Posted: 12/24/2005 9:11:13 AM EDT
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Packing a roscoe in an establishment that derives 51% or more of it's revenue from sales of alcohol for consumption on premises is a no-no. Apparently 51% establishments are required to post this fact? WTF does a 51% sign look like? Is it codified into the TX penal code what a 51% sign looks like (much like a 30.06 sign is)? |
It is a sign that says "51%" on it. Lots of places do not post it, or do not post it conspicuously. either way, you are still legally bound not to carry there. There failure to post the sign is not a defense. Simplest terms if it is a bar, you cannot carry. Most people know what a bar is. |
borrowed from here probably everything you need to know here. www.packing.org/ |
Yeah, and I'm one of those people that knows what a bar is. I just don't want to get stuck carrying to some restaurant that just happens to receive 51.1% of it's income from alcohol because the jagoffs didn't post a sign. |
You will be OK. |
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You're probably ok if it's sign says "Restaurant and Bar" outside. I'm sure some of them do get 51% or more of their income from booze, but, it's probably an accountant's wet dream to go figure that out. However, if they do, and they post th sign, you should go lock it up in your ride. Makes me wonder....does Hooters have a 51% sign? You'd think they make more money off of beer than their lousy food. No, really, I think their food is mediocre... |
The Hooters the Houston Crew goes to is not a 51% place. They do have a gunbusters sign of sorts, but no 51% sign. Also, look around at something other than the waitresses and you'll see far more food ordered than beer. Its just us that seem to think drinking ups our chances with the staff.  
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Bars, titty-bars are 51% Almost any restaraunt or chain, that serves drinks, will be receiving more than 50% of its revenue from food. TRG PS. Hooters, for example, also sells shirts, shorts, etc. Even Bennigans is not 51%. |
Really? Back to your car? Because, I tend to take my entire business elsewhere. TRG |
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Hooters Lakeline in Austin does not have a 51% sign but some cheese-dick "no firearms allowed" sign instead. yes, in their cheesy orange with black letters. nowehere near 30.06 enforceable, but if it is too obvious i suppose they can ask you if you are carrying or something. ive carried there every time ive been there and nobody has said anything...probably cuz its been concealed. 
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Yes, but it's shitty water beer. I take my business to the N. Arlington Hooters where you can get a decent beer plus it's closer to the college campus (equals more college girl waitresses). Do you know the whole story on this? Didn't this have something to do with Judge Vandegraft (of the car dealership fame)? I was wondering if that whole nonsense would go away now that he's retiring... |
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That is real interesting. This gets us into the definition of premises. If the bar is in the bolwing alley- is the entire place a 51% area or just the bar If I rememebr correctly- the bar in that bowling alley is a separate room Of course- the entire bowling alley with within the bar's TABC area- you can take drinks out of the bar to the lanes themselves. Guess that answers that question. |
You can carry wine or beer out of a bar in Texas anyway, whether it is a TABC permitted area or not. The only catch is that it has to stop at the same time as stores with an off premises permit. It is Midnight on every day except Saturday which is 1:00AM. |
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Hey TVC, Do you have a cite to that rule? It was my understanding (No- I don;t have a cite to any rule that invovles TABC- Just years of experience) that you cannot take ANY alcohol outsid the TABC line. Just curious and wanting to clear my misunderstanding of the law up. |
You bet. It is the Texas Alcoholic Beverage Code Chapter 25. Wine and Beer Retailers Permit 25.01(1). It gives the business the right to sell for ON PREMISE or OFF PREMISE drinking. It is not for on premise only. It is as follows: CHAPTER 25. WINE AND BEER RETAILERS PERMIT § 25.01. AUTHORIZED ACTIVITIES. The holder of a wine and beer retailer's permit may sell: (1) for consumption on or off the premises where sold, but not for resale, wine, beer, and malt liquors containing alcohol in excess of one-half of one percent by volume and not more than 17 percent by volume; and (2) for consumption on the premises traditional port or sherry containing alcohol in excess of one-half of one percent by volume and not more than 24 percent by volume. This is not to be confused with Chapter 26 which is OFF-PREMISE PERMIT. That is generally for stores that can sell to drink off the property like a convenience store or supermarket. It is: CHAPTER 26. WINE AND BEER RETAILERS OFF-PREMISE PERMIT § 26.01. AUTHORIZED ACTIVITIES. The holder of a wine and beer retailer's off-premise permit may sell for off-premises consumption only, but not for resale, wine, beer, and malt liquors containing alcohol in excess of one-half of one percent by volume but not more than 17 percent by volume. |