in the transportation of hazardous materials that require the vehicle to be placarded under 49 C.F.R. Part 172, Subpart F.
(e)  The holder of a commercial driver's license may drive any vehicle in the class for which the license is issued and lesser classes of vehicles except a motorcycle or moped.  The holder may drive a motorcycle only if authorization to drive a motorcycle is shown on the commercial driver's license and the requirements for issuance of a motorcycle license have been met.


http://www.statutes.legis.state.tx.us/Docs/TN/htm/TN.522.htm#522.041



What are the Non-CDL classifications?


Would really suck to have to get a CDL just to drive around your Deuce.  No more Defensive Driving.
7/7/2010 12:45:36 PM EDT
[#8]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Sec. 522.041.  CLASSIFICATIONS.  (a)  The department may issue a Class A, Class B, or Class C commercial driver's license.
(b)  Class A covers a combination of vehicles with a gross combination weight rating of 26,001 pounds or more, if the gross vehicle weight rating of the towed vehicle or vehicles exceeds 10,000 pounds.
(c)  Class B covers:
    (1)  a single vehicle with a gross vehicle weight rating of 26,001 pounds or more;
    (2)  a single vehicle with a gross vehicle weight rating of 26,001 pounds or more towing a vehicle with a gross vehicle weight rating of 10,000 pounds or less;  and
    (3)  a vehicle designed to transport 24 passengers or more, including the driver.
(d)  Class C covers a single vehicle or combination of vehicles not described by Subsection (b) or (c) that is:
    (1)  designed to transport 16-23 passengers, including the driver;  or
    (2)  used in the transportation of hazardous materials that require the vehicle to be placarded under 49 C.F.R. Part 172, Subpart F.
(e)  The holder of a commercial driver's license may drive any vehicle in the class for which the license is issued and lesser classes of vehicles except a motorcycle or moped.  The holder may drive a motorcycle only if authorization to drive a motorcycle is shown on the commercial driver's license and the requirements for issuance of a motorcycle license have been met.


http://www.statutes.legis.state.tx.us/Docs/TN/htm/TN.522.htm#522.041



What are the Non-CDL classifications?


Would really suck to have to get a CDL just to drive around your Deuce.  No more Defensive Driving.


deuce weighs 13,000 and will haul 5000 on paper so you're well below 26,000.  no CDL needed.

7/7/2010 12:54:14 PM EDT
[#9]
5 ton military wrecker.

36,000 pound curb weight.   gvwr is something like 64k
7/7/2010 12:58:01 PM EDT
[#10]
I think you're gonna have a tough time passing that off as a "S.U.V."!
7/7/2010 1:08:29 PM EDT
[#11]
Quoted:
I think you're gonna have a tough time passing that off as a "S.U.V."!


I don't even really want to drive it very much.  Mostly it would be nice to have for lifting  things or pulling my own stuff out of the mud.  And just for general bragging rights in the mvpa club...

I can't imagine driving it more than 7 or 800 miles a year.  They're supposed to be real fuel hogs.
7/7/2010 2:07:57 PM EDT
[#12]
My Dad's neighbor haul's heavy equipment with a standard tractor trailer rig.  He got stopped and he was hauling a tractor with a front end loader and some type of rear implement.

He was told that not only that he had to have the tractor secured at 4 points (which he did) but he had to have a separate chain to tie down the bucket AND a separate chain for the rear implement.

Is there a problem with implements breaking the hitch pins and coming loose on the highway?

Seems like every pickup with a trailer is getting stopped our here in Southeast Dallas either by the Sheriff's commercial enforcement or DPS. We've gone back through all of our trailers making sure the break-away boxes, chains, lights, etc are up to snuff.
7/7/2010 2:41:14 PM EDT
[#13]
From the TX CDL manual:

Persons operating the following vehicles are exempt from a
Commercial Driver License:

1. A vehicle that is controlled and operated by a farmer;
and used to transport agricultural products, farm machinery,
or farm supplies to or from a farm; and not used in
the operations of a common or contract motor carrier; and
used within 150 air miles of the person’s farm.

2. A fire-fighting or emergency vehicle necessary to the
preservation of life or property or the execution of emergency
governmental functions, whether operated by an
employee of a political subdivision or by a volunteer fire
fighter (this includes operators of industrial emergency
vehicles);

3. A military vehicle, when operated for military purposes
by military personnel, members of the Reserves and
National Guard on active duty, including personnel on
full-time National Guard duty, personnel on part-time
training, and National Guard military technicians; or

4. A recreational vehicle that is driven for personal use.

5. A vehicle that is owned, leased, or controlled by an air
carrier, as defined by Texas Transportation Code (TRC),
Section 21.155, and that is driven or operated exclusively
by an employee of the air carrier only on the premises
of an airport, as defined by the TRC, Section 22.001, on
service roads to which the public does not have access.

6. A vehicle used exclusively to transport seed cotton
modules or cotton burrs.

Its up to you to convince them it is an RV.
7/7/2010 3:00:07 PM EDT
[#14]
Quoted:
From the TX CDL manual:

Persons operating the following vehicles are exempt from a
Commercial Driver License:

1. A vehicle that is controlled and operated by a farmer;
and used to transport agricultural products, farm machinery,
or farm supplies to or from a farm; and not used in
the operations of a common or contract motor carrier; and
used within 150 air miles of the person’s farm.


Define farmer.

7/8/2010 12:19:39 PM EDT
[#15]
I think i would take nosmik's advice.
Get a copy of the Texas CDL handbook, and keep it in the truck with a sticky note on that page.
Sorry, was playing devils jackass.
I think its badass!
PICS???????
I'll buy you dinner if we pull up to some snooty restaurant, and tell them to Valet it!!!!!!!!!
"I want it right next to the Bentley!!!!!"
7/8/2010 11:02:31 PM EDT
[#16]
Quoted:

Seems like every pickup with a trailer is getting stopped our here in Southeast Dallas either by the Sheriff's commercial enforcement or DPS. We've gone back through all of our trailers making sure the break-away boxes, chains, lights, etc are up to snuff.


The reason is stolen trailers are BIG business in TX.  Also, when we run a trailer tag, and it says " HOME MADE " and it's obviously NOT home made, something is not right.

Also, dont forget, trailers that have a GVWR of 4501LB or more are required to have an inspection sticker.  I see very few that actually have inspection stickers. It's a HUGE safety issue when some asshat is whizzing down the road at 65MPH with a trailer full of metal with bald tires and smoking brakes. I've cleaned up more than one jack-knifed on the highway.