Posted: 5/3/2009 11:03:38 AM EDT
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So I think I am good to go, but check me on this.
No 30.06 at the door, no statment about no weapons in the employee hand book. |
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So I think I am good to go, but check me on this. No 30.06 at the door, no statment about no weapons in the employee hand book. Criminally, unless you are given 30.06 notice you can carry anywhere not prohibited under penal code 46.03,and 46.035 (schools, secured areas of airports, courts, etc.) If you are given notice that does not comply with 30.06 and are caught carrying of course you can be terminated. I imagine they could terminate you even if the never gave you notice not to carry, as Texas is an "at will" employment state. |
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But... concealed means CONCEALED. The only way they should ever know you're carrying is if youhave to use it. If you get fired after saving the lives of a few people, first, it's messed up that they fired you, second, it's worth it. ^^^This^^^ I carry every day. I work for my dad, so it's no big deal. He knows. But the girl's that work here in the office were shocked when they found out. Not that I carried, but that they couldn't see it. Ed Brown 5" 1911 in a Milt Sparks VM2 holster. |
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Someone at my work F'd up and somehow exposed their concealled carry gun and jacked it up for everyone. Now they have 30.06 sighns on the building and at the entrances to the parking lot. Now I cant even leave my gun in the car. sounds like you need to contract your reps and let them know you WANT the parking lot bill to pass. |
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Someone at my work F'd up and somehow exposed their concealled carry gun and jacked it up for everyone. Now they have 30.06 sighns on the building and at the entrances to the parking lot. Now I cant even leave my gun in the car. I have to do some reading and consult a few people, but here are my initial thoughts. You do not need a CHL to car carry. When you carry in your car you are not carrying under the authority of a CHL. The 30.06 signs specifically address carry under a CHL, so 30.06 signs do not apply to a handgun in your car. |
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Yeah but even if they pass that bill I still think the 30.06 sign stops chl holders from carrying on the property while non chl can carry in the car. No, the bill would prevent employers for barring you from having your firearm in your vehicle. It is also worth noting that 30.06 signs only mention handguns. They say absolutely nothing about long guns. Does the bill prevent employers from being able to prohibit you from having just handguns in your vehicle, or any firearm? The way you word your reply it implies any firearm. |
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Yeah but even if they pass that bill I still think the 30.06 sign stops chl holders from carrying on the property while non chl can carry in the car. No, the bill would prevent employers for barring you from having your firearm in your vehicle. It is also worth noting that 30.06 signs only mention handguns. They say absolutely nothing about long guns. Does the bill prevent employers from being able to prohibit you from having just handguns in your vehicle, or any firearm? The way you word your reply it implies any firearm. Two points first. 30.06 ONLY applies to handguns carried under authority of your CHL. Car carry is legal without a CHL, so in your CAR, you are not carrying under authority of your CHL. So 30.06 would not apply. By: Hegar S.B. No. 730
A BILL TO BE ENTITLED AN ACT relating to an employee's transportation and storage of certain firearms or ammunition while on certain property owned or controlled by the employee's employer. BE IT ENACTED BY THE LEGISLATURE OF THE STATE OF TEXAS: SECTION 1. Chapter 52, Labor Code, is amended by adding Subchapter G to read as follows: SUBCHAPTER G. RESTRICTIONS ON PROHIBITING EMPLOYEE TRANSPORTATION OR STORAGE OF CERTAIN FIREARMS OR AMMUNITION Sec. 52.061. RESTRICTION ON PROHIBITING EMPLOYEE ACCESS TO OR STORAGE OF FIREARM OR AMMUNITION. (a) A public or private employer may not prohibit an employee who holds a license to carry a concealed handgun under Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code, who otherwise lawfully possesses a firearm, or who lawfully possesses ammunition from transporting or storing a firearm or ammunition the employee is authorized by law to possess in a locked, privately owned motor vehicle in a parking lot, parking garage, or other parking area the employer provides for employees.(b) Except in cases of gross negligence, a public or private employer or the employer's agent is not liable in a civil action, other than a civil action based on a violation of Subsection (a), for damages resulting from or arising out of an occurrence involving a firearm or ammunition transported or stored in accordance with this section. (c) This section does not prohibit a public or private employer from adopting a policy requiring that any firearm described by Subsection (a), while on property controlled by the employer, must be stored in a locked, privately owned motor vehicle and hidden from plain view or locked in a case or container located in the vehicle while the vehicle is unattended. (d) This section does not prohibit a public or private employer from prohibiting an employee who holds a license to carry a concealed handgun under Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code, or who otherwise lawfully possesses a firearm, from transporting or storing a firearm the employee is authorized by law to possess in a locked, privately owned motor vehicle in a parking area the employer provides employees if: (1) access to the parking area is restricted or limited through the use of a fence, gate, security station, sign, or other means of restricting or limiting general public access; and (2) the employer provides: (A) an alternative location on the employer's property for the employee to securely store the employee's unloaded firearm while on the employer's property; or (B) an alternative parking area reasonably close to the main parking area in which employees and other persons may transport or store firearms in locked, privately owned motor vehicles. (e) This section does not prohibit an employer from prohibiting an employee who holds a license to carry a concealed handgun under Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code, or who otherwise lawfully possesses a firearm, from possessing a firearm the employee is otherwise authorized by law to possess on the premises of the employer's business. In this subsection, "premises" has the meaning assigned by Section 46.035(f)(3), Penal Code. (f) This section does not apply to a vehicle owned or leased by a public or private employer and used by an employee in the course and scope of the employee's employment, unless the employee is required to transport or store a firearm in the official discharge of the employee's duties. (g) This section does not authorize a person who holds a license to carry a concealed handgun under Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code, who otherwise lawfully possesses a firearm, or who lawfully possesses ammunition to possess a firearm or ammunition on any property where the possession of a firearm or ammunition is prohibited by state or federal law. SECTION 2. Section 411.203, Government Code, is amended to read as follows: Sec. 411.203. RIGHTS OF EMPLOYERS. This subchapter does not prevent or otherwise limit the right of a public or private employer to prohibit persons who are licensed under this subchapter from carrying a concealed handgun on the premises of the business. In this subsection, "premises" has the meaning assigned by Section 46.035(f)(3), Penal Code. SECTION 3. The change in law made by this Act applies only to a cause of action that accrues on or after the effective date of this Act. A cause of action that accrues before that date is governed by the law as it existed immediately before the effective date of this Act, and that law is continued in effect for that purpose. SECTION 4. This Act takes effect September 1, 2009. |
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By: Hegar S.B. No. 730
A BILL TO BE ENTITLED AN ACT relating to an employee's transportation and storage of certain firearms or ammunition while on certain property owned or controlled by the employee's employer. BE IT ENACTED BY THE LEGISLATURE OF THE STATE OF TEXAS: SECTION 1. Chapter 52, Labor Code, is amended by adding Subchapter G to read as follows: SUBCHAPTER G. RESTRICTIONS ON PROHIBITING EMPLOYEE TRANSPORTATION OR STORAGE OF CERTAIN FIREARMS OR AMMUNITION Sec. 52.061. RESTRICTION ON PROHIBITING EMPLOYEE ACCESS TO OR STORAGE OF FIREARM OR AMMUNITION. (a) A public or private employer may not prohibit an employee who holds a license to carry a concealed handgun under Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code, who otherwise lawfully possesses a firearm, or who lawfully possesses ammunition from transporting or storing a firearm or ammunition the employee is authorized by law to possess in a locked, privately owned motor vehicle in a parking lot, parking garage, or other parking area the employer provides for employees.(b) Except in cases of gross negligence, a public or private employer or the employer's agent is not liable in a civil action, other than a civil action based on a violation of Subsection (a), for damages resulting from or arising out of an occurrence involving a firearm or ammunition transported or stored in accordance with this section. (c) This section does not prohibit a public or private employer from adopting a policy requiring that any firearm described by Subsection (a), while on property controlled by the employer, must be stored in a locked, privately owned motor vehicle and hidden from plain view or locked in a case or container located in the vehicle while the vehicle is unattended. (d) This section does not prohibit a public or private employer from prohibiting an employee who holds a license to carry a concealed handgun under Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code, or who otherwise lawfully possesses a firearm, from transporting or storing a firearm the employee is authorized by law to possess in a locked, privately owned motor vehicle in a parking area the employer provides employees if: (1) access to the parking area is restricted or limited through the use of a fence, gate, security station, sign, or other means of restricting or limiting general public access; and (2) the employer provides: (A) an alternative location on the employer's property for the employee to securely store the employee's unloaded firearm while on the employer's property; or (B) an alternative parking area reasonably close to the main parking area in which employees and other persons may transport or store firearms in locked, privately owned motor vehicles. (e) This section does not prohibit an employer from prohibiting an employee who holds a license to carry a concealed handgun under Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code, or who otherwise lawfully possesses a firearm, from possessing a firearm the employee is otherwise authorized by law to possess on the premises of the employer's business. In this subsection, "premises" has the meaning assigned by Section 46.035(f)(3), Penal Code. (f) This section does not apply to a vehicle owned or leased by a public or private employer and used by an employee in the course and scope of the employee's employment, unless the employee is required to transport or store a firearm in the official discharge of the employee's duties. (g) This section does not authorize a person who holds a license to carry a concealed handgun under Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code, who otherwise lawfully possesses a firearm, or who lawfully possesses ammunition to possess a firearm or ammunition on any property where the possession of a firearm or ammunition is prohibited by state or federal law. SECTION 2. Section 411.203, Government Code, is amended to read as follows: Sec. 411.203. RIGHTS OF EMPLOYERS. This subchapter does not prevent or otherwise limit the right of a public or private employer to prohibit persons who are licensed under this subchapter from carrying a concealed handgun on the premises of the business. In this subsection, "premises" has the meaning assigned by Section 46.035(f)(3), Penal Code. SECTION 3. The change in law made by this Act applies only to a cause of action that accrues on or after the effective date of this Act. A cause of action that accrues before that date is governed by the law as it existed immediately before the effective date of this Act, and that law is continued in effect for that purpose. SECTION 4. This Act takes effect September 1, 2009. So am I correct to interpret that this only protects CHL holders even for long guns? Well, it sounds like it is a step in the right direction anyway... |