Posted: 11/8/2007 4:34:13 AM EDT
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Elm Fork is opening it's pistol bays this weekend. Both paper and steel bay will be open for shooting. The paper bay has two reactionary plates at 30 yards to test your trigger control. Two plate racks will be available for rental, and they have a training bay. The three Hogan's alley's are slated to open in a month or two. I know the issue of FMJ has come up and I discussed the subject with the owner. When the rifle range opens it will be FMJ FRIENDLY. Common sense prevailed to sound thinkers. They will not allow any steel ammo of any kind. If a magnet stick to it you can't shoot it. Tiger Valley will be running classes and plate rack leagues on site in the next month or so. |
FMJ is copper over lead core.............Steelcore is just that, copper over steel. ETA: they don't have a copper magnet.......yet. |
Ahhh....thanks. One never stops learning I guess. 
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Well thats the case sometimes i have surplus ammo that will attract a magnet but is lead core. Why it attracts a magnet i dunno but it is for sure lead core. A range i go to has some bolt cutters on hand and if the round sticks to a magnet they crush the bullet to see whats inside if its lead then you can shoot it might try something like that. Cant wait to see the new place haveing a place that allows fmj again will be awesome....
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| Everything will be posted on both my site, tigervalley.com and Elmfork.com. Tiger Valley will be handling all the events, classes, leagues and so on. The day to day rentals are and fees are not our doing. For the next few weeks it will be open on weekends only. We have lights going in as we speak and night shooting should follow. I know that the price for shooting on any paper bay has remained the same, $15.00 per day. They so have some dingers on the paper bays, a six inch and 14 inch at 30 yards. The rifle range will not be open until February 2008. That is the largest project, and knowing it wouldn't be done by deer season anyway it was put on hold. It looks like the plate rack bays and a sixty foot paper bay will be open this weekend. Unfortunately anything magnetic won't be allowed on the range. I don't see the girl at the counter using bolt cutters to test each shooters bullet core. You can always shoot that at tigervalley south, we don't care.....T.J. |
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Elm Fork has always allowed outside folks to hold classes on the combat range. For example, I have done CHL and Security commission shooting there, and did a 2 day "stressfire" course for a company that has a govt contract and requires that additional training for its guards. Will this practice continue, and who do I call? |
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Hey TJ, It was nice speaking with you today at Elm Fork...things are really looking up. I like the way you explained things.... Pistol work at Elm Fork for those of us up north and everything else will remain in Waco. Hope the MK people passed their objectives... 
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Essentially - there are three common bullet types, in FMJ: 1. Lead core, copper jacket. This is most typical for 5.56 surplus ammo - M193 variety, and the lest expensive reloading bullets. This is also a common 7.62x51 (.308) surplus bullet.... as in South African. Wolf ammo is often this variety as well.... in .223 and 7.62x39 variety. 2. Steel core (inner) penetrator, with a lead core, and copper jacket. This is commonly known as SS109/M855 - the current 62 gr ammo used by NATO countries. It has a very small steel core penetrator, surrounded by lead, then a copper jacket. While it will attract a magnet, the attraction is very slight. There is some steel core 7.62x39 around (norinco), and then any armor piercing 7.62x51 ball ammo... which has a much larger penetrator core. 3. Lead core, steel jacket. This is typical for very cheap 5.56 surplus, but most often found in many varieties of 7.62x51 surplus, and some varieties of Wolf ammo in .223 and 7.62x39. It is lead core, but instead of copper, it has a mild steel jacket, with a copper wash. A magnet will stick to this with authority. |
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We shot a class with TJ last weekend. The lanes that are open are very nice. The lanes are concrete. So if it is raining no walking in the mud, plus you are shooting under cover. In the class we were shooting 2 plate racks and a dueling tree. Shooting the steel really sparked a lot of intrest. One guy was talking about going to buy a pistol just to shoot the steel. The manager that runs both the shotgun and the rifle/pistol sides cam over and visited with us. She seems to have a good approach to running the place. We had a great time. It is great place for classes with food near by (a real nice $5 buffet). |