[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Bug Out Drill (Page 1 of 6)
Posted: 4/29/2007 7:03:48 AM EDT
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Tiger Valley will host its second annual Bug Out Drill, September 29, 2007. We will run the same distance as last year, 15 miles, but the physical challenges will be tougher. For those who didn't attend the last event, the idea for this was spawned from reading the survival forum. I, like a lot of people don't believe that something does what it claims without a test; hence, the But Out Drill was born. As last year the challenge was to move and recover family members who are a distance away. For the sake of argument an EMP has disabled all vehicles, I know some of you have spare parts wrapped in foil, but we have to keep this on an even keel. That means you have to travel the entire rought on foot, no bikes, 4-wheelers Gurka's or Donkey's allowed on the course. You must carry everything you need for the event on your person. We will have a hydration station that you can top off water during the event. Last years event had 20 physical challenges, everything from having to cut through chain link fence to triage a tactical mannequin. This year I plan on making some of the challenges technically and physically more challenging. I won't go into detail on the plans but nothing is off the table. We had 27 hard-core contestants compete last year. Everyone made a great effort, and from the feedback, learned allot from the experience. As the concept stated last year, you don't have to complete each event. If the event is to challenging, you can by-pass it and take the penalty. Remember, this event is designed to test you and your equipment, not kill you. We don't want to run those off who might be intimidated at some events. I need some feedback from you guys on one area. I thought it might be good to require those attending to camp out on Friday night. Pitch whatever survival tent you have and take off in the morning. This idea is still up for grabs so let me know what you think. The price for the event will be the same as last year, $150.00. I will start getting prizes as soon as I get back from this class in Waco. |
| I like the idea of being onsite the night before. It could also allow for an earlier start to the event. I think it would allow for more people to get to know each other before the start. One thing that I have enjoyed about Tiger Valley is getting to know more people. Along the trail of this event I got to know several and it helps to push yourself. |
About 1½ hours, down 35 and turn left at Bellmead and about 17 miles to Watt. I hope this gives you a general idea. I think the website www.tigervalley.com has directions and a link to a map. mm |
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Although I think we should have it in August, the heat really put a hurting on most people. That said, I hope it is hotter than all hell in September. I will be more ready than I was last year. Should be great. I hope that TJ took a look at my ideas on the previos BO post. LOL. James |
I agree with the above. Also, camping is a bit cheaper than a motel. I can put that $50 toward a multitool. |
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A "beating" b/c you rode home with the W? Or, a "beating" b/c it was a difficult event and things just plain sucked afterward..... Dude, you and HB were not even breathing hard at the end. Maybe TJ will give us a preview of things to come.....just a little preview..... As far as camping out, I don't really care too much, I was planning on sleeping in the van again, like I did for the 3-gun. That is my survival tent. The only thing I want to know if if I need to hump my rappelling gear. Other than that, I am good to go. James |
If you're talking about me, I was done in after the 2nd lap. I may have been able to make the third lap, though it would have taken me several more hours. I'm in better shape now than I was last summer, and I'm interested to see how much better I could do. By next September my domestic situation should be simplified (it darn well better be!). Making any plans right now is difficult. |
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Naw Lawdog, thing just plain sucked for a while as the body cooled off and tensed up. Schulze and I were not breathing hard because you gave us our second wind after seeing you laying on the ground telling us that you couldn't hold anything down....(thanks for that) TJ did give us a preview, BUGOUT '06... TJ sure has a vivid imagination. |
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Sorry, wrong dude. I was referring to Schultze. Actually, I wasn't laying on the ground, I was laying on the wire. You SOB's running past, with 5# of gear on, tennis shoes, Evian in hand, just plain pissed me off. Fockers! I should have puked all over that wire. Heck, I distributed puke evenly across the course. Let's see,....I left puke.. next to the wall on lap two next to the wire on lap two over by the 1000m range on lap three and lest we not forget, next to the wire cutting on lap two (if you look around, you will find my ammo can out there also. I hope TJ hits it with the mower...kidding). Actually, I have to clarify, the puke at the end of lap three really wasn't puke, it was just a bit of water followed by a mile of dry heaves. James |
I went around for the rest of that day, and a later date picking up abandoned ammo cans. I'm not sure I found all of them. We did find the magazine carrier, I think that was mailed back to the owner. |
Well *maybe* if we spend a few days hiking around your place like you were talking about three months ago you could be in better shape come September... And you know why I was killing myself to go so fast? It was seeing all you guys at the start with your $2,000 Gucci ARs (except you have an FAL) and Ralph Lauren chest rigs. Spooked me, it did!
Yes, thank you much! |
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I was in excellent shape. Just not a skinny rodent runner like you and Airone. Plus, I was in BDU's and carrying 50# of gear w/rifle, not some sissy folder AK and a tiny backpack that didn't even have a multi-tool.....LOL If I see you attempting to break anything with the AK this year, I will probably have to hit you with something solid, like my FAL....LOL James |
| I can't wait to get in on this. Not so sure sbout the camping. I wouldn't mind it if it wasn't extra gear I had to hump all day. That added wait and not being able to leave anything on the side of the trail could be a really bad thing. Looks like you can only shave so much weight off. |
| Can't wait for "TJ's Death March ll" the sequel. I really learned a lot on the first one about what works and what just sounds good. Some thoughts I had are denote the difference between "necessary" field problems and bonus problems, i.e. rope crossing vs. catching a fish. Maybe have a minimum pack weight, more points for shooting, less bias for time. There's lots of time for TJ to refine the level of pain inflicted. Gotta love a mind that twisted. Looking forward to another education. |
Hey - I bet we could all use a good laugh! I know I could 
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Are you going to bring your maglight this year? Hummm, Pen, Maglight, Multitool, Saw--naw buttstock Airline sickness bag(s) for Lawdog!!!!! Oh that's right he can puke right onto the ground... |
Same here. And thanks for the clarification. |
I may want to borrow a couple of those flags. Unless I'm able to improve from where I finished last year, a couple of those flags would be helpful for a search team in spotting my body. 
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1. Do you have a link, or keywords I can use to search so as to read about last years event? I'd like to see exactly what happened - and what to expect. 2. Will the AARP have walkers available for folks like me? EDIT: Found one: archive.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=123&t=461236 |
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Hey everyone I am 17 and I am going to try to attend this event with my father. I IM'ed Maduce and he said it was fine as long as my father attends. I was wondering what everyone's opinions on me attending were. I do not want to make people nervous by having a young person in the competition. I assure everyon that if I do attend I will have prepared. I love shooting and I am an avid climber so this event looks like fun. I am just trying to guage how people would feel about me attending. If their is a really strong opposition and I can't alleviate whatever fears you may have I will not attend. I do not want to make anyone nervous. ETA: Sorry for the small hijack I just figured this was the best place to ask since it is basically the Bug Out Drill discussion. Thank you, -opti12206 |
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Opti- You will have no objections from anyone here. I would suggest that you pack all of your own gear, do all your own preparations, decide on your own footwear, etc. without your dad involved. Doing this yourself with your own imagination and brain makes it that much better of a learning experience for you. Get online, start making a list of things that might come up, and prep accordingly. Your age is not a problem so long as you use good judgment, safety, and don't do anything stupid. Be prepared to go it alone if your dad gives out as well. Some folks might think that age would give you the edge, but you still have to hump the gear and do the challenges like the rest of us. Should be fun. Besides, if you really feel like you got mad skills, we can make sure that start with Airone, Shultze, and Shultze's father. James |
More power to you. I hope you can make it. I'm quite sure the staff and participants will be more than supportive. I wish I had done more (organized) stuff like this at your age. I agree totally with Law too, do as much stuff by yourself as you can, and let it be a learining experience for you. I assure you it was for all of us last year...  . Remember that most of us technically failed the drill last year, so don't think of it so much as competition, but to learn. Plus there's total honor in putting your self on the line and getting trained.
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+1. Bring it, young Jedi! 
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