Posted: 4/19/2011 3:38:56 AM EDT
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A short while ago we had a spate of Catalytic Converters being cut of 4x4's, vans etc anything that the pikeys could lay underneath and cut of easy, i had one stolen, a business friend had all his vans done, another business had 16 stolen, when the cops came to me i showed them the cut ends that were left behind and mentioned to the cops that they must have been cut with large cutters of some kind due to the shape of the cut, the cop then said 'This figures with what has been stolen a few weeks ago' turned out that the pikeys had broken into 4 or 5 fire stations and stolen the Jaws of Life, to date no one has been taken to court over any of this, they wont arrest a pikey unless they have to.
My son bought a Ford Transit Van to scrap and when he opened the back doors it had a hole about a metre square cut into the floor on the left hand side, this had been used by gypsies to stop and pull over a kerb side drain cover, two blokes then lifted the covers up into the van leaving a hole in the road which they then took to the scrap yards to cash in. My wife's little sister has a couple of babies by a pikey and he told me about the catalytic converters, they would steal them and sell them to a scrapper and they knew where the scrapper stored them so they sole them all again and sold them to a different scrapper for £18,000.00. I pulled these quotes from another forum, and wantd to see if this type of stuff really happens. It seems kind of extreme. Why dont the police arrest them unless they have to, and whats ment by the name "pikey"? |
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Yes it's true. Pikey is a derogatory term for a Gypsy, call a Gypsy a Pikey to his face & you're a brave man. 
Like every other minority over here the authorities bend over backwards to help them. I'm not a fan. 
Andy. Maybe where you are. We have no problem addressing issues with members of the 'Travelling Community'...... |
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I can shed a little light on the fact that authorities can be seen to be a little loathe to enforce when it comes to members of the traveller community ( and certain other groups )
Here there are a number of reasons............... 1, When a child is born to travellers, it is often passed from caravan to caravan and registered as a birth 10 times. Therefore 10 different individuals on which to claim benefits and 10 aliases later in criminal life. So, prosecution is often more bother than its worth. 2, Cost. If it takes one officer 3 hours to arrest, charge and do the paperwork for a petty theft, it costs X amount for that prosecution. If the arrest is for a traveller on a traveller site, the cost is 100 times as much when you factor in the pre planned op, the public order officers, the ambulance on standby, the media liason officer etc etc etc etc 3, Even after the arrest, bail will be given and guess what, I have NEVER had a SINGLE traveller return on bail !!!! So, more man hours wasted on a search......................... 4, A riot is likely to break out. Dozens will be hurt. And cries of racism will ensue. Lots of force media gurus will decide on "no further action" rather than an arrest especially if for a "routine" or "petty" offence. Bloody annoying and they ( and certain other groups ) know about it and take advantage of it. For instance, issue a road traffic offence penalty notice to a commuter you stop driving his new saloon car in Kensington High Street and you might get a little irritable indignation. Try the same in Harlesden to a teenage in an uninsured 15 year old Fiat Punto in possession of a provisional licence and watch how quickly a crowd gathers crying racism and making it inpracticable to issue the penalty notice. 
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Yes it's true. Pikey is a derogatory term for a Gypsy, call a Gypsy a Pikey to his face & you're a brave man.
Like every other minority over here the authorities bend over backwards to help them. I'm not a fan.
Andy. Maybe where you are. We have no problem addressing issues with members of the 'Travelling Community'...... Same thing in my area. I have a few mates who are cops, they say there is no point in arresting Pikeys for petty stuff, so they deal out a bit of "Justice" when they can. |
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Yes it's true. Pikey is a derogatory term for a Gypsy, call a Gypsy a Pikey to his face & you're a brave man.
Like every other minority over here the authorities bend over backwards to help them. I'm not a fan.
Andy. Maybe where you are. We have no problem addressing issues with members of the 'Travelling Community'...... I thought it was caravan user non tourist now?
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Yes it's true. Pikey is a derogatory term for a Gypsy, call a Gypsy a Pikey to his face & you're a brave man.
Like every other minority over here the authorities bend over backwards to help them. I'm not a fan.
Andy. Maybe where you are. We have no problem addressing issues with members of the 'Travelling Community'...... I thought it was caravan user non tourist Caravan Using Non Tourist now?
...fixed it for ya!!
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I can shed a little light on the fact that authorities can be seen to be a little loathe to enforce when it comes to members of the traveller community ( and certain other groups ) Here there are a number of reasons............... 1, When a child is born to travellers, it is often passed from caravan to caravan and registered as a birth 10 times. Therefore 10 different individuals on which to claim benefits and 10 aliases later in criminal life. So, prosecution is often more bother than its worth. 2, Cost. If it takes one officer 3 hours to arrest, charge and do the paperwork for a petty theft, it costs X amount for that prosecution. If the arrest is for a traveller on a traveller site, the cost is 100 times as much when you factor in the pre planned op, the public order officers, the ambulance on standby, the media liason officer etc etc etc etc 3, Even after the arrest, bail will be given and guess what, I have NEVER had a SINGLE traveller return on bail !!!! So, more man hours wasted on a search......................... 4, A riot is likely to break out. Dozens will be hurt. And cries of racism will ensue. Lots of force media gurus will decide on "no further action" rather than an arrest especially if for a "routine" or "petty" offence. Bloody annoying and they ( and certain other groups ) know about it and take advantage of it. For instance, issue a road traffic offence penalty notice to a commuter you stop driving his new saloon car in Kensington High Street and you might get a little irritable indignation. Try the same in Harlesden to a teenage in an uninsured 15 year old Fiat Punto in possession of a provisional licence and watch how quickly a crowd gathers crying racism and making it inpracticable to issue the penalty notice. Sorry, but all the above is certainly not true for Surrey - plenty of traveller sites down here, plenty of travellers out & about, and there have never been any issues regarding arrests or executing warrants. |
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I can shed a little light on the fact that authorities can be seen to be a little loathe to enforce when it comes to members of the traveller community ( and certain other groups ) Here there are a number of reasons............... 1, When a child is born to travellers, it is often passed from caravan to caravan and registered as a birth 10 times. Therefore 10 different individuals on which to claim benefits and 10 aliases later in criminal life. So, prosecution is often more bother than its worth. 2, Cost. If it takes one officer 3 hours to arrest, charge and do the paperwork for a petty theft, it costs X amount for that prosecution. If the arrest is for a traveller on a traveller site, the cost is 100 times as much when you factor in the pre planned op, the public order officers, the ambulance on standby, the media liason officer etc etc etc etc 3, Even after the arrest, bail will be given and guess what, I have NEVER had a SINGLE traveller return on bail !!!! So, more man hours wasted on a search......................... 4, A riot is likely to break out. Dozens will be hurt. And cries of racism will ensue. Lots of force media gurus will decide on "no further action" rather than an arrest especially if for a "routine" or "petty" offence. Bloody annoying and they ( and certain other groups ) know about it and take advantage of it. For instance, issue a road traffic offence penalty notice to a commuter you stop driving his new saloon car in Kensington High Street and you might get a little irritable indignation. Try the same in Harlesden to a teenage in an uninsured 15 year old Fiat Punto in possession of a provisional licence and watch how quickly a crowd gathers crying racism and making it inpracticable to issue the penalty notice. Sorry, but all the above is certainly not true for Surrey - plenty of traveller sites down here, plenty of travellers out & about, and there have never been any issues regarding arrests or executing warrants. You clearly have a better class of traveller in Surrey compared to those who reside and frequent North West London
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I can shed a little light on the fact that authorities can be seen to be a little loathe to enforce when it comes to members of the traveller community ( and certain other groups ) Here there are a number of reasons............... 1, When a child is born to travellers, it is often passed from caravan to caravan and registered as a birth 10 times. Therefore 10 different individuals on which to claim benefits and 10 aliases later in criminal life. So, prosecution is often more bother than its worth. 2, Cost. If it takes one officer 3 hours to arrest, charge and do the paperwork for a petty theft, it costs X amount for that prosecution. If the arrest is for a traveller on a traveller site, the cost is 100 times as much when you factor in the pre planned op, the public order officers, the ambulance on standby, the media liason officer etc etc etc etc 3, Even after the arrest, bail will be given and guess what, I have NEVER had a SINGLE traveller return on bail !!!! So, more man hours wasted on a search......................... 4, A riot is likely to break out. Dozens will be hurt. And cries of racism will ensue. Lots of force media gurus will decide on "no further action" rather than an arrest especially if for a "routine" or "petty" offence. Bloody annoying and they ( and certain other groups ) know about it and take advantage of it. For instance, issue a road traffic offence penalty notice to a commuter you stop driving his new saloon car in Kensington High Street and you might get a little irritable indignation. Try the same in Harlesden to a teenage in an uninsured 15 year old Fiat Punto in possession of a provisional licence and watch how quickly a crowd gathers crying racism and making it inpracticable to issue the penalty notice. Sorry, but all the above is certainly not true for Surrey - plenty of traveller sites down here, plenty of travellers out & about, and there have never been any issues regarding arrests or executing warrants. You clearly have a better class of traveller in Surrey compared to those who reside in and frequent North West London
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Quoted: old skool WIN Pikeys on your land? Step 1: Remove their transportation. Step 2: Remove their accommodation. |
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I know a farmer which did similar. Small bit of land surrounded three sides by thick hedge and deep ditch. Found pikeys plotted up asked them to leave, nothing happened. Called plod, nothing happened. Spoke to nearby water treatment works and got 6 20T trailer loads of fermenting shit delivered and dumped next to their caravan's and entrance. Gone following day but they had to drive thro it
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Quoted: I know a farmer which did similar. Small bit of land surrounded three sides by thick hedge and deep ditch. Found pikeys plotted up asked them to leave, nothing happened. Called plod, nothing happened. Spoke to nearby water treatment works and got 6 20T trailer loads of fermenting shit delivered and dumped next to their caravan's and entrance. Gone following day but they had to drive thro it yer we have used a slurry truck a few times , works well  |
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I've known Gypsies that were good people and I've known a large number of the worst sort of trouble making thieving scum. I try not to tar them all with the same brush; however the good ones are a tiny majority - especially when they've got a couple on board.
Most have absolutely no respect for the law. They don't pay fines, don't go to court (unless taken there from the cells when on remand) and generally disregard the laws of the land that everyone else is forced to follow. They milk the system for everything that they can get and then complain that they are discriminated against - which considering they have usually robbed the people who are having a go at them is bit rich. There is only one language they really understand and I'm not talking about the version of Irish/English that Brad Pitt spoke in Snatch |
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What about the Italian way: make 'em an offer they can't refuse? An old wise man once told me not to worry about those who make threats or ultimatums, conditional or otherwise. Worry about those who say nothing at all................................ 
That reminds me of my great uncle. He would fire tracer rounds over the heads of people who came on his land uninvited. |
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What about the Italian way: make 'em an offer they can't refuse? An old wise man once told me not to worry about those who make threats or ultimatums, conditional or otherwise. Worry about those who say nothing at all................................
That reminds me of my great uncle. He would fire tracer rounds over the heads of people who came on his land uninvited. That's not hard....... tracer usually flies about 6 foot high at 400yds anyway. Should have used ball.
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What about the Italian way: make 'em an offer they can't refuse? An old wise man once told me not to worry about those who make threats or ultimatums, conditional or otherwise. Worry about those who say nothing at all................................
That reminds me of my great uncle. He would fire tracer rounds over the heads of people who came on his land uninvited. That's not hard....... tracer usually flies about 6 foot high at 400yds anyway. Should have used ball. 6' high is a bit if an exaggeration, but have you ever heard of balanced tracer? Flies to the same POI |
