Posted: 7/2/2016 1:16:24 AM EDT
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who's got good a spot where I can find a few, preferably fairly close to boise?
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I've been after coyotes a couple times but had no luck. So to answer your question....both. When I've got time I wanna head out and get some experience calling them in, tho yes I do know that the pelts are far superior later. So learn/hunt now hunt later for good pelts Also sweet rifle. what's the chambering? |
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The rifle is a .17Remington. It shoots 27gr Kindler Golds at 4000fps. Scope is an old Leupold.
I'd recommend you wait until fall, the fur prices have been steadily climbing over the last several years. The fur on the pic below is about $1200 worth, a good weekends hunt in anyone's book. 
South and west of Boise is some pretty good coyote country. PM me in the fall and I may be able to take you with me some day. I wont kill a coyote until the fur gets good, unless its by rancher/farmer request. Quoted:
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There's no coyotes near Boise..... 
I see coyotes here all the time. It was just a joke buddy.... meaning, I don't want other people killing "my" coyotes. Even though I hunt from Eastern OR to Northern Utah, I can never have too much hunting ground...... 
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The rifle is a .17Remington. It shoots 27gr Kindler Golds at 4000fps. Scope is an old Leopold. sweet! needs a suppressor though and itd be even better! how far do you stretch it out? I've been thinking about getting a 204 ruger for varmint hunting. throws a pill a touch heavier than that at 42-4400. plus uses a 223 bolt head and mags, and easy to get barrels if i decide to do an ar upper I'd recommend you wait until fall, the fur prices have been steadily climbing over the last several years. The fur on the pic below is about $1200 worth, a good weekends hunt in anyone's book. duly noted. id still like to find some and call them in, learn to look for them, watch movement etc. i didn't know the fur was so valuable. now that i know id certainly like to combine my love of hunting with my love of making money to buy hunting stuff
<a href="http://s947.photobucket.com/user/Lungbuster_photos/media/Hunting/IMG_1906.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i947.photobucket.com/albums/ad314/Lungbuster_photos/Hunting/IMG_1906.jpg</a> South and west of Boise is some pretty good coyote country. PM me in the fall and I may be able to take you with me some day. I wont kill a coyote until the fur gets good, unless its by rancher/farmer request. great ill find some public land out that direction. have you hunted east between boise and MH? i think ill take you up on that. set my calendar for sep 1 to pm you! Even though I hunt from Eastern OR to Northern Utah, I can never have too much hunting ground......
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have you hunted east between boise and MH? Yeah, um..... that land has already been claimed.... you're not even allowed to look at it out the window as you drive by..... sorry. 
The few coyotes that are there are pretty ugly anyways...... 
I killed out to 300 yards with my 17 a couple of times, but I try to get them a lot closer. I'd say my average shots are in the 75 - 100 yard range. I have a .204. It shoots 40gr V-max's at about 3800fps. It's the only barrel I have for my Encore now. It's the gun I usually keep for a "borrower" for when folks want to go with me but only own big game rifles. The .204 is a good caliber, it has almost the same ballistics as a .22-250. I've had a couple of instances where the bullet splashed on the shoulder, I'd rather use a HP like the Berger, but my rifle doesn't like them. The 204 is the rifle my wife uses when she goes with me. 
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The rifle is a .17Remington. It shoots 27gr Kindler Golds at 4000fps. Scope is an old Leupold. I'd recommend you wait until fall, the fur prices have been steadily climbing over the last several years. The fur on the pic below is about $1200 worth, a good weekends hunt in anyone's book. <a href="http://s947.photobucket.com/user/Lungbuster_photos/media/Hunting/IMG_1906.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i947.photobucket.com/albums/ad314/Lungbuster_photos/Hunting/IMG_1906.jpg</a> South and west of Boise is some pretty good coyote country. PM me in the fall and I may be able to take you with me some day. I wont kill a coyote until the fur gets good, unless its by rancher/farmer request. It was just a joke buddy.... meaning, I don't want other people killing "my" coyotes. Even though I hunt from Eastern OR to Northern Utah, I can never have too much hunting ground......
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The rifle is a .17Remington. It shoots 27gr Kindler Golds at 4000fps. Scope is an old Leupold. I'd recommend you wait until fall, the fur prices have been steadily climbing over the last several years. The fur on the pic below is about $1200 worth, a good weekends hunt in anyone's book. <a href="http://s947.photobucket.com/user/Lungbuster_photos/media/Hunting/IMG_1906.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i947.photobucket.com/albums/ad314/Lungbuster_photos/Hunting/IMG_1906.jpg</a> South and west of Boise is some pretty good coyote country. PM me in the fall and I may be able to take you with me some day. I wont kill a coyote until the fur gets good, unless its by rancher/farmer request. Quoted:
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There's no coyotes near Boise.....
I see coyotes here all the time. It was just a joke buddy.... meaning, I don't want other people killing "my" coyotes. Even though I hunt from Eastern OR to Northern Utah, I can never have too much hunting ground......
Oh, my bad, LOL.
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Quoted: Yeah, I haven't forgotten about you Eric..... We need to discuss your boundaries... We'll have to meet up and figure out where I'm allowed to go! This is one of the last times my .17 Remington was out killing coyotes (the 1990s):  ----- Here's a couple of 530 yard cottontails. The headshot ones just rolled over, with a little bit of shaking. But the chest shot ones would get hit, then walk a few feet and keel over dead. The 25 grain bullet just punched a tiny hole in their lungs and didn't expand. It was a blast, but with the lead free ban down here in SoCal, it got put in the back of the safe. I can't wait to get out and smoke more critters with it up there.  ----- Eric |
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I love the 17 Remington. I think it is perfect for the coyote hunter who puts up fur. Tiny entrance, no exit and internal organs turned to liquid. I even killed one without an entrance hole once.....
I was upset when Berger discontinued their bullets. I've kinda settled on the Kindlers now, but they just don't shoot as good. What bullet do you use Eric? |
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The rifle is a .17Remington. It shoots 27gr Kindler Golds at 4000fps. Scope is an old Leupold. I'd recommend you wait until fall, the fur prices have been steadily climbing over the last several years. The fur on the pic below is about $1200 worth, a good weekends hunt in anyone's book. <a href="http://s947.photobucket.com/user/Lungbuster_photos/media/Hunting/IMG_1906.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i947.photobucket.com/albums/ad314/Lungbuster_photos/Hunting/IMG_1906.jpg</a> South and west of Boise is some pretty good coyote country. PM me in the fall and I may be able to take you with me some day. I wont kill a coyote until the fur gets good, unless its by rancher/farmer request. It was just a joke buddy.... meaning, I don't want other people killing "my" coyotes. Even though I hunt from Eastern OR to Northern Utah, I can never have too much hunting ground......
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The rifle is a .17Remington. It shoots 27gr Kindler Golds at 4000fps. Scope is an old Leupold. I'd recommend you wait until fall, the fur prices have been steadily climbing over the last several years. The fur on the pic below is about $1200 worth, a good weekends hunt in anyone's book. <a href="http://s947.photobucket.com/user/Lungbuster_photos/media/Hunting/IMG_1906.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i947.photobucket.com/albums/ad314/Lungbuster_photos/Hunting/IMG_1906.jpg</a> South and west of Boise is some pretty good coyote country. PM me in the fall and I may be able to take you with me some day. I wont kill a coyote until the fur gets good, unless its by rancher/farmer request. Quoted:
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There's no coyotes near Boise.....
I see coyotes here all the time. It was just a joke buddy.... meaning, I don't want other people killing "my" coyotes. Even though I hunt from Eastern OR to Northern Utah, I can never have too much hunting ground......
Nice! I haven't seen many up here near McCall but I have seen a plethora of deer, fox and skunks.
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Quoted: I love the 17 Remington. I think it is perfect for the coyote hunter who puts up fur. Tiny entrance, no exit and internal organs turned to liquid. I even killed one without an entrance hole once..... I was upset when Berger discontinued their bullets. I've kinda settled on the Kindlers now, but they just don't shoot as good. What bullet do you use Eric? I started using the Hornady 25 grain HP, but changed over to the Nagel 30 grain when I started hunting up in NE CA for bigger coyotes. They worked very well, and I only had a few run-offs from all the coyotes I shot. I'm hoping he is still running his business by the time I am out of here. I'll buy a thousand in the spring, and that should set me up for a while. If there is any issue with getting the Nagel bullets, I'll go back to the Hornady 25 grain HPs. I have a load with IMR4198 that is very accurate, and the Hornady bullets are murder on rockchucks, and not too shabby on coyotes. You are right on about the performance of the .17 Remington. Most folks don't understand the devastation that little bullet, going 3800 to 4000 fps, does to the insides. My immediate goal is to shoot a nice red fox for a mount (we can't hunt them here in CA). After that, I plan to hunt hard for wolf come winter 2017 (not with the .17 Rem)! So, tell me about the one without an entrance hole! I had one that I scoured for a hole and could not find it. I went back to the video, and found that the coyote dipped his head right at the shot. Sure enough, a tiny little hole right above his eye with no exit wound, or brain dribble. He didn't do any kind of death dance either. After I skinned him, I found that the bullet blew far enough back where it damaged the spine as well, which made him just drop in his tracks. Eric |
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So, tell me about the one without an entrance hole! He came in from about a mile and stopped at 100 yards right behind a sage brush. I tried to shoot him in the neck but the bullet went right down his open mouth and into his vitals.... took me a while to figure it out. I have a pic somewhere... |
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I used to hunt and trap Coyotes in the 70s and 80s around here and made good money at it. I see a few vehicles from utah that come around in the summer and shoot on private ground without permission and that pisses me off to no end, a big waste of game. The price of coyotes has been going up the last few years, hopefully it continues to rise. It's nice to start making a real profit of the trap line again. I've had two run-ins with trespassing Utards, both times they were stupid kids that didn't know any better. |
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Quoted: He came in from about a mile and stopped at 100 yards right behind a sage brush. I tried to shoot him in the neck but the bullet went right down his open mouth and into his vitals.... took me a while to figure it out. I have a pic somewhere... Quoted: Quoted: So, tell me about the one without an entrance hole! He came in from about a mile and stopped at 100 yards right behind a sage brush. I tried to shoot him in the neck but the bullet went right down his open mouth and into his vitals.... took me a while to figure it out. I have a pic somewhere... I can only imagine the WTF moment you were having when you were trying to figure that out! Eric |
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You guys should come and kill them here. I would be grateful:) I'd like to.You are a 3C'er right? Going from memory.... I volunteer Eric to put us up in that B&B at Lava Hot Springs. We can have a nice romantic soak after a day of coyote hunting..
I drove all the way into the Caribou national forest once to catch the cutthroat run on the Blackfoot. I'd always read about how awesome it was.. I got skunked.... " Cutties so thick you can walk across their backs".... yeah right. Pretty country though. |
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Quoted: You guys should come and kill them here. I would be grateful:) I'd be up for that (don't know about Lungbuster's B&B invitation though... ).If you have open fields, winter sniping at longer ranges is an efficient way to get rid of a bunch of them. Lungbuster, check your PMs. Eric |
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No, but do it during hunting season and expect to get a suspicious eye cast at you by the fish cops. Quoted:
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Do you need an Idaho hunting license to hunt coyotes sit around with a rifle looking at the mountains? AFAIK, Oregon you do, Nevada and Utah you don't No, but do it during hunting season and expect to get a suspicious eye cast at you by the fish cops. I'm not sure that's correct Eukatae. I've never checked, but I know predator hunters in our neighboring states bitch about Idaho because they have to buy a license to hunt here but we can hunt in their states without one. A non-resident small game license is about $100... but I'm not sure on that either. I'm getting my info from bitching Utards, so take it for what it's worth....
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I'm not sure that's correct Eukatae. I've never checked, but I know predator hunters in our neighboring states bitch about Idaho because they have to buy a license to hunt here but we can hunt in their states without one. A non-resident small game license is about $100... but I'm not sure on that either. I'm getting my info from bitching Utards, so take it for what it's worth....
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Do you need an Idaho hunting license to hunt coyotes sit around with a rifle looking at the mountains? AFAIK, Oregon you do, Nevada and Utah you don't No, but do it during hunting season and expect to get a suspicious eye cast at you by the fish cops. I'm not sure that's correct Eukatae. I've never checked, but I know predator hunters in our neighboring states bitch about Idaho because they have to buy a license to hunt here but we can hunt in their states without one. A non-resident small game license is about $100... but I'm not sure on that either. I'm getting my info from bitching Utards, so take it for what it's worth....
I didn't consider the nonresident thing...if residents need a license I have been doing it wrong for a very long time. |
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I'm just going dirt biking for a week in the Sawtooths and wanted something to do on day 4 when I'm sore and beaten to shit, or on the drive there and back when I'm driving through a hundred miles of perfect desert.
Not going to pay an extra $100 to carry a rifle around and not actually get anything, so I think I'll put "Sit in a river and drink" back on top of my to-do list
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ahh i see my coyote thread has kind of take off. Nice! glad i could bring all us idahoans ( and one non-dumbass Californian) together.
as for discussion about hunting licenses etc Link 1 first line on page under "hunting" link 2 second to last line on page yes idaho requires licenses and tags for any "hunting" from ground squirrel nuisances and up. now back to the coyotes! Lungbuster what have you found to be the most lucrative hunting times. I've scoured the internet from hunting forums to "science" documents to see when coyotes are the most active and so far the general consensus is they are best for hunting during day, night, dusk, dawn, and high frekin noon. Ive only every seen coyotes in broad daylight ( sadly never when I've actually been hunting for them). personally I'm inclined to believe morning/ dusk times, but i see an awful lot of trophy-next-to-rifle pics that look like neither of those times what do you use for calls? |
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Many years ago I started a journal to track my results, successes and failures. Going back to 1994 I can't really tell where one part of the day is any better than the next. There's other factors that have affected me more negatively than time of day that I pay attention to. Like:
If it's the week of the new moon and it's going to be overcast, I know my hands will be cramped up from the amount of fur I put on the stretcher. If it the week of the full moon and windy, I stay home. As for calls, I think that nothing sounds better than a hand call. Closed or open reed doesn't matter to me. The last few years I've been using more e-calls though due to my hand calls giving me a headache. Getting old I guess. But I've always used e-calls while hunting at night. Hand calls are a pain in the ass at night. I've been using FoxPro products for years and I've been happy with them. Here's my old night hunting set up before the new LED stuff was invented. That was some heavy shit. 
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Quoted: Nice! I haven't seen many up here near McCall but I have seen a plethora of deer, fox and skunks. Quoted: Quoted: The rifle is a .17Remington. It shoots 27gr Kindler Golds at 4000fps. Scope is an old Leupold. I'd recommend you wait until fall, the fur prices have been steadily climbing over the last several years. The fur on the pic below is about $1200 worth, a good weekends hunt in anyone's book. <a href="http://s947.photobucket.com/user/Lungbuster_photos/media/Hunting/IMG_1906.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i947.photobucket.com/albums/ad314/Lungbuster_photos/Hunting/IMG_1906.jpg</a> South and west of Boise is some pretty good coyote country. PM me in the fall and I may be able to take you with me some day. I wont kill a coyote until the fur gets good, unless its by rancher/farmer request. Quoted: Quoted: There's no coyotes near Boise..... I see coyotes here all the time. It was just a joke buddy.... meaning, I don't want other people killing "my" coyotes. Even though I hunt from Eastern OR to Northern Utah, I can never have too much hunting ground...... Nice! I haven't seen many up here near McCall but I have seen a plethora of deer, fox and skunks. Head over SE of Council. The foothills and high-desert along the mountains to the east is great song-dog country, down through Indian Valley plumb to Emmet. It's BLM/NFS ground on the other side of the mountains west of Cascade reservoir. Back when I lived around McCall/Donelly/Cascade, you couldn't shoot foxes in Valley County. The fox lover hippie women got it outlawed. |
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Quoted: Head over SE of Council. The foothills and high-desert along the mountains to the east is great song-dog country, down through Indian Valley plumb to Emmet. It's BLM/NFS ground on the other side of the mountains west of Cascade reservoir. Back when I lived around McCall/Donelly/Cascade, you couldn't shoot foxes in Valley County. The fox lover hippie women got it outlawed. Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: The rifle is a .17Remington. It shoots 27gr Kindler Golds at 4000fps. Scope is an old Leupold. I'd recommend you wait until fall, the fur prices have been steadily climbing over the last several years. The fur on the pic below is about $1200 worth, a good weekends hunt in anyone's book. <a href="http://s947.photobucket.com/user/Lungbuster_photos/media/Hunting/IMG_1906.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i947.photobucket.com/albums/ad314/Lungbuster_photos/Hunting/IMG_1906.jpg</a> South and west of Boise is some pretty good coyote country. PM me in the fall and I may be able to take you with me some day. I wont kill a coyote until the fur gets good, unless its by rancher/farmer request. Quoted: Quoted: There's no coyotes near Boise..... I see coyotes here all the time. It was just a joke buddy.... meaning, I don't want other people killing "my" coyotes. Even though I hunt from Eastern OR to Northern Utah, I can never have too much hunting ground...... Nice! I haven't seen many up here near McCall but I have seen a plethora of deer, fox and skunks. Back when I lived around McCall/Donelly/Cascade, you couldn't shoot foxes in Valley County. The fox lover hippie women got it outlawed. Do you have more info on shooting foxes in those areas? It is a firearm discharge ban, or an outright ban on hunting fox? Thanks! Eric |
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Quoted: Do you have more info on shooting foxes in those areas? It is a firearm discharge ban, or an outright ban on hunting fox? Thanks! Eric Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Nice! I haven't seen many up here near McCall but I have seen a plethora of deer, fox and skunks. Back when I lived around McCall/Donelly/Cascade, you couldn't shoot foxes in Valley County. The fox lover hippie women got it outlawed. Do you have more info on shooting foxes in those areas? It is a firearm discharge ban, or an outright ban on hunting fox? Thanks! Eric That was 20 years ago or more when I was hunting and trapping that area. I'd just check the Fish & Game handbook or their website for current info. Better to know the current regs than to go by what 'an old local remembers'. Seems nowadays foxes in Valley County can only be taken by trapping and only of NFS or State Lands. In Adams County, private lands within the little Salmon drainage is closed to taking foxes. Gem county looks like you can take them year round. Hunted or trapped, but killing the little fuckers when they aren't 'haired out' is a waste IMHO. Gem county along the west side of the mountains is the area I used to shoot coyote, and I trapped all over the SW/4 of the state. From the IDFG furbearers regulations: |
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Quoted: That was 20 years ago or more when I was hunting and trapping that area. I'd just check the Fish & Game handbook or their website for current info. Better to know the current regs than to go by what 'an old local remembers'. Seems nowadays foxes in Valley County can only be taken by trapping and only of NFS or State Lands. In Adams County, private lands within the little Salmon drainage is closed to taking foxes. Gem county looks like you can take them year round. Hunted or trapped, but killing the little fuckers when they aren't 'haired out' is a waste IMHO. Gem county along the west side of the mountains is the area I used to shoot coyote, and I trapped all over the SW/4 of the state. From the IDFG furbearers regulations: https://idfg.idaho.gov/sites/default/files/seasons-rules-upland-furbearer-2016-2017.pdf Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Nice! I haven't seen many up here near McCall but I have seen a plethora of deer, fox and skunks. Back when I lived around McCall/Donelly/Cascade, you couldn't shoot foxes in Valley County. The fox lover hippie women got it outlawed. Do you have more info on shooting foxes in those areas? It is a firearm discharge ban, or an outright ban on hunting fox? Thanks! Eric I'd just check the Fish & Game handbook or their website for current info. Better to know the current regs than to go by what 'an old local remembers'. Seems nowadays foxes in Valley County can only be taken by trapping and only of NFS or State Lands. In Adams County, private lands within the little Salmon drainage is closed to taking foxes. Gem county looks like you can take them year round. Hunted or trapped, but killing the little fuckers when they aren't 'haired out' is a waste IMHO. Gem county along the west side of the mountains is the area I used to shoot coyote, and I trapped all over the SW/4 of the state. From the IDFG furbearers regulations: https://idfg.idaho.gov/sites/default/files/seasons-rules-upland-furbearer-2016-2017.pdf Unless it is depredation, I won't be shooting any fox outside of the prime fur season. I thought maybe it was a firearms closure. I'm looking to expand airgun hunting into areas where there may be some firearms closures (ie: shotgun only), for small game, upland game, and predators. I've been studying the heck out of the regs the past few months, so hopefully I'll be up to speed when it's time to hunt. Thanks for the info and the link. Eric |
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Quoted: Unless it is depredation, I won't be shooting any fox outside of the prime fur season. I thought maybe it was a firearms closure. I'm looking to expand airgun hunting into areas where there may be some firearms closures (ie: shotgun only), for small game, upland game, and predators. I've been studying the heck out of the regs the past few months, so hopefully I'll be up to speed when it's time to hunt. Thanks for the info and the link. Eric I always carried a rule book with me because back then IF&G was full of assholes like Bill Pogue that had an adversarial mentality towards anyone they encountered in the field...and I wanted to insure I gave them no ammunition with which to cite me. IF&G may have completely changed by now. All us old farts are retired. Even so it's a good practice to take a moment and check the regs before you undertake any 'sporting' activity. There are so many laws these days...your bound to run afoul of one eventually, even if unintentionally. Be safe. |
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Quoted: I always carried a rule book with me because back then IF&G was full of assholes like Bill Pogue that had an adversarial mentality towards anyone they encountered in the field...and I wanted to insure I gave them no ammunition with which to cite me. IF&G may have completely changed by now. All us old farts are retired. Even so it's a good practice to take a moment and check the regs before you undertake any 'sporting' activity. There are so many laws these days...your bound to run afoul of one eventually, even if unintentionally. Be safe. Quoted: Quoted: Unless it is depredation, I won't be shooting any fox outside of the prime fur season. I thought maybe it was a firearms closure. I'm looking to expand airgun hunting into areas where there may be some firearms closures (ie: shotgun only), for small game, upland game, and predators. I've been studying the heck out of the regs the past few months, so hopefully I'll be up to speed when it's time to hunt. Thanks for the info and the link. Eric IF&G may have completely changed by now. All us old farts are retired. Even so it's a good practice to take a moment and check the regs before you undertake any 'sporting' activity. There are so many laws these days...your bound to run afoul of one eventually, even if unintentionally. Be safe. I'm the same way about knowing laws, or having the information with me at all times (the reason I have been studying them). In my case (a Lieutenant Lawrence here in California), he and I had a few run-ins where he misquoted the law (he claimed that all trapping was banned, when it was only the use of body gripping traps that was banned). Having the current regs, along with the actual text of the law, prevented me from being wrongly cited and having him reprimanded. I will do my best to not run afoul of the law. Thanks! Eric |
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love me some coyote fur. For those looking to find a place this has helped me in the past. http://publiclands.org/Get-Books-and-Maps.php?plicstate=ID Anyone want to get out and call I would love to go. Drop me a PM any time. |