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2/17/2005 4:02:23 PM EDT
From the Texas law:


46.05.  PROHIBITED WEAPONS.  (a)  A person commits an
offense if he intentionally or knowingly possesses, manufactures,
transports, repairs, or sells:
(1)  an explosive weapon;                                                    
(2)  a machine gun;                                                          
(3)  a short-barrel firearm;                                                  
(4)  a firearm silencer;                                                      
(5)  a switchblade knife;                                                    
(6)  knuckles;                                                                
(7)  armor-piercing ammunition;                                              
(8)  a chemical dispensing device;  or                                        
(9)  a zip gun.                                                              
(b)  It is a defense to prosecution under this section that
the actor's conduct was incidental to the performance of official
duty by the armed forces or national guard, a governmental law
enforcement agency, or a correctional facility.
(c)  It is a defense to prosecution under this section that
the actor's possession was pursuant to registration pursuant to the
National Firearms Act, as amended.



Does this mean that you can or cannot own NFA weapons in Texas?
2/17/2005 4:09:47 PM EDT
[#1]

Quoted:
From the Texas law:


46.05.  PROHIBITED WEAPONS.  (a)  A person commits an
offense if he intentionally or knowingly possesses, manufactures,
transports, repairs, or sells:
(1)  an explosive weapon;                                                    
(2)  a machine gun;                                                          
(3)  a short-barrel firearm;                                                  
(4)  a firearm silencer;                                                      
(5)  a switchblade knife;                                                    
(6)  knuckles;                                                                
(7)  armor-piercing ammunition;                                              
(8)  a chemical dispensing device;  or                                        
(9)  a zip gun.                                                              
(b)  It is a defense to prosecution under this section that
the actor's conduct was incidental to the performance of official
duty by the armed forces or national guard, a governmental law
enforcement agency, or a correctional facility.
(c)  It is a defense to prosecution under this section that
the actor's possession was pursuant to registration pursuant to the
National Firearms Act, as amended.



Does this mean that you can or cannot own NFA weapons in Texas?



Yes... it means NFA weapons are illegal in Texas.

HOWEVER.... as written above, it is a *defense of prosecution* if you are in accordance with Federal law.... so if you have the correct NFA paperwork, then any and all charges have to be dropped...  you cannot be prosecuted.  Arrested, yes.  Prosecuted, no.

Therefore, if a cop sees you have paperwork, they dont arrest you... as it would be pointless.

Believe me, when I would shoot out at my family's land, and I would bump fire a few mags... someone always called the sherrif about "hearing machineguns" and they would always stop by and check the scene out.


I am not a lawyer.... nor did I stay in a Holiday Inn Express last night.  
2/17/2005 4:16:27 PM EDT
[#2]
So can you get CLEO to signoff on forms for an MG, Silencer or SBR?
2/17/2005 4:20:08 PM EDT
[#3]
CLEO signoff in Texas completely depends upon the County you live in and the "Higher-Ups" you know.

Tell us which County you live in or plan on moving to and we can probably tell you yeah or neah on the signoff.

James
Austin, Texas
2/17/2005 6:06:14 PM EDT
[#4]

Quoted:
So can you get CLEO to signoff on forms for an MG, Silencer or SBR?



 Yes, but depending on county you live in.  Example in DFW area:
 Dallas county:  No
 Tarrant Co.(west of Dallas): Yes
 Denton Co. (North of DFW area):  Yes

 Houston (Harris Co.):  No (IIRC).
2/17/2005 6:22:38 PM EDT
[#5]

Quoted:

 Yes, but depending on county you live in.  Example in DFW area:
 Dallas county:  No
 Tarrant Co.(west of Dallas): Yes
 Denton Co. (North of DFW area):  Yes

 Houston (Harris Co.):  No (IIRC).



You are correct, sir.  Harris County is a definite NO (unless you know someone...)  There'd be way too much machine gun crime in Harris County if we allowed that NFA stuff.  

Alpine
2/17/2005 8:58:08 PM EDT
[#6]
so whats the scoup on the corp thing then?  Any trouble brewing there?
2/17/2005 11:51:55 PM EDT
[#7]
IM me privately fer the lowdown.


Keith
2/18/2005 9:17:29 AM EDT
[#8]
So, what about Bexar County?  I'd like to get a suppressor, since my hearing seems to be getting worse.
2/18/2005 9:43:31 AM EDT
[#9]
Anyone have any luck with a CLEO sign off in Collin County?
2/18/2005 6:24:40 PM EDT
[#10]

Quoted:
IM me privately fer the lowdown.


Keith


I'm just seeing what everyone else's take on the issue was.  just curious






*prints off LLC forms*
2/18/2005 8:27:56 PM EDT
[#11]
I am in Harris County, and I have a bunch of machine guns, but the problem is, there is no place to shoot. SUCKS!!!!!!
2/18/2005 8:48:39 PM EDT
[#12]
I agree i live in Ft. Bend and you cant shoot rapid fire anywhere! Dammit. Except at the harris county police academy. I work for Harris County SO.
2/18/2005 11:05:28 PM EDT
[#13]

Quoted:
Anyone have any luck with a CLEO sign off in Collin County?



I was told  2 days ago in another TX thread... NO    
2/19/2005 12:03:42 PM EDT
[#14]

Quoted:
So, what about Bexar County?  I'd like to get a suppressor, since my hearing seems to be getting worse.



Last I heard the Bexar County Sheriff will sign for SBS, SBR, and MG but no suppressors.

He believes that supressor are only used by assassins or something of that nature.  He won't even sign for SAPD officers from what a officer told me a year or so ago at one of the tactical carbine shoots.

The only way to get a can into Bexar is via a corp or if you live in small town where the local Chief will sign.

James
Austin, Texas
2/19/2005 2:33:12 PM EDT
[#15]

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Quoted:
Anyone have any luck with a CLEO sign off in Collin County?
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I was told 2 days ago in another TX thread... NO  

Thanks for the info, kind of what I figured.
2/21/2005 7:42:19 AM EDT
[#16]
Anyone know specifically about Travis county?

It looks like I'm moving to Austin.
2/21/2005 7:47:10 AM EDT
[#17]

Quoted:

Quoted:
So, what about Bexar County?  I'd like to get a suppressor, since my hearing seems to be getting worse.



Last I heard the Bexar County Sheriff will sign for SBS, SBR, and MG but no suppressors.

He believes that supressor are only used by assassins or something of that nature.  He won't even sign for SAPD officers from what a officer told me a year or so ago at one of the tactical carbine shoots.

The only way to get a can into Bexar is via a corp or if you live in small town where the local Chief will sign.

James
Austin, Texas



Bexar county? What's that, San Antonio?
2/21/2005 7:51:33 AM EDT
[#18]

I agree i live in Ft. Bend and you cant shoot rapid fire anywhere! Dammit. Except at the harris county police academy. I work for Harris County SO.


You might want to think about joining a private range like The Impact Zone.  They are NFA riendly!




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2/21/2005 7:58:13 AM EDT
[#19]
The new sheriff in Travis county will sign. In fact, he mailed my forms back to me, which was great! He is very NFA friendly.

James : I have heard from several people who have talked to the Bexar county (yes, san antonio) chief that he won't sign on suppressors because he is a good ol' boy who believes they would only be used for poaching. Sigh.

I love Austin!

Doc
2/21/2005 9:25:31 AM EDT
[#20]
My parents inherited my grandparents mobile home on the lake in Granbury, which I believe is Hood County.  I remember that county being a "dry" county at one time and, don't know if it still is or not, the Sheriff being quite strict on firearms.  Anyone know if Hood County is "friendly" as far as CLEO signatures?  Thanks for any input.
2/21/2005 4:26:01 PM EDT
[#21]

Quoted:
The new sheriff in Travis county will sign. In fact, he mailed my forms back to me, which was great! He is very NFA friendly.

James : I have heard from several people who have talked to the Bexar county (yes, san antonio) chief that he won't sign on suppressors because he is a good ol' boy who believes they would only be used for poaching. Sigh.

I love Austin!

Doc



I can double vouche for Travis County or Williamson (I am in Travis/Austin) and have gotten one set of form 4s back from the new sheriff. They sat on Margo Frazier's (former sheriff) desk for 5 months and were returned to me, 3 days after the new sheriff took office.

James
Austin, Texas

2/21/2005 7:09:31 PM EDT
[#22]

Quoted:
The new sheriff in Travis county will sign. In fact, he mailed my forms back to me, which was great! He is very NFA friendly.



[MrBurns]Excellent...[/MrBurns]

I have papers sitting down there right now.  
2/21/2005 7:58:45 PM EDT
[#23]
whats the word on Brazoria County?


anyone know???
2/21/2005 9:54:28 PM EDT
[#24]

hey  what about Montgomery county ???

  I finally moved north & got the hell out of Harris

hoping to get a SBR  or shotgun
2/22/2005 8:22:16 AM EDT
[#25]

Yes, but depending on county you live in. Example in DFW area:
Dallas county: No
Tarrant Co.(west of Dallas): Yes
Denton Co. (North of DFW area): Yes

Houston (Harris Co.): No (IIRC).



MOJO,

I don't think it's the county, but the city, as you can have the Chief of Police sign off. Unless of course you live in the county only. I live in Dallas County and have registered NFA weapons.

Sincerely

shooter100
2/22/2005 10:47:55 AM EDT
[#26]
Dang.  I'd like to educate our sheriff then.  Such a stigma of suppressors is so 1970s!
2/22/2005 11:14:25 AM EDT
[#27]

Quoted:

Yes, but depending on county you live in. Example in DFW area:
Dallas county: No
Tarrant Co.(west of Dallas): Yes
Denton Co. (North of DFW area): Yes

Houston (Harris Co.): No (IIRC).



MOJO,

I don't think it's the county, but the city, as you can have the Chief of Police sign off. Unless of course you live in the county only. I live in Dallas County and have registered NFA weapons.

Sincerely

shooter100



 I really should specify both.
 Example, in Tarrant County:  Sheriff Anderson will sign it, but Chief of Police in Ft Worth probably won't sign it.
2/22/2005 4:17:01 PM EDT
[#28]
What about Montgomery County (There's at least two of us who would like to know) ???  

thaks -