Posted: 12/18/2009 11:00:16 AM EDT
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Hey fella's...I've never done a private transfer before so I figured I'd ask as I'm sure some of you guys have.
I have a buddy that has a valid NJ FID that I want to sell a rifle to. He talked to his local PD and I don't know if it's just because they like him (he's active military) or what but they said all he needs to do is fill out the voluntary registration papers they've given him and have me sign to make it legal. This doesn't seem quite accurate to me though, so I was wondering if anyone knows what I need to do to make it legal. I of course would never in a million years expect him to get into any trouble with it, but I don't want this thing still registered to me on the off chance that someone steals it from him or does something untoward with it. I don't feel like going to jail or bringing crap down on my family. Bonus points for the PD telling him whenever he wanted a pistol permit to just drop by and ask. WTF I need to live there I guess.... |
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Hey fella's...I've never done a private transfer before so I figured I'd ask as I'm sure some of you guys have. I have a buddy that has a valid NJ FID that I want to sell a rifle to. He talked to his local PD and I don't know if it's just because they like him (he's active military) or what but they said all he needs to do is fill out the voluntary registration papers they've given him and have me sign to make it legal. This doesn't seem quite accurate to me though, so I was wondering if anyone knows what I need to do to make it legal. I of course would never in a million years expect him to get into any trouble with it, but I don't want this thing still registered to me on the off chance that someone steals it from him or does something untoward with it. I don't feel like going to jail or bringing crap down on my family. Bonus points for the PD telling him whenever he wanted a pistol permit to just drop by and ask. WTF I need to live there I guess.... It's easy, a "Certificate Of Eligibility" form is all you and your buddy need, fill out 2 copies, fill out the appropriate areas and sign, one copy for you and one for him. You can find these forms on the NJ State Police website under firearms and forms. |
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Quoted: fill out two of these, you keep one and give one to him. that's it! http://www.njsp.org/info/pdf/firearms/sp-634.pdf http://www.njsp.org/info/pdf/firearms/sp-634.pdf Made "hot " for you |
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fill out two of these, you keep one and give one to him. that's it! http://www.njsp.org/info/pdf/firearms/sp-634.pdf http://www.njsp.org/info/pdf/firearms/sp-634.pdf Made "hot " for you Dont turn us on like that. 
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I thought the form was optional and that you only had to see the FID card ect to make sure the person was a registered firearm holder or something like that. As I see it, the " Form " basically protects you the seller as proof you sold the firearm to another FID holder in the eyes of the State, even though they do not see the transaction. If the firearm is stolen or used in a commission of a crime and recovered by the PoPo as evidence, the Sate will trace it back to you, if you have no proof of the transaction, you are in for a ride. 
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I thought the form was optional and that you only had to see the FID card ect to make sure the person was a registered firearm holder or something like that. As I see it, the " Form " basically protects you the seller as proof you sold the firearm to another FID holder in the eyes of the State, even though they do not see the transaction. If the firearm is stolen or used in a commission of a crime and recovered by the PoPo as evidence, the Sate will trace it back to you, if you have no proof of the transaction, you are in for a ride. amen brother....better safe than sorry. better to be the buyer... |
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I thought the form was optional and that you only had to see the FID card ect to make sure the person was a registered firearm holder or something like that. It is REQUIRED by NJ state law to use it when disposing or acquiring firearms of any kind, even if only temporary. IE: The law is written so if you were to loan your rifle to a friend, it would have to be on a COE, and the same would apply when he gave it back to you. It would even apply when your sitting right next to each other at the range, but I doubt that would even be enforced. Really though, its for your own safety. Just like all of the gun laws. 
Imagine if you bought a gun with a body on it and didn't have a COE to prove you just acquired it. |
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IE: The law is written so if you were to loan your rifle to a friend, it would have to be on a COE, and the same would apply when he gave it back to you. It would even apply when your sitting right next to each other at the range, but I doubt that would even be enforced. Not true. 2C:58-3.1 allows for the temporary transfer of a firearm to any non-prohibited individual 18 years or older, regardless of whether or not they possess an FID. The transfer must happen on a range, and can only be for up to 8 hours. So, go ahead and swap rifles with your buddy on a range... no paperwork needed. |