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8/31/2012 3:27:16 AM EDT
Shooting is being reported in Old Bridge
http://www.nj.com/middlesex/index.ssf/2012/08/old_bridge_police_investigatin.html#incart_river_default

http://abcnews.go.com/US/jersey-shopping-plaza-shootout-leaves-dead/story?id=17124439

First, my prayers go out to those that ABC is reporting are dead.

Second.  How long before we see politicians thumping their chests demanding more gun control.  (Lautenberg).

Third.  When will they realize that when seconds count, the police are only minutes away.  This is another example of why the only gun control needed is making sure your rounds land on target.
8/31/2012 4:25:40 AM EDT
[#1]
With all the gun laws in NJ this is not supposed to happen, I feel sorry for those murderd and ther families. But with LEO cutbacks, too many liberals and no work for so many it is going to get worse.
8/31/2012 4:52:52 AM EDT
[#2]
Supposedly an "Ex" Marine with an "AK-47". Someone queue the journalists guide to AK-47's
8/31/2012 6:59:30 AM EDT
[#3]
Im sure they will make issue with him being a Marine and paint him as a war crazy killer.
8/31/2012 9:23:25 AM EDT
[#4]
Now they are saying its not "confirmed" that he was a Marine. If he was then i can only assume he has some issues and the VA never helped him and he couldnt help it. I just wanna know his name
8/31/2012 9:24:57 AM EDT
[#5]
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Im sure they will make issue with him being a Marine and paint him as a war crazy killer.


ABC reports that he was never deployed overseas and hints that he had a mental illnesses.  
Initial reports early this morning said it was a shotgun.  Now it's an AK47?  Does that mean it was a black shotgun?
8/31/2012 10:11:29 AM EDT
[#6]
I give it a couple hours before Bloomberg gets on the tube to rail for more gun control... The more this crap happens the more important this next election will be.... Not that i feel great about Mitt and guns but i without a doubt an not liking the current administration and there opportunistic law makers

have they used the words assault rifle yet?
8/31/2012 12:06:13 PM EDT
[#7]
Don't you all get it? It doesn't matter what gets confirmed, it is what the public first hears. There are never retractions, and IF they happen they are somewhere most readers are not likely to easily find.
8/31/2012 12:31:33 PM EDT
[#8]
I had a very prominant politition tell me' it dosent matter what they say, the people will only remember you name' same with this, they only know an evil shooting happened, not why,
8/31/2012 1:04:40 PM EDT
[#9]
Ban Marines......

oh wait...
8/31/2012 1:38:02 PM EDT
[#10]
Wow, the media wanted this guy to be in body armor so bad.
8/31/2012 2:18:10 PM EDT
[#11]
and a Romney/Ryan bumper sticker on his car
8/31/2012 4:24:20 PM EDT
[#12]
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and a Romney/Ryan bumper sticker on his car


Even if he had a Obama / Biden bumper sticker and wore and Media Matters Tee shirt they would still  try to associate him as a extremist tea party member that might have committed this act after listening to the RNC convention hate speech.
9/1/2012 5:49:21 AM EDT
[#13]
Ok- we know he was a Marine, Afghani vet with depression, who was a little weird. PTSS is a "bit" MORE than depression, so by lessening his "illness" they make all people with depression with firearms suspect of similar unhinging.
9/1/2012 6:43:08 AM EDT
[#14]
Quoted:
Ok- we know he was a Marine, Afghani vet with depression, who was a little weird. PTSS is a "bit" MORE than depression, so by lessening his "illness" they make all people with depression with firearms suspect of similar unhinging.


No hes not an Afghan vet, he never went overseas. He did 2 out of his 4 years in the Infantry. He hated the Marine life and did suffer from depression.

He tweeted shit like:

"smh is it normal to want to kill ALL of ur coworkers?Maybe but I'm actually in a position where I can,smh," he wrote in June 2009

"I'm starting to see why plp go on killin sprees," he wrote. And these people are reeeeeeally pushin my kill everyone I see button."

At the top of Tyler's Facebook page was the motto: "Be optimistic. All the people you hate are going to eventually die."

Ever since his Mom died he apparently was never the same.


Long story short he was a fucking shitbag
9/1/2012 7:30:49 AM EDT
[#15]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Ok- we know he was a Marine, Afghani vet with depression, who was a little weird. PTSS is a "bit" MORE than depression, so by lessening his "illness" they make all people with depression with firearms suspect of similar unhinging.


No hes not an Afghan vet, he never went overseas. He did 2 out of his 4 years in the Infantry. He hated the Marine life and did suffer from depression.

He tweeted shit like:

"smh is it normal to want to kill ALL of ur coworkers?Maybe but I'm actually in a position where I can,smh," he wrote in June 2009

"I'm starting to see why plp go on killin sprees," he wrote. And these people are reeeeeeally pushin my kill everyone I see button."

At the top of Tyler's Facebook page was the motto: "Be optimistic. All the people you hate are going to eventually die."

Ever since his Mom died he apparently was never the same.

Long story short he was a fucking shitbag

Maybe we need social media police to monitor the internet searching for people posting shit like that and lock them up before they snap.  
9/1/2012 9:11:05 AM EDT
[#16]
The precrime police.......hey would make a cool movie.....stop you are suspected of doing a crime tomorrow!
9/1/2012 11:11:28 AM EDT
[#17]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Ok- we know he was a Marine, Afghani vet with depression, who was a little weird. PTSS is a "bit" MORE than depression, so by lessening his "illness" they make all people with depression with firearms suspect of similar unhinging.


No hes not an Afghan vet, he never went overseas. He did 2 out of his 4 years in the Infantry. He hated the Marine life and did suffer from depression.

He tweeted shit like:

"smh is it normal to want to kill ALL of ur coworkers?Maybe but I'm actually in a position where I can,smh," he wrote in June 2009

"I'm starting to see why plp go on killin sprees," he wrote. And these people are reeeeeeally pushin my kill everyone I see button."

At the top of Tyler's Facebook page was the motto: "Be optimistic. All the people you hate are going to eventually die."

Ever since his Mom died he apparently was never the same.


Long story short he was a fucking shitbag




See what I mean about "news releases?"
9/1/2012 11:14:25 AM EDT
[#18]
Quoted:
The precrime police.......hey would make a cool movie.....stop you are suspected of doing a crime tomorrow!


They did.... Minority Report

9/1/2012 12:10:17 PM EDT
[#19]
or maybe people who are friends with these people on FB and follow their twitter should fucking say something to the authorities. But of course they wont because no one wants to be a rat, but they dont realize they might save a few lives.
9/1/2012 12:52:09 PM EDT
[#20]
Quoted:
Quoted:
The precrime police.......hey would make a cool movie.....stop you are suspected of doing a crime tomorrow!


They did.... Minority Report



Really?  
9/1/2012 1:05:30 PM EDT
[#21]
Sarcasm
9/1/2012 1:38:09 PM EDT
[#22]
Quoted:
Sarcasm


sarchasm ––––––-the gulf between the author of sarcastic wit and the recipient who doesn't get it  



seriously though––-have a lot more motherfuckers been shooting people or is it just media attention? due to the upcoming election?
9/1/2012 3:28:09 PM EDT
[#23]
They need filler, and stories about someone doing good for a stranger don't sell
9/1/2012 4:47:57 PM EDT
[#24]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Sarcasm


sarchasm ––––––-the gulf between the author of sarcastic wit and the recipient who doesn't get it  
seriously though––-have a lot more motherfuckers been shooting people or is it just media attention? due to the upcoming election?


There's been a decade plus of war, much pressure on our military, a continuous economic slide (forget the .Gov numbers, they are BS), good people duped or too stupid to know they were over their heads, continuing high unemployment and people are just going to explode. The internet and the "scoop" story have made the story. So yes there have been shootings, an increase? Too lazy to research the stats. Oh btw- this is a GREAT youtube on terminal ballistics given by an ER MD who is lecturing on GSWs.



Graphic at times!!!

 
9/1/2012 6:31:55 PM EDT
[#25]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Sarcasm


sarchasm ––––––-the gulf between the author of sarcastic wit and the recipient who doesn't get it  
seriously though––-have a lot more motherfuckers been shooting people or is it just media attention? due to the upcoming election?


There's been a decade plus of war, much pressure on our military, a continuous economic slide (forget the .Gov numbers, they are BS), good people duped or too stupid to know they were over their heads, continuing high unemployment and people are just going to explode. The internet and the "scoop" story have made the story. So yes there have been shootings, an increase? Too lazy to research the stats. Oh btw- this is a GREAT youtube on terminal ballistics given by an ER MD who is lecturing on GSWs.

http://youtu.be/tku8YI68-JA

Graphic at times!!!

 

That was a very interesting video. Some good info in it.


9/1/2012 9:53:29 PM EDT
[#26]
Quoted:
The precrime police.......hey would make a cool movie.....stop you are suspected of doing a crime tomorrow!


Errr...we already have that.  Guantanamo Bay, permanently hold you there even if you're suspected
9/2/2012 5:20:18 AM EDT
[#27]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Sarcasm


sarchasm ––––––-the gulf between the author of sarcastic wit and the recipient who doesn't get it  



seriously though––-have a lot more motherfuckers been shooting people or is it just media attention? due to the upcoming election?


That's great... I'll have to use that.
9/2/2012 8:57:55 AM EDT
[#28]
I passed by there this morning while going to BJ's and its still sealed up, parking lot is closed off but there are atleast 30 cars in the parking lot...
9/2/2012 10:04:09 AM EDT
[#29]
Quoted:
I passed by there this morning while going to BJ's and its still sealed up, parking lot is closed off but there are atleast 30 cars in the parking lot...

Jeez Remixer, pay attention.  This thread is no longer about the Pathmark shooting.  It is now about pre-crime police and terminal ballistics.  
9/2/2012 11:20:03 AM EDT
[#30]
Whew I had to take a break, I am  programming my laptop to predict when and where a crime will be committed....but the damn thing is stuck on Trenton and the statehouse!!!!
9/2/2012 1:10:15 PM EDT
[#31]
So fail of FAIL I don't kn ow where to begin.

Authorities said Tyler, 23, of Old Bridge, had worked his own early morning shift, but left the supermarket and then returned soon afterward. They say he broke in, shot Breen and LoBrutto using an automatic weapon, and then fatally shot himself with a handgun he was also carrying.

An autopsy completed on Saturday determined that all three were killed with a singe gunshot wound, according to the Middlesex County Prosecutor’s Office, which is investigating the case.

Other Pathmark employees said a store manager, Rolando Reyes, was on a cigarette break outside when he spotted Tyler roll up in his car and then get out dressed in camouflage and carrying an assault rifle. The employees said Reyes then warned them, prompted some hid in a freezer, while others fled out the back of the store.

Authorities have not provided a motive for the shooting, in which they said Tyler fired a total of 16 rounds from the automatic rifle, one similar to an M-16.

http://www.nj.com/middlesex/index.ssf/2012/09/funeral_services_set_for_pathm.html#incart_river_default
9/2/2012 4:11:12 PM EDT
[#32]
Do people really need a reason to do something like this?  I deal with so many criminals, they just do things, they have no remorse and it is spreading to more people.
9/2/2012 6:45:19 PM EDT
[#33]
Quoted:
So fail of FAIL I don't kn ow where to begin.

Authorities said Tyler, 23, of Old Bridge, had worked his own early morning shift, but left the supermarket and then returned soon afterward. They say he broke in, shot Breen and LoBrutto using an automatic weapon, and then fatally shot himself with a handgun he was also carrying.

An autopsy completed on Saturday determined that all three were killed with a singe gunshot wound, according to the Middlesex County Prosecutor’s Office, which is investigating the case.

Other Pathmark employees said a store manager, Rolando Reyes, was on a cigarette break outside when he spotted Tyler roll up in his car and then get out dressed in camouflage and carrying an assault rifle. The employees said Reyes then warned them, prompted some hid in a freezer, while others fled out the back of the store.

Authorities have not provided a motive for the shooting, in which they said Tyler fired a total of 16 rounds from the automatic rifle, one similar to an M-16.

http://www.nj.com/middlesex/index.ssf/2012/09/funeral_services_set_for_pathm.html#incart_river_default

Police report says AK-style firearm.  Coroner's report says shotgun wounds.  Sounds like a Saiga-12.  
Still makes sense on the round count: he went in loaded 5+1 and emptied two additional magazines saving the last round for himself.  Two mags were found at the scene.  3rd could have been still in the shotgun.  
9/2/2012 11:18:19 PM EDT
[#34]
Quoted:
Quoted:
So fail of FAIL I don't kn ow where to begin.

Authorities said Tyler, 23, of Old Bridge, had worked his own early morning shift, but left the supermarket and then returned soon afterward. They say he broke in, shot Breen and LoBrutto using an automatic weapon, and then fatally shot himself with a handgun he was also carrying.

An autopsy completed on Saturday determined that all three were killed with a singe gunshot wound, according to the Middlesex County Prosecutor’s Office, which is investigating the case.

Other Pathmark employees said a store manager, Rolando Reyes, was on a cigarette break outside when he spotted Tyler roll up in his car and then get out dressed in camouflage and carrying an assault rifle. The employees said Reyes then warned them, prompted some hid in a freezer, while others fled out the back of the store.

Authorities have not provided a motive for the shooting, in which they said Tyler fired a total of 16 rounds from the automatic rifle, one similar to an M-16.

http://www.nj.com/middlesex/index.ssf/2012/09/funeral_services_set_for_pathm.html#incart_river_default

Police report says AK-style firearm.  Coroner's report says shotgun wounds.  Sounds like a Saiga-12.  
Still makes sense on the round count: he went in loaded 5+1 and emptied two additional magazines saving the last round for himself.  Two mags were found at the scene.  3rd could have been still in the shotgun.  


uhhh yeah

9/3/2012 4:40:35 AM EDT
[#35]
Quoted:
Do people really need a reason to do something like this?  I deal with so many criminals, they just do things, they have no remorse and it is spreading to more people.


I KNEW IT!

It IS HERE - the Zombie Apocalypse! It spreads through the water - chlorinated , bottled, etc. AND MONSANTO (uMBRELLA Comany) DID it!



edit:sp

9/3/2012 4:41:33 AM EDT
[#36]
<computer issues>
9/3/2012 5:58:35 AM EDT
[#37]
OMG...you got it Monsanto has created a Zombie vegatable seed!!!!
9/3/2012 1:53:40 PM EDT
[#38]


HEY! get back to work on your pre-crime laptop program! Think of the children!
9/3/2012 2:08:38 PM EDT
[#39]
It is still stuck on Trenton
9/3/2012 2:53:57 PM EDT
[#40]
Just program it to ignore Camden, Willingboro, Burlington City, Trenton, Atlantic City, Patternson, Newark, and Jersey City.  
No need for any fancy algorithms there:  <Sun Rise?> Y::[Crime will occur] N::[Don't care]
Save the CPU cycles for meaningful analysis in areas South of I-195, East of I-295, and West of the Parkway.
9/3/2012 3:21:23 PM EDT
[#41]
It is now bouncing to all the county seats in the state and it beeps alot
9/4/2012 4:52:14 PM EDT
[#42]
I'm going to the wake tomorrow evening. . .the girl's father is a foreman at my company. . .good hard working guy. . . hope he's able to stay strong. . . .that's a heavy burden to bear. . .
 
9/5/2012 3:37:33 PM EDT
[#43]
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I'm going to the wake tomorrow evening. . .the girl's father is a foreman at my company. . .good hard working guy. . . hope he's able to stay strong. . . .that's a heavy burden to bear. . .  


Your children "going" before the parent must be hell on earth.