[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Out of State Permit. (Page 1 of 2)
Posted: 5/22/2011 7:51:33 PM EDT
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Here is what happened: My jeep died on the side of 80 East tonight as I was getting onto 287. Either the alternator went or the battery died, doesn't matter, jeep started sputtering because there was no spark and the voltmeter was reading 0 charge. Eventually the jeep died and I was stuck on the side of 80 East. Well, along came a State Trooper and he inquired about why my friend and I were stuck. My friend explained what happened while I was on the phone with AAA trying to get my Jeep back home to CT. Well, the statie peered inside of my jeep and noticed a single lone 30-30 cartridge sitting in plain view. Granted, it was my fault it was there, but even in the state of CT cops don't hassle you about it.
Well, the statie went on a huge power trip and went ballistic over this single 30-30 and had my friend remove it from the vehicle and give it to him. He told me to get off the phone with AAA and said it was illegal for me to possess ammunition in the state of New Jersey unless I had a weapons permit or whatever you guys have. He didn't search my vehicle but he pretty much interrogated me over the contents of my vehicle while I'm just trying to get the hell home. He was not pleased in the least bit. Well, he took my driver's license and my CT state pistol permit back to his cruiser and did whatever it is cops do when they are in their cars then came back out and told me that if he ever saw me in the state of New Jersey again, that I'd be in big trouble. Well, with just that warning and no ticket he called AAA and sped off. So here is the obvious question to those who might know a State Trooper in Jew Jersey: Do they actually take themselves that extremely seriously that a single 30-30 round would cause them to blow up on a huge power trip and get belligerently angry? The cartridge had been sitting in my jeep for probably years, didn't think it would get a statie all bent out of shape. Do you think he laughed to himself as he drove away or did he really have a hard on for busting my balls? Here is the real question: What is the deal with an out of state permit in terms of possession? I have a few friends that live down in Jersey and I like to head down there once in a while to shoot shotguns on a public range. Is transporting a firearm through and into your state illegal without a NJ permit? If so, how hard is it to obtain a permit if I need one? What does that permit actually entail if all I'm doing is shooting longarms? And no, this thread is not a Joke. I have to pass through New Jersey every time I want to get to Pennsylvania to go shooting as well so I may as well comply with the laws of your land. |
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Had that round been a tracer, armor-piercing, incendiary or a hollow-point, you'd likely be making Bubba happy in your cozy cell at this moment rather than posting on ARFCOM.
Welcome to the Glorious Peoples Republik of New Jerseystan, where all firearms (and most firearm related things and even non-firearm related things) are illegal unless you are subject to a specific exemption in the law. Consider yourself lucky to have escaped with only a warning from a ball busting NJ LEO. |
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He is completely full of shit... there is NO requirement to have ANY kind of permit, license, ID card, or anything of that ilk to possess rifle ammunition. As long as it wasn't a hollow-point round, a 30-30 rifle round isn't subject to any restrictions. We DO have laws that restrict possession of hollow-point rounds (2C:39-3f), and we have laws that restrict the PURCHASE or TRANSFER of handgun ammunition. However, such law does NOT prohibit the POSSESSION of handgun ammunition (2C:58-3.3, if you're curious). As such, it's perfectly legal for you to acquire handgun ammunition in CT, and then possess it in NJ (again, assuming it is not of the hollow-point variety).
So let me get this straight - Trooper Douchebag has effectively, and unilaterally, banned you from setting foot in this state again. Seems a little contrary to the US Constitution, no? You know... free travel, and all that? What can I tell you... assholes abound in every profession. As far as your other question: Is transporting a firearm through and into your state illegal without a NJ permit?
Perfectly legal... you may transport an unloaded firearm into NJ, if you are going directly to a place of target practice. See 2C:39-6f(3)(b). Said firearm must be unloaded, and either contained in a securely fastened case, or locked in the trunk (I'd recommend both). See 2C:39-6g for specifics. However, on your way to or from the target range, do not make any other stops that are not "reasonably necessary under the circumstances". That means, don't go meet your buddy at his house... don't stop to get coffee... stop if you must for gas, but try and plan things out so you fill up on the other side of the border. When travelling to PA from CT, you're covered by both NJ law (since you're on your way to a place of target practice), as well as federal law (FOPA). To maintain FOPA protection, you must lock your firearm case (or have it locked in the trunk). NJ law doesn't require the locked case, but federal law does. Take all the precautions you can, and lock everything up. Also, FOPA specifies that the ammunition be kept separate from the firearm. Again, NJ law doesn't require that - however, you want all the protection you can get - make sure the ammo is kept separate from the firearm, and is inaccessible to the driver (in a locked container will suffice). |
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He is completely full of shit... there is NO requirement to have ANY kind of permit, license, ID card, or anything of that ilk to possess rifle ammunition. As long as it wasn't a hollow-point round, a 30-30 rifle round isn't subject to any restrictions. We DO have laws that restrict possession of hollow-point rounds (2C:39-3f), and we have laws that restrict the PURCHASE or TRANSFER of handgun ammunition. However, such law does NOT prohibit the POSSESSION of handgun ammunition (2C:58-3.3, if you're curious). As such, it's perfectly legal for you to acquire handgun ammunition in CT, and then possess it in NJ (again, assuming it is not of the hollow-point variety). So let me get this straight - Trooper Douchebag has effectively, and unilaterally, banned you from setting foot in this state again. Seems a little contrary to the US Constitution, no? You know... free travel, and all that? What can I tell you... assholes abound in every profession. As far as your other question: Is transporting a firearm through and into your state illegal without a NJ permit?
Perfectly legal... you may transport an unloaded firearm into NJ, if you are going directly to a place of target practice. See 2C:39-6f(3)(b). Said firearm must be unloaded, and either contained in a securely fastened case, or locked in the trunk (I'd recommend both). See 2C:39-6g for specifics. However, on your way to or from the target range, do not make any other stops that are not "reasonably necessary under the circumstances". That means, don't go meet your buddy at his house... don't stop to get coffee... stop if you must for gas, but try and plan things out so you fill up on the other side of the border. When travelling to PA from CT, you're covered by both NJ law (since you're on your way to a place of target practice), as well as federal law (FOPA). To maintain FOPA protection, you must lock your firearm case (or have it locked in the trunk). NJ law doesn't require the locked case, but federal law does. Take all the precautions you can, and lock everything up. Also, FOPA specifies that the ammunition be kept separate from the firearm. Again, NJ law doesn't require that - however, you want all the protection you can get - make sure the ammo is kept separate from the firearm, and is inaccessible to the driver (in a locked container will suffice). Thanks for the reply. I was thinking to myself that New Jersey laws couldn't be this fucking insane, but maybe he went crazy because it was right there in my Center Console. The trooper was a real nice guy but then took a complete 180 degree turn once he saw that singe round and just went completely off the wall. It was like he just found a stash of Cocaine. Whatever. So what are your recommendations for when I travel for the weekend into New Jersey with a Firearm? My friend lives in Morristown and sometimes a group of us go down there for the weekend and I'll bring a shotgun. That's not exactly 'Directly to a place to practice shooting' hence my concern. Also, I try to never stop in New Jersey because I've never had a good encounter with a New Jersey State trooper. |
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So what are your recommendations for when I travel for the weekend into New Jersey with a Firearm? My friend lives in Morristown and sometimes a group of us go down there for the weekend and I'll bring a shotgun. That's not exactly 'Directly to a place to practice shooting' hence my concern. Yeah... by the letter of the law, that's illegal. Honestly, I'd either borrow a shotgun from my friend, or apply at a State Police barracks for a non-resident Firearms ID card. With an FID card, possession of an unloaded rifle or shotgun is legal, regardless of where you go in the state. |
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So what are your recommendations for when I travel for the weekend into New Jersey with a Firearm? My friend lives in Morristown and sometimes a group of us go down there for the weekend and I'll bring a shotgun. That's not exactly 'Directly to a place to practice shooting' hence my concern. Yeah... by the letter of the law, that's illegal. Honestly, I'd either borrow a shotgun from my friend, or apply at a State Police barracks for a non-resident Firearms ID card. With an FID card, possession of an unloaded rifle or shotgun is legal, regardless of where you go in the state. Do you know anything of cost or the application process for the non-resident FID card? |
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Do you know anything of cost or the application process for the non-resident FID card? You'll fill out the following forms: FID Application Mental Health Fingerprint fees are around $70 - what I don't know is if the Troopers will do your fingerprints, or if they'll send you off to an outside company to do them. Best thing to do is just call a barracks and ask them what their procedure is. |
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Do you know anything of cost or the application process for the non-resident FID card? You'll fill out the following forms: FID Application Mental Health Fingerprint fees are around $70 - what I don't know is if the Troopers will do your fingerprints, or if they'll send you off to an outside company to do them. Best thing to do is just call a barracks and ask them what their procedure is. I applied for my FID card in March at the local NJSP barracks, they had a sign on the front door saying they no longer offer fingerprinting services for FID applicants. |
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Do you know anything of cost or the application process for the non-resident FID card? You'll fill out the following forms: FID Application Mental Health Fingerprint fees are around $70 - what I don't know is if the Troopers will do your fingerprints, or if they'll send you off to an outside company to do them. Best thing to do is just call a barracks and ask them what their procedure is. I applied for my FID card in March at the local NJSP barracks, they had a sign on the front door saying they no longer offer fingerprinting services for FID applicants. Man, that's so fucking awesome! 
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OK, I'm asking another question, serious answers please.
I'm headed back to Pennsylvania this weekend to stay at a friends house for Memorial Day weekend and I'd like to bring a Firearm with me. Here's the problem: I get to pass through your lovely state again. Obviously, the gun will be locked in its hard case, ammo separate and completely out of view but I'm wondering if I'm going to get harassed seeing as how just a few days ago I got my balls busted hardcore. Should I bring with me a copy of the New Jersey firearm transportation laws as shown on the NJSP website just in case I get pulled over or God Forbid I break down again and I run into the same problem? I've learned my lesson and will have everything hidden from view because it seems as though they like to search your vehicle from the outside with or without your consent. Am I going to have a problem? Is there a state police watch going out for me right now or was the Officer's "If I ever see you in this state again, you'll be in big trouble" really just an empty threat? I've never dealt with state police quite like yours before, so I'm trying to be as cautious as I can here. |
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Obviously, the gun will be locked in its hard case, ammo separate and completely out of view but I'm wondering if I'm going to get harassed seeing as how just a few days ago I got my balls busted hardcore. Should I bring with me a copy of the New Jersey firearm transportation laws as shown on the NJSP website just in case I get pulled over or God Forbid I break down again and I run into the same problem? You'll get no help from any NJ statute, but you are covered under 18 USC 926A, commonly referred to as FOPA (Firearm Owners Protection Act). Also, have a look at the NJSP's web page on transporting firearms through NJ:http://www.njsp.org/about/fire_trans.html I've learned my lesson and will have everything hidden from view because it seems as though they like to search your vehicle from the outside with or without your consent.
No warrant or consent required to observe things in plain view. However, something that's in plain view and perfectly legal to possess doesn't give them the right to search your vehicle without your consent. Unfortunately, your rights really don't matter much on the side of the road, as you found out. Am I going to have a problem? Is there a state police watch going out for me right now or was the Officer's "If I ever see you in this state again, you'll be in big trouble" really just an empty threat?
You will not have a problem... keep everything out of sight, and in locked containers. The Trooper's threat was simple blustering... no one's staking out Route 80 looking for your license plate. Of course, don't do anything to draw attention to yourself, either. Keep to the speed limit... wear your seatbelt... don't drive like a maniac. And... in the event that you're one of those intrepid types... in the off-chance you do wind up with another encounter, a voice recorder could prove invaluable at a future date. New Jersey is a one-party consent state, meaning it's perfectly legal to record a conversation you have with ANYONE. That litle soundbite of Trooper Douchebag attempting to ban you from the state would have played out pretty good on Youtube... and the local news. 
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If a cop finds a hollow point bullet in my truck I get arrested? I thought I could only get charged with having hollow points bullets in a commission of a crime. I didn't think a traffic offense would be considered a crime for me to get arrested for having hollow points. I know it’s a traffic offense but I thought you were legally allowed to own hollow point bullets and you could only get charged with them in a commission of a crime. Hope someone could shed some light on this subject.
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I guarantee you had that trooper found a hollowpoint in Phil1712's vehicle, he would have been arrested. The statute prohibiting possession of hollowpoints stands on it's own... this "myth" that it's only applicable during the commission of some other crime is just that. True, it's most often used as an add-on charge, but it CAN be charged on it's own. We saw this first-hand a few months ago with the ROTC student at Rutgers who got charged with this "offense".
If a cop finds a hollow point bullet in my truck I get arrested? I thought I could only get charged with having hollow points bullets in a commission of a crime. I didn't think a traffic offense would be considered a crime for me to get arrested for having hollow points. I know it’s a traffic offense but I thought you were legally allowed to own hollow point bullets and you could only get charged with them in a commission of a crime. Hope someone could shed some light on this subject.
There are exemptions to the law (2C:39-3f) prohibiting possession of HP rounds.... it's much the same as the exemptions for possession of a handgun: they're legal to purchase, they're legal to transport from place of purchase to your home, they're legal to possess in your home, they're legal to transport to/from a range. |
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And notice the use of 2 different words in the statute concerning hollow points - BULLETS and AMMUNITION
Neither are defined in the law, and as we shooters know, a BULLET is the projectile, while AMMUNITION is a complete round - Bullet, Powder, Primer and Case If a LEO or Prosecutor had it in for you, mere possession of a box of Sierra 69grain boat-tail hollow point match bullets could put you away for a VERRRRRY long time 2C:39-3. Prohibited Weapons and Devices.
f.Dum-dum or body armor penetrating bullets. (1) Any person, other than a law enforcement officer or persons engaged in activities pursuant to subsection f. of N.J.S.2C:39-6, who knowingly has in his possession any hollow nose or dum-dum bullet, or (2) any person, other than a collector of firearms or ammunition as curios or relics as defined in Title 18, United States Code, section 921 (a) (13) and has in his possession a valid Collector of Curios and Relics License issued by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms, who knowingly has in his possession any body armor breaching or penetrating ammunition, which means: (a) ammunition primarily designed for use in a handgun, and (b) which is comprised of a bullet whose core or jacket, if the jacket is thicker than.025 of an inch, is made of tungsten carbide, or hard bronze, or other material which is harder than a rating of 72 or greater on the Rockwell B. Hardness Scale, and (c) is therefore capable of breaching or penetrating body armor, is guilty of a crime of the fourth degree. For purposes of this section, a collector may possess not more than three examples of each distinctive variation of the ammunition described above. A distinctive variation includes a different head stamp, composition, design, or color. (2) a. Nothing in subsection f. (1) shall be construed to prevent a person from keeping such ammunition at his dwelling, premises or other land owned or possessed by him, or from carrying such ammunition from the place of purchase to said dwelling or land, nor shall subsection f. (1) be construed to prevent any licensed retail or wholesale firearms dealer from possessing such ammunition at its licensed premises, provided that the seller of any such ammunition shall maintain a record of the name, age and place of residence of any purchaser who is not a licensed dealer, together with the date of sale and quantity of ammunition sold. Isn't his a great state?? 
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Well, then it's a good thing he didn't think the 30-30 Core Lokt was a hollow point with the lead tip but he was more concerned with the fact that it was a live round. Had it been demilled, he may have sung a different tune. He spent a good 20 seconds just staring at the stupid thing making sure it was live.
Oh well, good thing all my plinking ammo is Ball. 
Well, I'll be traveling through your state this weekend with a gun and some ammo on my way to PA, good thing I also work for a independent video production company, I'll have to load my jeep up with GoPro cameras. 
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Do you know anything of cost or the application process for the non-resident FID card? You'll fill out the following forms: FID Application Mental Health Fingerprint fees are around $70 - what I don't know is if the Troopers will do your fingerprints, or if they'll send you off to an outside company to do them. Best thing to do is just call a barracks and ask them what their procedure is. Where do you get finger printed for $70? My local PD didn't charge me anything. If they did, it would have been $5.
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Trooper Douchebag has effectively, and unilaterally, banned you from setting foot in this state again. Seems a little contrary to the US Constitution, no?
Only private property can use defiant tresspass...and needs a judge to sign off. He commited an act of official misconduct, abusing his authority. If you want go make a complaint to the NJSP, if you want send me the time date, mile, etc and I will see it gets looked into. |
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LOL, Jew Jersey..... that is down right fucked up and scary...what if you had the firearm with it ? even if it was cased ? FUCK NJ... and all those that stick up for it...its a sad over taxed over regulated fkn shithole. NJ can go fuck itself. While we all agree, some things are best left unsaid, or worded differently.
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Trooper Douchebag has effectively, and unilaterally, banned you from setting foot in this state again. Seems a little contrary to the US Constitution, no?
Only private property can use defiant tresspass...and needs a judge to sign off. He commited an act of official misconduct, abusing his authority. If you want go make a complaint to the NJSP, if you want send me the time date, mile, etc and I will see it gets looked into. If you're being serious I will send you the information and I've contemplated making a complaint but I haven't yet. I have a rough estimate of time and the exact location as well as the officer's name but no badge number. The guy wouldn't even come close to me after he found the bullet. He stayed outside of a 4 foot range the entire time only stepping towards me to take my license and ordered me not to return to the vehicle until he was gone. Thinking about it now, he almost seemed scared of me... |
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LOL... your poision bro....
its just rediculous. its not just the cops fault, its how thier trained, all the paranoia and anti gun shit crammed into thier heads.... NJ just sucks if your a gun owner. and always will. i know FFL's that refuse to even drive thru NY, NJ, etc. its just a very over the top Police state when it comes to guns,.. your better off getting bagged with hookers and blow. lol. |
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you can moan all you want, they will always side with the Officer, bla bla shouldn't of had the 3030 rolling around the vehicle, etc.
just be glad you didn't get hammered for something. NJ just is so fkn anti gun. but funny thing, there is ALOT of guns in NJ. they just crush you one gun owner at a time, when they get thier chance. |
| What this event shows is that the anti gun NJ police officer isn't mature enough to handle, own, enforce laws regarding, or even look at a gun or anything firearms related. When you treat a .30 - .30 round as if it is a dirty bomb surrounded by TNT, you do not have the mental capabilities to perform your job at all, in the least. The anti gun NJ cop should seek employment as a security guard at their local mall instead of dealing with actual laws/codes etc. Enforcing a "no skate boarding" rule at the mall is much more in line with their talents and abilities. |
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Most of it is poor training, the trainers in many departments kiss ass,they refused me and my Academy roommate to become Firearms instructors, Either of us has multiple weapons and shoot recreationals. I am the only officer qualified with 3 handgun. They put 3 in for Instructer....2 failed.
They teach a lot of BS to us. There are many in LE that are having their first exposure to firearms on the job. That is the problem |
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There are many in LE that are having their first exposure to firearms on the job. That is the problem Ain't that the truth! My son-in-law is on one of the many local forces in Camden County (no, not Camden City) and he's not a gun person. If he goes to the range more than his semi-annual quals, it's a lot. And he's NEVER been to the range with me for recreational shooting. (Not sure if he's afraid I'll outshoot him, or just shoot him) 
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| I am not buying the "poor training" argument in regards to firearms. Treating a .30-.30 round like a weapon of mass destruction is completely ridiculous. I would expect this behavior in the UK, not the USA. Any cop who does not know a law/code has no business commenting on it at all. If you don't know a law about a specific matter, the person detained needs to go free or a supervisor needs to be called. The OP should not have been treated the way he was. How does a state trooper consider himself to be "THE ULTIMATE AUTHORITY" on deciding who can come into this state and who cannot? There is no law on the books giving one person in law enforcement that kind of power. |
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Quoted: There are many in LE that are having their first exposure to firearms on the job. That is the problem Many, if not all, of the departments rather the individual never touch a firearm before entering the academy. I have a CCW + being a NRA instructor and they talk down to me. |
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There are many in LE that are having their first exposure to firearms on the job. That is the problem Many, if not all, of the departments rather the individual never touch a firearm before entering the academy. I have a CCW + being a NRA instructor and they talk down to me. Doesn't surprise me. With that being said, I'd bet at least 50% struggle to hit a B-27 at 7yds
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I guess I better clean my car out before I go to my folks house. Yup... make sure you check between the seat cushions.
I'm in the same boat... both my parents and my in-laws are still in NJ. Sux having to leave my carry piece (and everything else) at home. I refuse to even make the attempt to get an out of state FID though. F-that. I left NJ to avoid having to do any of that nonsense. In-laws might eventually leave NJ... unfortunately, no sign that my parents will ever leave that hell hole. I have no idea why they didn't just move across the river to Pennsy. 
Although I'm used to checking the car for even spent shell casings... given I drive thru DC almost every day and being in possession of a SPENT casing (or any other component) is a felony. I have nightmares of being caught with a spent 22 casing wedged in the tread of my shoe.
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Do you know anything of cost or the application process for the non-resident FID card? You'll fill out the following forms: FID Application Mental Health Fingerprint fees are around $70 - what I don't know is if the Troopers will do your fingerprints, or if they'll send you off to an outside company to do them. Best thing to do is just call a barracks and ask them what their procedure is. I applied for my FID card in March at the local NJSP barracks, they had a sign on the front door saying they no longer offer fingerprinting services for FID applicants. Done through a contracting company. |
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Do you know anything of cost or the application process for the non-resident FID card? You'll fill out the following forms: FID Application Mental Health Fingerprint fees are around $70 - what I don't know is if the Troopers will do your fingerprints, or if they'll send you off to an outside company to do them. Best thing to do is just call a barracks and ask them what their procedure is. Where do you get finger printed for $70? My local PD didn't charge me anything. If they did, it would have been $5.When did you get yours done? Local PDs don't do fingerprinting for FIDs anymore. |
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LOL, Jew Jersey..... that is down right fucked up and scary...what if you had the firearm with it ? even if it was cased ? FUCK NJ... and all those that stick up for it...its a sad over taxed over regulated fkn shithole. NJ can go fuck itself. True, but most people that aren't thickskinned enough or financially capable ,say that about N.J.. If you can make it here you can make it anywhere,and not the other way arround. 
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Quoted: wrongHe is completely full of shit... there is NO requirement to have ANY kind of permit, license, ID card, or anything of that ilk to possess rifle ammunition. As long as it wasn't a hollow-point round, a 30-30 rifle round isn't subject to any restrictions. We DO have laws that restrict possession of hollow-point rounds (2C:39-3f), and we have laws that restrict the PURCHASE or TRANSFER of handgun ammunition. However, such law does NOT prohibit the POSSESSION of handgun ammunition (2C:58-3.3, if you're curious). As such, it's perfectly legal for you to acquire handgun ammunition in CT, and then possess it in NJ (again, assuming it is not of the hollow-point variety). So let me get this straight - Trooper Douchebag has effectively, and unilaterally, banned you from setting foot in this state again. Seems a little contrary to the US Constitution, no? You know... free travel, and all that? What can I tell you... assholes abound in every profession. As far as your other question: Is transporting a firearm through and into your state illegal without a NJ permit? Perfectly legal... you may transport an unloaded firearm into NJ, if you are going directly to a place of target practice. See 2C:39-6f(3)(b). Said firearm must be unloaded, and either contained in a securely fastened case, or locked in the trunk (I'd recommend both). See 2C:39-6g for specifics. However, on your way to or from the target range, do not make any other stops that are not "reasonably necessary under the circumstances". That means, don't go meet your buddy at his house... don't stop to get coffee... stop if you must for gas, but try and plan things out so you fill up on the other side of the border. When travelling to PA from CT, you're covered by both NJ law (since you're on your way to a place of target practice), as well as federal law (FOPA). To maintain FOPA protection, you must lock your firearm case (or have it locked in the trunk). NJ law doesn't require the locked case, but federal law does. Take all the precautions you can, and lock everything up. Also, FOPA specifies that the ammunition be kept separate from the firearm. Again, NJ law doesn't require that - however, you want all the protection you can get - make sure the ammo is kept separate from the firearm, and is inaccessible to the driver (in a locked container will suffice). |
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Quoted: In NJ you can possess them to and from a range to your home or from a store to your home, if you're going to a movie and you forgot you have 10 hollow points in your ash tray you're fucked and indicted if caught, no shit!If a cop finds a hollow point bullet in my truck I get arrested? I thought I could only get charged with having hollow points bullets in a commission of a crime. I didn't think a traffic offense would be considered a crime for me to get arrested for having hollow points. I know it’s a traffic offense but I thought you were legally allowed to own hollow point bullets and you could only get charged with them in a commission of a crime. Hope someone could shed some light on this subject. Thanks.. |
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And then get arrested for taping a cop in NJ with out his consentI'd start video taping my travels through this shitbag state. wrong - NJ is a one-party consent state. Therefore, if his conversation is with you, you're perfectly legal to record the conversation. |