Posted: 10/15/2005 6:55:40 PM EDT
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don't know about Mike. Mark is the owner, or one of them, I am not sure about their buisiness structure. Mark can be short with people, but I have never seen him be outright rude or do something as stupid as Bill Caplan at M&A Parts. Mark's prices are a little high, but he is at every show and he has the stuff you need. I don;t think his prices are so high that they are a rip-off. I generally try to buy something form him every show. In short, I stop and say hello everytime I see him and he always has interesting stuff for sale. So, what exactly happened to yo that you have such strong feelings? |
| As an un-educated buyer, I was not versed in the various laws regarding the legal length requirements of rifles. Again, I take responsibility for doing my research after the purchase, but I felt that Mark should have asked me how I would use his 11.5" upper. I own my own business and try to offer my customer's the best customer service possible as well as educate to ensure complete customer understanding. All he had to say was - you know that you will not be able to legally own this weapon without....! I would have then said, ok get me the 16" one! I have now read everything that I was able to get my hands on and understand my options. When I contacted Mark, he was not only short but very rude to put it nicely. I talked to him today at Reliant and he just pissed me off more! I have never been this mad about a purchase and have learned a valuable lesson. I will say that I spoke with Keith @ NFA and he was truly a big help and other dealers could learn from his customer service and willingness to help a newbie!!! |
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So, he sold you the upper without asking you if you had an SBR or a machinegun? What did you say to him at the show today? What was his response? Any chance that he thought you knoew what you were doing? 1. Did you shoot it? 2. What did you propose to mark to resolve the matter? I'm not going to defend Mark, but I am very curious to see what happened. Mark: like I said, he can be cantankerous at times. BTW: Keith is good people. A close friend. |
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Two yeras ago, I saw he put a upper with a 11.5 barrel on a post-ban RRA lower, and sold to a mexican guy for $2500 at reliant gun show. Yes, I was there, and I told him and the buyer, that's illegal. His reponsed:' it's OK, ATF never prosecuted anyone before." What a fxxxing axxhole! He rapped off and screwed the guy! Yes, I posted that story on this board after I came back from the gun show. |
 in a way the end buyer is also at fault by no means am i defending anyone but its always best to know what youre buyingi have delt with him and i agree, not the best business orientated person to deal with and prices are up there. |
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He seems a little short and abrupt at times. Ever since the other guy died, that table is not the most friendly. But it is not always unfriendly either, and it is never cheap. But he does have stuff nobody else carries. I think you need to do a little more research before you buy. The 11.5 upper, the $45 flash hider, you need to slow down and ask around first. |
| +1 for what folks have said about SOG's consitent presence, good selection, and relatively high [abeit not absurd] prices. I took a newb friend to the last funshow, and he bought a couple items from them. IMHO, Mark did OK with the customer service, but then again, I knew exactly what we were looking for/at; not sure if it would have been the same for my buddy had I not been there. At any show, buyer beware if you have not dealt with the dealer before. |
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I have to say this: I came in with a project in mind and a general sope of work for my AC556: Mark told me to hang on for a minute, rummaged around his table, pulled up a VFG w/ graphite rails, etc anthat was JUST what I needed then knocked 5 bucks off tthe price. So, that leaves us where? Hodge, did you ask him about the purchase? Did you ask him to give you a discount on the flash hider? What kind of flash hider was it? |
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Being a new guy to the black rifle I do find many who look at you with the attitude of...you mean you dont know that or how that works ?? Its very frustrating and rude but I have read a lot here and deal with the folks who are happy to answer my questions and these guys have turned out to have the best prices. I deal with Mark from Delta Force. He has had all the parts and accessories I have needed. SOG prices are very high, I bought a verticle grip and rail mount from him at Tulsa and he charged tax and provided no receipt 54 bucks..Delta Force had the same grip for 30 !! I look at SOGs stuff but when I check the prices they are way to high..but hey its all about making money not giving good deals.. Just my 2 cents |
He is absolutely correct, technically. You can fill out some forms, send in $200.00, spend another $200.00 on a corp so you won;t need an LEO signoff and register it as an SBR (Short Barrelled rifle). That's not the point though. |
| don't forget to have the K Man engrave your receiver with the corp name and the city and state. it's a few bucks to set up the tooling so if you have a couple AR receivers you may want to get them all done at once. not that you would want to SBR any extra guns but it does not really hurt the value and then it's one less thing you need to do in the future. |
Yup, me too. Often times - he has what I am looking for... always a good attitude, decent/fair pricing, and if you buy a lot, he will start knocking the price down without being asked. Sure, I can order online a bit cheaper, but I get to handle it at his table, make sure I like it, and he is a hell of a nice guy. Never got any attitude, and that goes a long way. |
+1 and then some.. |
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im gonna step up and plug GDS Enterprises in Austin, TX, as a good source for info and AR-15 parts stuff. if you have C3 questions you can email or IM me. GDS is on the EE board on AR15.com as well. their phone # is (512) 707-8353, if you want to take your business elsewhere i would recommend them. their customer service is good too. 
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very good people to deal with! the only thing is they dont do shows here in houston and thats the main issue. there is still robbie and his wife with lone star wholesale Robbie Lone Star Wholesale 214-8507452 The Colony,TX www.lonestarwholesale.com www.texasstargroup.com [email protected] [email protected] |
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hey keith are you able to perm attatch flash hiders ? have a bbl i would like to cut down since the threads are ruined on it unless you can repair them? the threads have been flattened by a permanent attatching pin from a comp. (its a post ban bbl) i bought it really cheap and figured i could shorten it unless you think you can repair the threads. only the first half is damaged but they are pretty much flat. |