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7/10/2016 9:11:10 PM EDT
I'm helping a buddy build his first AR and we both currently live in Philly. Neither of us have a vice where we live now. He works over in NJ and has access to one at his work he is allowed to use.

Could we bring only the parts to build the upper receiver, no lower or lower parts, over from PA to NJ and build it there or does that somehow break NJ's gun laws?
7/10/2016 9:55:09 PM EDT
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Yes - nothing in NJ's laws would prevent someone from assembling an upper receiver, so long as you are not also in possession of a lower receiver.  It's the same lack of restriction that allows anyone in NJ to mail-order and receive a completed upper.

You could even assemble it with a threaded barrel and a flash suppressor - again, as long as you do not also possess a lower to attach it to, you would not be in possession of a combination of parts that could be assembled into an assault firearm.
7/10/2016 11:57:49 PM EDT
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Yes - nothing in NJ's laws would prevent someone from assembling an upper receiver, so long as you are not also in possession of a lower receiver.  It's the same lack of restriction that allows anyone in NJ to mail-order and receive a completed upper.

You could even assemble it with a threaded barrel and a flash suppressor - again, as long as you do not also possess a lower to attach it to, you would not be in possession of a combination of parts that could be assembled into an assault firearm.
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ok, that's what I figured but I wasn't sure because of their whole no flash hider thing
7/11/2016 12:41:33 PM EDT
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Yes - nothing in NJ's laws would prevent someone from assembling an upper receiver, so long as you are not also in possession of a lower receiver.  It's the same lack of restriction that allows anyone in NJ to mail-order and receive a completed upper.

You could even assemble it with a threaded barrel and a flash suppressor - again, as long as you do not also possess a lower to attach it to, you would not be in possession of a combination of parts that could be assembled into an assault firearm.
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while this is absolutely correct, no officer in the state would want to hear it, or care, while standing there in front of you, especially in today's climate.  Maybe better off buying a vise from
harbor freight, could end up costing you a whole lot less than bail.....
7/11/2016 12:50:09 PM EDT
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while this is absolutely correct, no officer in the state would want to hear it, or care, while standing there in front of you, especially in today's climate.  Maybe better off buying a vise from
harbor freight, could end up costing you a whole lot less than bail.....
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Yes - nothing in NJ's laws would prevent someone from assembling an upper receiver, so long as you are not also in possession of a lower receiver.  It's the same lack of restriction that allows anyone in NJ to mail-order and receive a completed upper.

You could even assemble it with a threaded barrel and a flash suppressor - again, as long as you do not also possess a lower to attach it to, you would not be in possession of a combination of parts that could be assembled into an assault firearm.


while this is absolutely correct, no officer in the state would want to hear it, or care, while standing there in front of you, especially in today's climate.  Maybe better off buying a vise from
harbor freight, could end up costing you a whole lot less than bail.....

I definitely agree. It's just we both live in apartments and don't have anywhere to properly install a strong enough vice to build the upper
7/11/2016 1:11:49 PM EDT
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I hope that Im stating the obvious to you, but put it in the trunk there and back to avoid any bullshit.
7/12/2016 7:11:58 AM EDT
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I definitely agree. It's just we both live in apartments and don't have anywhere to properly install a strong enough vice to build the upper
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Yes - nothing in NJ's laws would prevent someone from assembling an upper receiver, so long as you are not also in possession of a lower receiver.  It's the same lack of restriction that allows anyone in NJ to mail-order and receive a completed upper.

You could even assemble it with a threaded barrel and a flash suppressor - again, as long as you do not also possess a lower to attach it to, you would not be in possession of a combination of parts that could be assembled into an assault firearm.


while this is absolutely correct, no officer in the state would want to hear it, or care, while standing there in front of you, especially in today's climate.  Maybe better off buying a vise from
harbor freight, could end up costing you a whole lot less than bail.....

I definitely agree. It's just we both live in apartments and don't have anywhere to properly install a strong enough vice to build the upper


You know they sell vice's that clamp to things, right? You could get a vice and then clamp it to a table. I have a little one clamped to my reloading bench that I've used to build rifles. My reloading bench is pretty light and isn't bolted to the wall or floor or anything.
7/12/2016 7:59:08 AM EDT
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I'd be willing to bet if you posted this in the Pa section, someone in Pa would let you use their tools.
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7/12/2016 10:42:56 AM EDT
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You know they sell vice's that clamp to things, right? You could get a vice and then clamp it to a table. I have a little one clamped to my reloading bench that I've used to build rifles. My reloading bench is pretty light and isn't bolted to the wall or floor or anything.
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One time I bought a vice at harrbor freight to tighten a barrel nut and then returned it that night. I was living in an apartment and didnt have access to tools at the time

 
7/12/2016 11:03:22 AM EDT
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You know they sell vice's that clamp to things, right? You could get a vice and then clamp it to a table. I have a little one clamped to my reloading bench that I've used to build rifles. My reloading bench is pretty light and isn't bolted to the wall or floor or anything.
One time I bought a vice at harrbor freight to tighten a barrel nut and then returned it that night. I was living in an apartment and didnt have access to tools at the time  

Since I moved into the house I'm renting I have no where to set my tools up. I've taken my 4" vice that's supposed to bolt to a workbench and used "C"-clamps to attach it to my reloading bench and finished a rifle build that way. Then I got the little 2.5" vice that clamps to the reloading bench and have used that since.
7/12/2016 1:20:22 PM EDT
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Since I moved into the house I'm renting I have no where to set my tools up. I've taken my 4" vice that's supposed to bolt to a workbench and used "C"-clamps to attach it to my reloading bench and finished a rifle build that way. Then I got the little 2.5" vice that clamps to the reloading bench and have used that since.
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You know they sell vice's that clamp to things, right? You could get a vice and then clamp it to a table. I have a little one clamped to my reloading bench that I've used to build rifles. My reloading bench is pretty light and isn't bolted to the wall or floor or anything.
One time I bought a vice at harrbor freight to tighten a barrel nut and then returned it that night. I was living in an apartment and didnt have access to tools at the time  


Since I moved into the house I'm renting I have no where to set my tools up. I've taken my 4" vice that's supposed to bolt to a workbench and used "C"-clamps to attach it to my reloading bench and finished a rifle build that way. Then I got the little 2.5" vice that clamps to the reloading bench and have used that since.


I saw a picture on the web one time of a vice attached to one of those fold up wood working things. I cant describe it because I don't do tools good like Tom488.

 
7/12/2016 1:28:29 PM EDT
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I saw a picture on the web one time of a vice attached to one of those fold up wood working things. I cant describe it because I don't do tools good like Tom488.  
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You know they sell vice's that clamp to things, right? You could get a vice and then clamp it to a table. I have a little one clamped to my reloading bench that I've used to build rifles. My reloading bench is pretty light and isn't bolted to the wall or floor or anything.
One time I bought a vice at harrbor freight to tighten a barrel nut and then returned it that night. I was living in an apartment and didnt have access to tools at the time  

Since I moved into the house I'm renting I have no where to set my tools up. I've taken my 4" vice that's supposed to bolt to a workbench and used "C"-clamps to attach it to my reloading bench and finished a rifle build that way. Then I got the little 2.5" vice that clamps to the reloading bench and have used that since.

I saw a picture on the web one time of a vice attached to one of those fold up wood working things. I cant describe it because I don't do tools good like Tom488.  

Tom has some AWESOME tools.
7/12/2016 5:39:35 PM EDT
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TqEjG47WGHM&t=1m54s



7/12/2016 7:04:23 PM EDT
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You can get an HF vise & screw it to an HF sawhorse.
That would work.