Posted: 11/13/2009 7:03:17 PM EDT
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Down from 500+/day to under 50/day since the No-Speak-English Flap. So says WFAA.
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| My wife was telling me about this on Thursday. She ran into a Dallas officer that we both know and he told her what was going on. I feel it could backfire on the officers though as that loss of revenue means they will not have the budget to hire new officers, or they may have to let some go. That is a lot of money every day that the City of Dallas is losing. |
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My wife was telling me about this on Thursday. She ran into a Dallas officer that we both know and he told her what was going on. I feel it could backfire on the officers though as that loss of revenue means they will not have the budget to hire new officers, or they may have to let some go. That is a lot of money every day that the City of Dallas is losing. Well, if you believe some people around here, tickets have nothing to do with revenue generation, so you must be totally off base on them not being able to hire more officers or having to let some go... |
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My wife was telling me about this on Thursday. She ran into a Dallas officer that we both know and he told her what was going on. I feel it could backfire on the officers though as that loss of revenue means they will not have the budget to hire new officers, or they may have to let some go. That is a lot of money every day that the City of Dallas is losing. hmm clue me in.. what did i miss ? |
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My wife was telling me about this on Thursday. She ran into a Dallas officer that we both know and he told her what was going on. I feel it could backfire on the officers though as that loss of revenue means they will not have the budget to hire new officers, or they may have to let some go. That is a lot of money every day that the City of Dallas is losing. Well, if you believe some people around here, tickets have nothing to do with revenue generation, so you must be totally off base on them not being able to hire more officers or having to let some go... Do you know what percentage of the city of Dallas budget is ticket revenue? I do. Do you know how much the PD budget is based on the number of tickets they write? I do |
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Playing coy doesnt work for the ladies either - show the stats and be prepared to back them, or its just words and fluff.... If you are referring to ME, I am married, the "ladies" matter not anymore. ;) I have shown the stats here many times. I am not claiming that a reduction in tickets will result in a reduction in hiring. Prove THAT connection or it is just talking out of your ass ("You" meant in general terms. I realize you did not make the claim.) ALL fines and forfeitures for the City of Dallas account for less than 5% of the total GENERAL FUND revenue. That includes fines from code enforcement, the fire department, etc. The city bases the PD budget on 0% of the tickets they write or fines collected. Remember that tickets get dismissed, people found not guilty, etc, too. The PD budget comes from the general fund. |
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My wife was telling me about this on Thursday. She ran into a Dallas officer that we both know and he told her what was going on. I feel it could backfire on the officers though as that loss of revenue means they will not have the budget to hire new officers, or they may have to let some go. That is a lot of money every day that the City of Dallas is losing. Well, if you believe some people around here, tickets have nothing to do with revenue generation, so you must be totally off base on them not being able to hire more officers or having to let some go... God, i wish this incredibly stupid concept would die a painful death. Do the math. 500 tickets a day is 182,500 tickets per year. Now, the most expensive ticket I've ever gotten was $120 (In 1999) if we asume that ALL those tickets are $120 and that ALL those tickets are paid in a timely fashion, (Something that is never going to happen in real life,) The TOTAL amount of fines equals only $21, 900,000. The terminal at Love Field spends more than that on the electric bill. Heck, Dallas spent almost three times that on bike lanes. 
Now, Dallas has 3,500 police officers. In a perfect world where EVERYBODY pays their tickets that equals $6257 and change per officer. It also means the ticket ratio is 52 tickets per officer per YEAR. (One a WEEK if you are still keeping up) But wait, none of that money goes to the police dept budget in the first place. It goes to the general fund for city council members to waste at their leisure. So tell me again that police officers write tickets just for revenue? If they were funding the whole city budget you'd think they'd work harder than one ticket per WEEK. 
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Playing coy doesnt work for the ladies either - show the stats and be prepared to back them, or its just words and fluff.... If you are referring to ME, I am married, the "ladies" matter not anymore. ;) I have shown the stats here many times. I am not claiming that a reduction in tickets will result in a reduction in hiring. Prove THAT connection or it is just talking out of your ass ("You" meant in general terms. I realize you did not make the claim.) ALL fines and forfeitures for the City of Dallas account for less than 5% of the total GENERAL FUND revenue. That includes fines from code enforcement, the fire department, etc. The city bases the PD budget on 0% of the tickets they write or fines collected. Remember that tickets get dismissed, people found not guilty, etc, too. The PD budget comes from the general fund. Can you link to stats - not busting balls, just want to read up on how Dallas budget works, this might make good fodder for my Econ class..... |
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Playing coy doesnt work for the ladies either - show the stats and be prepared to back them, or its just words and fluff.... If you are referring to ME, I am married, the "ladies" matter not anymore. ;) I have shown the stats here many times. I am not claiming that a reduction in tickets will result in a reduction in hiring. Prove THAT connection or it is just talking out of your ass ("You" meant in general terms. I realize you did not make the claim.) ALL fines and forfeitures for the City of Dallas account for less than 5% of the total GENERAL FUND revenue. That includes fines from code enforcement, the fire department, etc. The city bases the PD budget on 0% of the tickets they write or fines collected. Remember that tickets get dismissed, people found not guilty, etc, too. The PD budget comes from the general fund. Can you link to stats - not busting balls, just want to read up on how Dallas budget works, this might make good fodder for my Econ class..... http://www.dallascityhall.com/Budget/adopted0809/FinancialSummaries.pdf All public/government financial data is available for viewing in Texas. Even salaries of all public employee's is available. If you want to know what you son's teacher is making, you can find that out. I can look up every single cop and know exactly what they make (as can you and everyone else), including their salary and overtime too. Basically, if it is financial and it is government (especially state and local), then you can always look it up. |
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Playing coy doesnt work for the ladies either - show the stats and be prepared to back them, or its just words and fluff.... If you are referring to ME, I am married, the "ladies" matter not anymore. ;) I have shown the stats here many times. I am not claiming that a reduction in tickets will result in a reduction in hiring. Prove THAT connection or it is just talking out of your ass ("You" meant in general terms. I realize you did not make the claim.) ALL fines and forfeitures for the City of Dallas account for less than 5% of the total GENERAL FUND revenue. That includes fines from code enforcement, the fire department, etc. The city bases the PD budget on 0% of the tickets they write or fines collected. Remember that tickets get dismissed, people found not guilty, etc, too. The PD budget comes from the general fund. So the city will actually save money since the cops won't be able to collect on that overtime sitting in traffic court. |
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Quoted: A few weeks back, DPD officer ticketed someone for not speaking English. All kinds of hoopla and gnashing of teeth and now it seems that the officers may not be writing citations in protest. Quoted: Quoted: While it is small as an percentage of the pie, 40+ million dollars is a lot of money. This. So what did the city do to piss the cops off and now they are not writing tickets? Yeah, I'd like to know the backstory of this, sounds entertaining |
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My wife was telling me about this on Thursday. She ran into a Dallas officer that we both know and he told her what was going on. I feel it could backfire on the officers though as that loss of revenue means they will not have the budget to hire new officers, or they may have to let some go. That is a lot of money every day that the City of Dallas is losing. anyone who thinks this does not have a firm grasp on where the revenue from traffic fines goes or how it is used. as much as I don't like agreeing with TxInvestigator he is 100% correct on this. |
| Add it up with all the other BS taxes, fees, assessments, etc. that the guberment puts on our backs, they're into our pockets close to 50%. It doesn't matter how much you spin it, it's still about taking money from the citizens and putting it into their coffers so they can spend it. |
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here is the link since it wasn't included
http://www.wfaa.com/sharedcontent/dws/wfaa/localnews/news8/stories/wfaa091114_wz_ticketfolo.2b46e8eea.html |
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wait so you're telling me that there is a municipal law in Dallas that you are not allowed to drive a car if you dont speak English??? Surely Im mistaken here since this would be national news if correct.... Yes, you are mistaken. these kinds of posts are a little frustrating, i dont care if you know and dont want to tell me. Its like playing kindergarden keep away with facts and knowledge. If you dont want to fill me in fine, dont post at all, but dont expect me to beg you to give me details. Unless of course you didnt even intend on informing us after we asked and just chimed in becuase you like telling people that they are wrong. In both regards you loose socially. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: wait so you're telling me that there is a municipal law in Dallas that you are not allowed to drive a car if you dont speak English??? Surely Im mistaken here since this would be national news if correct.... Yes, you are mistaken. these kinds of posts are a little frustrating, |
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wait so you're telling me that there is a municipal law in Dallas that you are not allowed to drive a car if you dont speak English??? Surely Im mistaken here since this would be national news if correct.... Yes, you are mistaken. these kinds of posts are a little frustrating, i dont care if you know and dont want to tell me. Its like playing kindergarden keep away with facts and knowledge. If you dont want to fill me in fine, dont post at all, but dont expect me to beg you to give me details. Unless of course you didnt even intend on informing us after we asked and just chimed in becuase you like telling people that they are wrong. In both regards you loose socially. "Us" "we"? YOU are the only one asking the question. I don't care when or if you want me to post. I loose socially? You crack me up with your ineptness. Are your police reports so poorly written? |
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Ok apparently there is a federal law that madates all "commerical lorry drivers" must speak english.
If the department is going to successfully hammer this minority of officers and supervisors in order to save its own ass and deflect political pressure and public scrutiny, they must also be able to prove that the officers intentionally cited hispanic people because they hate them and not becuase they are misinformaed. Granted, i dont have much faith that the department will be hindered in screwing up these officers careers, but not i see that the rumor within the department isnt far off. Its good to see Dallas PD's officers sticking together though. |