Posted: 4/29/2009 8:42:40 AM EDT
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I am trying to help out a friend who is a writer. She is looking for the lingo, correct call, for the following situation. It's probaby so simple, but, I can't remember...
A patrol is lost in the desert with no GPS. The parent unit is requesting their location. I thought it was - What is your Twenty? Thanks!!! |
| "What's your twenty?" would be "ten-code" as in 10-20 as used over police radio. In the military they tend to just plain ask for coordinates/location. No real lingo involved. Only thing would be that they'll want the info in either 6 digit or 8 digit grid format. 6 digit would be something like UM123456 and would get you down to a 100 meter radius, 8 digit would be UM12345678 and would be to 10 meter radius. The UM at the beginning is the grid square identifier and is on every military map worldwide. |
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"What's your twenty?" would be "ten-code" as in 10-20 as used over police radio. In the military they tend to just plain ask for coordinates/location. No real lingo involved. Only thing would be that they'll want the info in either 6 digit or 8 digit grid format. 6 digit would be something like UM123456 and would get you down to a 100 meter radius, 8 digit would be UM12345678 and would be to 10 meter radius. The UM at the beginning is the grid square identifier and is on every military map worldwide. Exactly as he said, however if she wants to read direct quotes of a unit that is lost and it's parent company asking for their location have her read "Blackhawk Down". That book has a lot of direct quotes from recordings during the fight. Don't watch the stinkin movie. As great as the movie is, it's blown away by the book. |
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In the cav the higher headquarters would most likely ask for the subordinate units front line trace.
It would sound like this. Gunfighter 7 this is Mustang Mike over. Mustang Mike this is Gunfighter 7 Gunfighter7 what is your frontline trace. That is the book way. We would most likely go like this after a while. Gunfighter 7, Mustang Mike over Gunfighter7 over. Gunfighter 7, frontline trace over Also the higher unit could ask for a sitrep (Situation Report) in an attempt to ascertain the units location. Another option is to just come out and just ask. Gunfighter 7 this is mustang mike what is your current location. |
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Just a dumb question are you currently serving? I'm just wondering, because we use all those aids to transmit locations. However we don't hesitate to send our location in an open fashion now because, current frequency hopping technology and encryption make signal intercept and decryption virtually impossible. It is unheard of if you lack the Freq hop set and or the cypher set. This is why my encryption and cypher text device could not leave the base in Iraq. When I first entered the army we did not transmit our locations unless they were encoded or used one oft he aids lyou mentioned.. However this has changed with the addition of the above technology. Now as to the RF(radio Freq) direction finding deal brought up. the freq hop makes that idea impossible to do unless you possessed the hopping set. POS????????????? I have never heard of this. I have been in the Army for 17 yrs. So unless this is a Marine term I can not say this would ever , or has ever been used in my time in the Army. |
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Now as to the RF(radio Freq) direction finding deal brought up. the freq hop makes that idea impossible to do unless you possessed the hopping set. I'm not too sure I understand what you are saying. Under the given story line, the HQ is trying to communicate with the lost patrol. In that scenario if they are using frequency hopping communications equipment, both the transmitter and receiver are hopping in sync (or they would not be able to communicate). As long at the receivers are able to understand the transmission, the use of a directional antenna from two locations would still allow for triangulation. |
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Recon Just a dumb question are you currently serving? I'm just wondering, because we use all those aids to transmit locations. However we don't hesitate to send our location in an open fashion now because, current frequency hopping technology and encryption make signal intercept and decryption virtually impossible. It is unheard of if you lack the Freq hop set and or the cypher set. This is why my encryption and cypher text device could not leave the base in Iraq. When I first entered the army we did not transmit our locations unless they were encoded or used one oft he aids lyou mentioned.. However this has changed with the addition of the above technology. Now as to the RF(radio Freq) direction finding deal brought up. the freq hop makes that idea impossible to do unless you possessed the hopping set. POS????????????? I have never heard of this. I have been in the Army for 17 yrs. So unless this is a Marine term I can not say this would ever , or has ever been used in my time in the Army. I second this. POS means piece of shit, not position. We all know that. |
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Recon Just a dumb question are you currently serving? I'm just wondering, because we use all those aids to transmit locations. However we don't hesitate to send our location in an open fashion now because, current frequency hopping technology and encryption make signal intercept and decryption virtually impossible. It is unheard of if you lack the Freq hop set and or the cypher set. This is why my encryption and cypher text device could not leave the base in Iraq. When I first entered the army we did not transmit our locations unless they were encoded or used one oft he aids lyou mentioned.. However this has changed with the addition of the above technology. Now as to the RF(radio Freq) direction finding deal brought up. the freq hop makes that idea impossible to do unless you possessed the hopping set. POS????????????? I have never heard of this. I have been in the Army for 17 yrs. So unless this is a Marine term I can not say this would ever , or has ever been used in my time in the Army. I second this. POS means piece of shit, not position. We all know that. obviously the last dragon don't know land nav. |