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10/20/2012 11:02:17 AM EDT
Anyone know where you can get a run down on what exactly is ITAR restricted for postage from states to UK ?


Thanks
10/20/2012 12:09:22 PM EDT
[#1]
check out the international list on brownells
10/21/2012 2:33:31 AM EDT
[#2]
Hi Chris,

the Brownells Export list is still a bit woolly, I am just a simple shooter and need it all in bullet points (grammatically I mean!)

Can a 10rd .22 magazine be exported from the US without a license, i.e. can my rellies send me one?

10/21/2012 3:21:53 AM EDT
[#3]
As long as it costs less than $100 and isnt a shotgun mag extenshion tube yes. However higher capacity than 10 requires an export permit
10/21/2012 3:58:51 AM EDT
[#4]
Hi Chris,

thats exactly what I thought it was, but some peeps on another forum are getting all clicky about it :(

thank you for clearing it up for me, I was loosing the will to live with the ITAR I must say.

10/21/2012 8:30:52 AM EDT
[#5]
Easiest thing to do is emails brownells international sales team with the item number out their catalogue. They will email you back to advise if it is ITAT prohibited or not. But as you said its a 10 round mag so its not
10/21/2012 8:31:59 AM EDT
[#6]
I wouldn't worry about it, there are a few good dealers in the UK that can get anything you need provided its UK legal and available to order.
10/21/2012 8:37:10 AM EDT
[#7]
As DI_Burnside said. Either order from a UK dealer who has a import and export liscence. Or order from a reputable US dealer such as Brownells or Midway. They will make sure everything is above board. Just remember you will get stung for import tax so when you look at a US price factor in what its going to cost after its been shipped and customes and handling charges
10/21/2012 10:38:01 AM EDT
[#8]
I totally understand what you mean, I do purchase stuff from Brownells but they don't stock these

Blackdog 10rd SS Lip X-form magazine

As you can see at 44Mag they are $15, Midway USA $23.99 and MidwayUK £36.88

I don't mind paying a little extra for the mags but when its 4 times as much from midwayuk than it is from 44mag.


dum de dum de dum, oh for cosmetically pleasing magazines ...................................
10/21/2012 11:12:25 AM EDT
[#9]
These things do often look like a bargain but if you factor;










  • between 2%-6% duty


  • 20% VAT


  • Shipping from US


  • Parcelfarce handling fee possibly


  • Long waits if customs delay









The landed cost usually becomes similar. UK gun dealers need to take a cut and make a living just like the rest of us and we need them to prosper!






 
10/21/2012 12:18:30 PM EDT
[#10]
I agree, I usually buy for UK dealers. If my boss cant order it me in then I buy from a US importer (usually Brownelles) I recently bought a rail from them for my 590. Cost me $229 for the rail $47 for shipping then £47 UK import taxes and a £8 handling fee from parcel force. Unless you cant get the item from any UK dealler as its not common or rare then by all means US order providing it is legal and doeant breach ITAR. But rremember not only will it end up costing more i orderd my stuff from brownells early september and it only arrived last week. spent 2 weeks in customs for them to send me a bill.
10/24/2012 3:40:31 AM EDT
[#11]
Quoted:
As long as it costs less than $100 and isn't a shotgun mag extension tube yes. However higher capacity than 10 requires an export permit


there's State Department and ITAR, and then there's the Commerce Departments's Office of Export Enforcement and its Commerce Control List and Export Administration Regulations... just because it doesn't meet ITAR requirements does not mean you don't need a license...
10/24/2012 5:52:59 AM EDT
[#12]
Quoted:
Quoted:
As long as it costs less than $100 and isn't a shotgun mag extension tube yes. However higher capacity than 10 requires an export permit


there's State Department and ITAR, and then there's the Commerce Departments's Office of Export Enforcement and its Commerce Control List and Export Administration Regulations... just because it doesn't meet ITAR requirements does not mean you don't need a license...


Blinking hell I thought the UK's systems were bad.

So basically there isn't one simple one stop shop with the US Government to get a yes or no from.
10/24/2012 10:24:34 AM EDT
[#13]
I can get you them cheaper than that, what are you putting them in?






 
10/25/2012 1:25:57 PM EDT
[#14]
Are 30 round PMags legal in the UK and can I mail them to you in the UK? Do they open every international package?
10/25/2012 1:29:12 PM EDT
[#15]



Quoted:


Are 30 round PMags legal in the UK and can I mail them to you in the UK? Do they open every international package?


Yes they are legal.

 
No, you can't send them.

They don't open all packages but it ain't worth it
10/25/2012 4:14:39 PM EDT
[#16]
Quoted:
Are 30 round PMags legal in the UK and can I mail them to you in the UK? Do they open every international package?


Hi Bear,

the issue isn't with the UK side of things its the US export controls on mags over 10rds capacity. If you were to send 30rd mags overseas I expect you might get a visit from the Men in Black with a pair of Latex Gloves!
10/25/2012 6:07:58 PM EDT
[#17]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Are 30 round PMags legal in the UK and can I mail them to you in the UK? Do they open every international package?


Hi Bear,

the issue isn't with the UK side of things its the US export controls on mags over 10rds capacity. If you were to send 30rd mags overseas I expect you might get a visit from the Men in Black with a pair of Latex Gloves!


I see. What if I brought them over with me?
10/25/2012 7:53:06 PM EDT
[#18]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Are 30 round PMags legal in the UK and can I mail them to you in the UK? Do they open every international package?


Hi Bear,

the issue isn't with the UK side of things its the US export controls on mags over 10rds capacity. If you were to send 30rd mags overseas I expect you might get a visit from the Men in Black with a pair of Latex Gloves!


I see. What if I brought them over with me?


still a no-no
10/25/2012 11:01:56 PM EDT
[#19]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Are 30 round PMags legal in the UK and can I mail them to you in the UK? Do they open every international package?


Hi Bear,

the issue isn't with the UK side of things its the US export controls on mags over 10rds capacity. If you were to send 30rd mags overseas I expect you might get a visit from the Men in Black with a pair of Latex Gloves!


I see. What if I brought them over with me?


still a no-no



Hi Bear,

I believe 10rd mags are fine, (which is my understanding so I would advise you double check that), and anything greater than 10 is an issue for your Government.
10/26/2012 3:35:02 AM EDT
[#20]
Edited...VA-gunnut
10/26/2012 6:39:08 AM EDT
[#21]






Quoted:


Edited...VA-gunnut
That's 'cos they didn't know about him until now.......






 
10/26/2012 6:43:00 AM EDT
[#22]

Quoted:


Edited...VA-gunnut






doesn't mean it wasn't a violation of the various export laws and regulations
 
10/27/2012 5:48:06 PM EDT
[#23]

Quoted:



Quoted:


Edited...VA-gunnut.






doesn't mean it wasn't a violation of the various export laws and regulations






Do you know how to get an export license for something like mags?
 
10/28/2012 1:41:08 AM EDT
[#24]

Quoted:



Quoted:



Quoted:


Edited...VA-gunnut






doesn't mean it wasn't a violation of the various export laws and regulations






Do you know how to get an export license for something like mags?






Hi Beararmy,





if you are looking at sending out any mags over 10rds then you might want to check out http://www.questarms.com this is the company that Blackdog recommend. If you are only going to send out 10rd magazines as 'birthday presents' / gifts then you probably don't require a license. I am sure that Hrt4me might be able to assist with my 10rd mag comment.
 
10/28/2012 11:56:59 AM EDT
[#25]
Export Control Basics (Exporting 101)