Posted: 11/3/2011 12:10:25 AM EDT
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May well have been discussed before, but looked and cannot find a thread. I have been offered a V22 at a half decent price - £650. As not many seem to come on the second hand market has anyone got any tips on issues / areas i should be checking over when i get eyes on it ?
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Quoted: As long as it cycles consistently it should be fine. My V22 is still my favourite gun, but I have seen some that are a nightmare (like many other .22 semi-autos). There seems to be a lot of variation in build tolerances. The lower on mine will accept aluminium mags and BDM mags without problem, but won't accept PMAGS (too tight). Not an issue if you never use it with a .223 upper. I have a friend with one that cycles fine, but BDM mags are a little snug and don't drop free. I wouldn't buy another without putting at least 100 rounds through it out of a BDM mag, without malfunction.....or something I could easily identify and fix.May well have been discussed before, but looked and cannot find a thread. I have been offered a V22 at a half decent price - £650. As not many seem to come on the second hand market has anyone got any tips on issues / areas i should be checking over when i get eyes on it ? Thanks G If it's well used you could check for wear/strikes between the bolt and the upper as it cycles, rear take down pins can get quite worn, firing pin and extractor claw wear. That's pretty much it. I'm currently tempted by a 12" upper not a million miles away from me. I don't need it, but you know how it is..........................  |
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Check the barrel for bulges, I've seen two with slight bulges half way down where a round has failed to exit the barrel and another has pushed it out. Both still shot OK and had reasonable accuracy in the limited test I did. This is true, try before you buy. You don't want to end up with a pup |
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I have seen so many of these semis used so fast that there is no aiming or even chance of hitting the target and often the round fires before the bolt is fully home.
This not only causes the case to rupture near the base in many instances but also a lower pressure propelling the round and this can cause the bullet to only get half way down the barrel. The next shot pushes both bullets out the end but can often bulge the barrel in the process. As rambo is shooting so fast and not even aiming he doesn't notice the change in sound, the lack of bullet strike or the fact that the person to the right has a face full of brass and powder residue. The barres in rim-fire ARs are most likely strong enough to contain the bullets but some lightweight barrels might not. If you are getting cases bulged near the base or even ruptured it is usually a sign the round is firing out of battery. Clean the bolt face and chamber to allow proper seating or check the sear is holding the hammer. And maybe slow down just a bit. |
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I have seen so many of these semis used so fast that there is no aiming or even chance of hitting the target and often the round fires before the bolt is fully home. This not only causes the case to rupture near the base in many instances but also a lower pressure propelling the round and this can cause the bullet to only get half way down the barrel. The next shot pushes both bullets out the end but can often bulge the barrel in the process. As rambo is shooting so fast and not even aiming he doesn't notice the change in sound, the lack of bullet strike or the fact that the person to the right has a face full of brass and powder residue. The barres in rim-fire ARs are most likely strong enough to contain the bullets but some lightweight barrels might not. If you are getting cases bulged near the base or even ruptured it is usually a sign the round is firing out of battery. Clean the bolt face and chamber to allow proper seating or check the sear is holding the hammer. And maybe slow down just a bit. Haha true, you see them with the fastest trigger finger in the west, but show them a cof and a shot timer and watch their balls shrivel 
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I have seen so many of these semis used so fast that there is no aiming or even chance of hitting the target and often the round fires before the bolt is fully home. This not only causes the case to rupture near the base in many instances but also a lower pressure propelling the round and this can cause the bullet to only get half way down the barrel. The next shot pushes both bullets out the end but can often bulge the barrel in the process. As rambo is shooting so fast and not even aiming he doesn't notice the change in sound, the lack of bullet strike or the fact that the person to the right has a face full of brass and powder residue. The barres in rim-fire ARs are most likely strong enough to contain the bullets but some lightweight barrels might not. If you are getting cases bulged near the base or even ruptured it is usually a sign the round is firing out of battery. Clean the bolt face and chamber to allow proper seating or check the sear is holding the hammer. And maybe slow down just a bit. Haha true, you see them with the fastest trigger finger in the west, but show them a cof and a shot timer and watch their balls shrivel
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I have seen so many of these semis used so fast that there is no aiming or even chance of hitting the target and often the round fires before the bolt is fully home. This not only causes the case to rupture near the base in many instances but also a lower pressure propelling the round and this can cause the bullet to only get half way down the barrel. Had this happen twice to once of my V22's. I did notice the difference in muzzle report though, but the fired shell didn't eject anyway so another one going up after it luckily wasn't an issue! I think I traced it to a slight mar above the chamber caused by dry firing, combined with a tight chamber. Filed the marring out and touch wood haven't had it happen since. My V22's have different diameter chambers though. One is marked as a Victor Arms built one and has a tighter, possibly match chamber. This is the one I had the two OOBs in a couple of years ago, it really likes the cheap standard velocity Remington ammo though. The other is only marked as CZ rather than Victor Arms, and has a looser/bigger diameter chamber, perhaps a normal .22 chamber? and has no problems firing anything I have put through it from CCI Subs to Mini mags with no FTF's. |
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I owned a V22 until recently, only sold as it sat at the back of the cabinet not getting much use. I've got to be honest I never had any drama's at all, it worked well with the ubiquitous Mini Mag and Black Dog, SGC and Victor Arms mags. The only time I have seen issues seem to be down to cleaning. I've got to be honest and say I quite like some of these new wave of tactical .22 AR clones. I was looking at the HK and it was not atall dissimilar to the real thing which I had the pleasure of shooting earlier this year. A couple of folk at ARPC own the SW M&P and they appear to be good guns but I guess untimatly time and n x 1000 rounds down the barrel will tell.
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................. I've got to be honest and say I quite like some of these new wave of tactical .22 AR clones. I was looking at the HK and it was not atall dissimilar to the real thing which I had the pleasure of shooting earlier this year. A couple of folk at ARPC own the SW M&P and they appear to be good guns but I guess untimatly time and n x 1000 rounds down the barrel will tell. |
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I owned a V22 until recently, only sold as it sat at the back of the cabinet not getting much use. I've got to be honest I never had any drama's at all, it worked well with the ubiquitous Mini Mag and Black Dog, SGC and Victor Arms mags. The only time I have seen issues seem to be down to cleaning. I've got to be honest and say I quite like some of these new wave of tactical .22 AR clones. I was looking at the HK and it was not atall dissimilar to the real thing which I had the pleasure of shooting earlier this year. A couple of folk at ARPC own the SW M&P and they appear to be good guns but I guess untimatly time and n x 1000 rounds down the barrel will tell. I raise you a real made of metal Ar15 in .22lr :D 
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Check the barrel for bulges, I've seen two with slight bulges half way down where a round has failed to exit the barrel and another has pushed it out. Both still shot OK and had reasonable accuracy in the limited test I did. This is true, try before you buy. You don't want to end up with a pup Definitely try. I've had my fair share of problems, which are still ongoing, and mine was new. I have seen so many of these semis used so fast that there is no aiming or even chance of hitting the target and often the round fires before the bolt is fully home. Wow... chance would be a fine thing! I have to check that the bolt has closed fully on mine after every round...more often than not it hasn't. |
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May well have been discussed before, but looked and cannot find a thread. I have been offered a V22 at a half decent price - £650. As not many seem to come on the second hand market has anyone got any tips on issues / areas i should be checking over when i get eyes on it ? Thanks G As long as it cycles consistently it should be fine. My V22 is still my favourite gun, but I have seen some that are a nightmare (like many other .22 semi-autos). There seems to be a lot of variation in build tolerances. The lower on mine will accept aluminium mags and BDM mags without problem, but won't accept PMAGS (too tight). Not an issue if you never use it with a .223 upper. I have a friend with one that cycles fine, but BDM mags are a little snug and don't drop free. I wouldn't buy another without putting at least 100 rounds through it out of a BDM mag, without malfunction.....or something I could easily identify and fix. If it's well used you could check for wear/strikes between the bolt and the upper as it cycles, rear take down pins can get quite worn, firing pin and extractor claw wear. That's pretty much it. I'm currently tempted by a 12" upper not a million miles away from me. I don't need it, but you know how it is.......................... I've posted in the past enquiring what lowers other V22 owners are using. To be more specific, what lowers are people using sucessfully with BDM mags? With my SGC lower BDM mags are a very loose fit. It will feed, fire and eject reasonably well, provided I only load 5 rounds! Any more and it really is hit or miss with feed( pun intended!) In fact I've been contemplating replacing the lower. Not just to see if it would resolve any of the feed/eject problems if they were down to tolerance issues, but it's started to show wear/play on the front pivot/takedown pin holes. The hammer pin holes have also elongated and allow the hammer to 'cam' on firing. I fitted KNS anti-rotation pins, but I'd spotted the wear too late. |
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..... I've got to be honest and say I quite like some of these new wave of tactical .22 AR clones. I was looking at the HK and it was not atall dissimilar to the real thing which I had the pleasure of shooting earlier this year. A couple of folk at ARPC own the SW M&P and they appear to be good guns but I guess untimatly time and n x 1000 rounds down the barrel will tell. I like the S&W also. Its got a working bolt hold open, just like a proper AR. |
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..... I've got to be honest and say I quite like some of these new wave of tactical .22 AR clones. I was looking at the HK and it was not atall dissimilar to the real thing which I had the pleasure of shooting earlier this year. A couple of folk at ARPC own the SW M&P and they appear to be good guns but I guess untimatly time and n x 1000 rounds down the barrel will tell. I like the S&W also. Its got a working bolt hold open, just like a proper AR. Now that's just mean - he's only just come back on here! |