Posted: 5/27/2007 4:32:08 PM EDT
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I'm passing this along. In the new issue of Texas Fish & Game...this is a lengthy article by the EDITOR. traveling with a hand gun. In 2005 the 79th legislature addressed with HB 823 that was signed into law, which states: A PESON IS PRESUMED TO BE TRAVELING IF THE PERSON IS...1. in a private motor vehicle,2. not otherwise engaged in criminal activity, other than a Class C misdemeanor that is a violation of a law or ordinance regulating traffic. 3.not othewise prohibited by law from possessing a firearm. 4 not a member of a criminal steetgang, as defined by Section 71.01, and 5. not carring a handgun in plain view. ACCORDING TO DOCUMENTS TEXAS ACLU ATTORNYES ACQUIRED UNDER THE TEXAS OPEN RECORDS ACT. NO FEWER THAT 13 COUNTY AND DISTRICT ATTORNEYS HAVE INSTRUCTED LOCAL POLICE TO IGNORE THE LAW AND ARREST TEXANS OR TAKE THEIR GUNS, EVEN IF LEGALLY CARRING A GUN UNDER HB 823, following counties, Kendall, Delta, Tarrant, Travis, Kerr, Fort Bend, Houston, Hunt, Bell, Parker, mcLennan, Colorado, some prosectors illegally did not respond to the ACLU'S ORA request, ther might be others. the above was taken from the TFF&G latest issue which can be found at academy stores and news stands. And then he states, I was in Cabelas this morning, one of the guys at the gun counter told me one their customers had purchased a handgun, on the way back to Austin, was stopped (don't know the reason) gun was seized. may have been in plain site, I have a copy of this report in my truck, just for back up. my only reason for posting this is so more people can be aware of what "could happen" And another guy said, I recently got one of the many calls from the NRA wanting donations. They said that there has been a bill introduced, that is also being pushed by Pelosi, that makes the Brady Bill look Mickey Mouse. I failed to write down the bill number or the author, and I can’t find anything on it. Anybody know what it is? I said yes it's HR 1022 and it does make the brady bill look tame. I don't like this and can't swear it's true but i know the man that posted it and i'll contact him by email but i'm sure it can be read in the new TF&G book. If you carry,just be careful. |
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You can add Harris County to the list. The D.A. apparently thinks its up to the individual to prove he/she is innocent. I thought I learned in Police school that it was Innocent until proven guilty. HUH..........go figure. I often check into peoples prior history before deciding on weather or not to place them in custody for the weapon. Most people get let go. Unfortunatly the two convicted felons I checked into were not let go. I chose to place them in custody and the D.A. accepted felony charges on them for Felon in Possession of a Firearm. Being that police work is all about officer discretion I choose to give people who have alot of prior criminal history less leway than someone who has none. No criminal history = just traveling. |
Reads like this: As defined by BrainyQuote, Tyranny of Government: The government or authority of a tyrant; a country governed by an absolute ruler; hence, arbitrary or despotic exercise of power; exercise of power over subjects and others with a rigor not authorized by law or justice, or not requisite for the purposes of government. I'm not suprised.....after all, even in Texas we have our despots, tyrants and demigods......alot of them have law degrees and badges.....some even claim to represent us. We're just better prepared and motivated to deal with them than many.... CPO US Navy (Retired) |
If a person gets pulled over i would think the officer would radio for information on that person and if that person has feloney background then he should expect to be taken into custody but i thought any person caught in said countys and with no arresting history the officer is supposed to confiscate the weapon as instructed by said officials in that county.Am i reading the article i posted above wrong ?. Thanks. |
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All this will be cleared up in the next week when Perry signs HB 1815. 1815 will CLEARLY clarify the traveling issue by removing the offense of having a handgun in you car. Your car is now an extension of your home. "HB 1815, by Rep. Carl Isett (R-Lubbock) and Sen. Juan "Chuy" Hinojosa (D-McAllen), removes the offense of having a handgun in your vehicle or a vehicle under your control. The person must be eligible under state and federal law to possess a firearm, the handgun cannot be in plain sight, the person must not be a member of a street gang as defined by law, and cannot be involved in criminal activity other than a minor traffic violation." Perry has already indicated he will sign this bill.  CMOS |
Wow, this is great news! |
Here. here. With inquiries into the CHL registry now closed to everyone but law enforcement agencies, one of the main gripes about getting a CHL is now a moot point. I see acquiring a CHL as a low-risk, high-yield investment in personal safety and security. Plus, given the sometime hassles of the NICS system, isn't the instant approval for firearms purchases worth it? Jeremy |
Because of the ridiculous way the boundaries are drawn, he's [unfortunately] not my rep. Instead, I get the mummified remains of the guy who just a couple days ago had his eyes on the Speaker's seat instead of his own retirement, which is where they *should* be. Isett is also the driving force behind 86ing the red light cameras. He needs all of our support, but especially that of those in his district. |
I appreciate the CHL law but due to personal conviction(s) refuse to treat a right like a privilege. The CHL is great for [among other things] the convenience factor. It's just encumbent upon those of us who prefer to wear it as a right to be more aware of the law(s) and more active in the process of government. ETA: POOR_MAN, your avatar rocks. |
CHL's are a good thing. But i regard this as more a fringe benefit. I doubt many people buy firearms from FFL's very often. I know i don't. |
Please explain. This is an honest question, how is it a right to carry concealed? I see the right to keep and bear arms, but no right to carry concealed. Its a state right. I have my opinions of the class which I may explain later. The class will explain the law, and makes you look like a good guy if you go through the process, I dont see the negative. Espically if your concerned about traveling with a handgun. I know it will not be a problem soon, but still the CHL is well worth it. |
I never said it was. Then again, I never said it wasn't.  If'n it ever becomes an issue, then I guess me an' the ol' state will have us a talk about it. But I'm not going to concede the point to them in advance by applying for a CHL. IMO, the mere act of application [to the State, asking it to grant me this "favor"] is a de facto admission that the State *does* in fact have the power/authority to regulate this.
I agree, but only to a point. Ask a LEO, who deals with shitballs of every color/stripe every day, what a CHL means to them. Some will say it means you're a good egg. Others will say it only meant you were a good egg at the time the license was granted (and, of course, for a certain amount of "lead-in" time). Ask a jury, and you're liable to get 12 different answers, but the majority of them probably unfavorable (despite the fact that you have to be *more* law-abiding than the "average" citizen to be issued a CHL, they're probably likely to be suspicious of the licensee's desire to arm him/her self "when there's a perfectly good 911 system in place"). Granted, more so in urban areas than rural, statistically-speaking.
I agree. The convenience factor is a HUGE selling point.
It is for most. It is not for me, at this point in my life. I do pimp CHLs on my website and my online family album (where one of my photos would normally go, there's a pic/scan of the front and back of the TSRA "business card" for CHLs), encouraging every law-abiding Texan to procure one. But just because it makes me feel safer, considering the market (the ppl who visit my website and online family album, I *want* to be armed at all times). |
6000 posts and you can't hotlink?????? GEEZZZZZ!!!!! oh well, at least he always posts good info!  www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=8&f=8&t=270008 TXL |
Didn't one of our own get stopped and bent over by some LEO's in Travis county? Voming back from the hun farm. TXL |
ARFCOM is 8 years old and they still have not fixed this to be auto-magic? 
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Ben (aka The_Emu), IIRC. Can't remember who started the thread, but it wasn't him. Maybe SC-Texas? ETA: Damn, my search-fu is strong today! link ETA2: If memory serves, it was Park Police and not TCSO or APD. |
The Texas Constitution Article 1 - BILL OF RIGHTS Section 23 - RIGHT TO KEEP AND BEAR ARMS Every citizen shall have the right to keep and bear arms in the lawful defense of himself or the State; but the Legislature shall have power, by law, to regulate the wearing of arms, with a view to prevent crime. I do not like it anymore than you do, but, It seems to me the people have clearly given the State power/authority to regulate the wearing of arms in Texas. |
At both you and 33shooter: It's just personal opinion/conviction. Never said it had force of law. ETA: Renegade, not that it would ever even come to it, but if it did, I would rather have it decided on the letter of the TX St Const than have it summarily dismissed because I'd once applied for a CHL. |