Living trust? > Texas

Posted: 11/16/2006 5:40:31 PM EDT

OK, I got it done on quiken. Now what exactly do I send to the ATF? Should I have allready added the suppressor that I am getting to the trust? I think I just send the 6 page declaration, but someone who knows please enlighten me. thanks

Posted: 11/16/2006 6:25:49 PM EDT

[#1]

Are you going to add an L1A1 to that trust, as well?

Posted: 11/16/2006 6:36:03 PM EDT

[#2]

I believe you just need the declaration of trust, the suppressor shouldn't be added. I believe the form 4 is considered 'titled'.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

Posted: 11/16/2006 6:57:01 PM EDT

[#3]

Now what exactly do I send to the ATF?

- Form 4 in duplicate
- Certification of Compliance with 18 U.S.C 922(g)(5)(B)
- A copy (never the original!) of your declaration of trust. If you also signed and notarized a certification of trust, send a copy of that instead.
- A $200 check.

Should I have allready added the suppressor that I am getting to the trust?

It's up to you. I like to list the make, model and serial number in the property schedule. If you don't know the serial number you can include it later.

Posted: 11/17/2006 3:26:14 AM EDT

[#4]

Quoted:
Are you going to add an L1A1 to that trust, as well?

I think I probally will be! Cant wait to see the look on his face

Posted: 11/17/2006 7:48:44 AM EDT

[#5]

Quoted:

Now what exactly do I send to the ATF?

- Form 4 in duplicate
- Certification of Compliance with 18 U.S.C 922(g)(5)(B)
- A copy (never the original!) of your declaration of trust. If you also signed and notarized a certification of trust, send a copy of that instead.
- A $200 check.

Should I have allready added the suppressor that I am getting to the trust?

It's up to you. I like to list the make, model and serial number in the property schedule. If you don't know the serial number you can include it later.

Perfect!

The examiner does not need to know all the specifics of your trust, only that you have that particular legal instrument. Send the certification of trust rather than the declaration.

Posted: 11/17/2006 1:54:49 PM EDT

[#6]

What is the differance between a declaration and a certification of trust? I have a declaration of trust and it is notorized. Is this OK?

Posted: 11/17/2006 2:08:31 PM EDT

[#7]

Quoted:
What is the differance between a declaration and a certification of trust? I have a declaration of trust and it is notorized. Is this OK?

Quicken will print a certification of trust, and you go get that notarized. Its about half the length of the declaration and doesn't have all the information that the BATFE doesn't need.

Posted: 11/17/2006 2:16:50 PM EDT

[#8]

Ya, I found it now. I allready got the whole thing notorized, Is it OK to send the whole document? In other words, the declaration of trust, or does it need to be the certification?

Posted: 11/17/2006 2:27:28 PM EDT

[#9]

In other words, the declaration of trust, or does it need to be the certification?

You can send a copy (never the original!) of the declaration of trust if you want to, but it's better from a privacy point of view to send a copy of the certification of trust.

Posted: 11/17/2006 2:28:05 PM EDT

[#10]

Quoted:

In other words, the declaration of trust, or does it need to be the certification?

You can send a copy (never the original!) of the declaration of trust if you want to, but it's better from a privacy point of view to send a copy of the certification of trust.

+1

Posted: 11/17/2006 2:39:20 PM EDT

[#11]

Thanks everyone!

Posted: 11/17/2006 3:10:37 PM EDT

[#12]

I dont have to send finger prints or pictures do I?

Posted: 11/17/2006 5:12:55 PM EDT

[#13]

Quoted:
I dont have to send finger prints or pictures do I?

Well, your trust can send a photograph of itself, but it might have a difficult time sending fingerprints!

Posted: 11/17/2006 5:19:02 PM EDT

[#14]

I dont have to send finger prints or pictures do I?

No.

Posted: 11/17/2006 8:02:08 PM EDT

[#15]

Oops, nevermind.

Posted: 11/17/2006 9:29:41 PM EDT

[#16]

What do I do if I have an LLC and wish to use it instead of a trust

Posted: 11/17/2006 11:52:00 PM EDT

[#17]

What do I do if I have an LLC and wish to use it instead of a trust

The exact same thing as posted above.

With the exception that you will use the name of your company LLC. and a copy of your articles of formation/incooperation.

Posted: 11/18/2006 6:27:09 AM EDT

[#18]

I just got my form 4 back on a Trust transfer yesterday. It was my first one.

I set up a trust with Quicken just for NFA items and sent in the Decleration and the Certification just to be safe as I've read some examiners have kicked it back for not sending in the Decleration. This way the only things in the trust are items the ATF already knows about. I got mine approved in 45 days but it got kicked back for a problem unrelated to the trust paper work.

Posted: 11/18/2006 5:28:56 PM EDT

[#19]

Which version of Quicken allows one to set up trusts? I searched their website, but didn't locate any products that mentioned trusts.

Thanks

Posted: 11/18/2006 5:32:20 PM EDT

[#20]

what does it cost to set-up a trust?

Posted: 11/18/2006 5:44:09 PM EDT

[#21]

Which version of Quicken allows one to set up trusts?

Quicken WillMaker Plus 2007.

Posted: 11/18/2006 5:51:58 PM EDT

[#22]

Quoted:

Which version of Quicken allows one to set up trusts?

Quicken WillMaker Plus 2007.

Thanks.

Posted: 11/18/2006 5:52:17 PM EDT

[#23]

what does it cost to set-up a trust?

Do I Need a Lawyer to Make a Living Trust? by nolo.com

Posted: 11/18/2006 6:36:03 PM EDT

[#24]

Quoted:

what does it cost to set-up a trust?

Do I Need a Lawyer to Make a Living Trust? by nolo.com

thanks!

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