Posted: 5/13/2005 6:46:04 PM EDT
| To CLEO or Corp, that is the question. I know in Tarrant, the Sherrif will sign, but the county line literally runs down my back fence and I'm in Dallas county. Is there a CLEO that will sign? My city CLEO is the Grand Prairie Police Chief, and judging by the asshole factor of the local cops, I'm not optimistic about him signing. If someone tells me different, then great! |
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I have never heard good news from Dallas county. I know the new sherrif won't sign at all, she's a complete anti bitch. If your local chief won't sign then corporate would make sense. If you are doing an SBR, write a letter explaining that you already have a rifle and you wish to merely take 1.5" off the barrel but to do that requires you to pay a tax and request that the CLEO sign stating simply that he has no reason to believe you can not own such a thing. I have found over the years that if you explain carefully that their signature does not give you "approval" that you have a much better shot. Once they learn they will not be held liable it gets much easier. Explain (if its for an AR) that you are a collector and a 14.5" barrel is necessary for authenticity purposes and you wish to build a collectible firearm. Also, as weird as it sounds, don't use a Colt lower. They see AR-15 and they freak out. They see XM177 and don't know what the hell that is  If it's a can you want, cite many sources on hearing damage and goodwill towards those living around shooting ranges, damage to the environment etc (all true by the way). If you plan on getting into this heavy corp is good anyway. For one item try all the other sources first. Remember district attorney can sign also if you can get that done. Corp route is a royal PITA to babysit and deal with. Unless you are gonna build a collection it's tough to justify. |
Dallas County does not have a sheriff....at least none that I can find. I have repeatedly called, emailed, faxed and gone to her office to meet with or make appointments. She has no voicemail, no direct email address, no secretary, and her office door is always closed and locked. I have asked some of the county commissioners that I deal with on a frequent basis and none of them have met her. I also cannot tell if it is her policy, the department's or the office that handles such paperwork that ATF Forms do not get signed....it's also the same office that signs off on your CHL application(Caroline at the DPS CHL office has mentioned that Dallas County never completes the CHL applications within the DPS specified dealine). mm |
Thank GOD I don't live in Dallas County, but if I did, the election of Lupe "I hate everything" Valdez would have caused a For Sale sign to appear in my yard. Hopefully the voters will realize how much they F'ed up with this one. |
I live by Joe Pool. Unfortunately, my mailbox falls about 150 feet from the county line, on the wrong side. |
Like I had mentioned, I cannot determine exactly who is responsible for the policy. All the paperwork is handle by one office, the lady I have met and spoken with, Ms. Linsey(Lindsey?) said it was "the manager of this office will not sign". mm |
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Update: I talked with a Deputy Constable yesterday that said that he could get my F1 signed for me. I'm going to fill it out today and meet him tomorrow and see where this goes. Constables are elected, so I'm pretty sure he's bucking for my vote.  Actually, the Constable was my CHL instructor, so hopefully that'll be what it takes.
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IIRC, the Dallas County Constable is not considered a CLEO and their signature is not sufficient for thr ATF to approve a Form 1. mm |
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Clearly, if the ATF were ever to pay attention to any state laws, then by definition, Constables have the same or even more authority than the local sheriff or chief of police. If you have the energy to fight, I recommend you go for it.
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Actually, it was easiest to call up and meet with a county commissioner and get Sheriff Box to sign. mm Edited to add: I should mention that the commissioner is a close inlaw. Oddly enough, the commissioner is not supporter of the individual right to own firearms..unless it applies to family, close friends or generous supporters. mm |