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2/18/2011 5:01:21 AM EDT
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A bit of common sense for a change.
2/18/2011 5:13:19 AM EDT
[#1]
How do you think it would have gone if the 'raider' had been shot with something a little larger than an air rifle though?
2/18/2011 5:21:14 AM EDT
[#2]





2/18/2011 5:27:16 AM EDT
[#3]
I'll get the pliers
2/18/2011 5:30:48 AM EDT
[#4]
Quoted:
How do you think it would have gone if the 'raider' had been shot with something a little larger than an air rifle though?


I don't know but at least they didn't punish the home owner.
2/18/2011 5:51:25 AM EDT
[#5]
Quoted:
How do you think it would have gone if the 'raider' had been shot with something a little larger than an air rifle though?


Definately worse for the raider.
Might have saved a few quid on the trial though

2/18/2011 6:30:50 AM EDT
[#6]
I'm just glad Mr Holmes was able to retrieve his airgun from where it was securely stored since the 10th of this month in time to tackle the intruder, and put two shots into him.

If he had used a more capable firearm the same principle of self defence under S.3 Criminal Law Act, Common Law and even ECHR still stands..........but might have been a bit more messy..
2/18/2011 6:53:11 AM EDT
[#7]
"Patterson was given 18 months in a young offenders’ institution after admitting burglary at Hull Crown Court "

As he was 20, why didn't he get sent to a proper prison instead of a young offenders institute? I'm genuinely interested, not taking the piss.
2/18/2011 7:25:27 AM EDT
[#8]
Quoted:
"Patterson was given 18 months in a young offenders’ institution after admitting burglary at Hull Crown Court "

As he was 20, why didn't he get sent to a proper prison instead of a young offenders institute? I'm genuinely interested, not taking the piss.


'cos he has a mental age of 5 innit
2/18/2011 8:05:23 AM EDT
[#9]



Quoted:


I'm just glad Mr Holmes was able to retrieve his airgun from where it was securely stored since the 10th of this month in time to tackle the intruder, and put two shots into him.



If he had used a more capable firearm the same principle of self defence under S.3 Criminal Law Act, Common Law and even ECHR still stands..........but might have been a bit more messy..






Interesing bit of case law that said even if you used an illegally held firearm for self defence, you could be acquitted. You'd face seperate charges for possessing the firearm though.



Could never remember where I found that case now. Some interesting and surprisingly sensible comments made by the judge.



Just to clarify, I mention it because I found it interesting, not to suggest in any way, shape or form that someone should possess let alone use a firearm without appropriate authority.
2/18/2011 8:06:53 AM EDT
[#10]



Quoted:


"Patterson was given 18 months in a young offenders’ institution after admitting burglary at Hull Crown Court "



As he was 20, why didn't he get sent to a proper prison instead of a young offenders institute? I'm genuinely interested, not taking the piss.


Because, if memory serves, you can actually be in a YOI up to the age of 21 - I think even 22 in some circumstances. In this case it's probably because the adult jails are full



 
2/18/2011 8:16:58 AM EDT
[#11]
Quoted:

Quoted:
"Patterson was given 18 months in a young offenders’ institution after admitting burglary at Hull Crown Court "

As he was 20, why didn't he get sent to a proper prison instead of a young offenders institute? I'm genuinely interested, not taking the piss.

Because, if memory serves, you can actually be in a YOI up to the age of 21 - I think even 22 in some circumstances. In this case it's probably because the adult jails are full
 


Usually 21 before you meet 'Big Ron', bring your own soap
2/18/2011 10:49:07 PM EDT
[#12]
Quoted:
I'm just glad Mr Holmes was able to retrieve his airgun from where it was securely stored since the 10th of this month in time to tackle the intruder, and put two shots into him.




Icarus
Thats exactly how my dad would have said it. with just a touch added irony, sarcasm & fecetiousness

2/19/2011 2:23:36 PM EDT
[#13]
I'd love to post this in GD as a positive but I'd get slaughtered as it was an air rifle....
2/19/2011 2:39:47 PM EDT
[#14]



Quoted:

Usually 21 before you meet 'Big Ron', bring your own soap
Not sure if it is true or not, but I have always heard that many YOI are worse because of all the kids with something to prove.





 
2/19/2011 2:41:34 PM EDT
[#15]
Quoted:

Quoted:
Usually 21 before you meet 'Big Ron', bring your own soap
Not sure if it is true or not, but I have always heard that many YOI are worse because of all the kids with something to prove.

 


YOI = crime school
2/19/2011 10:59:56 PM EDT
[#16]




Quoted:

I'd love to post this in GD as a positive but I'd get slaughtered as it was an air rifle....




Well I hope you gents don't mind me giving you my .02 cents worth on this one (not sure what .02 cents are called on the other side of the pond). In any case, yeah to a degree it would be bashed to some length by most non thinking nuckledraggers in GD. Me, I have used a brain cell in the past, (one of few remaining) given how your firearm laws are over there. It does suck for the homeowner. To me though it would fall more under the heading of stupid criminal.
PS. I still say you gents drive on the wrong side of the road



I do know a few m8s from over there, seeing this now reminds me to drop them a line and say hello.
2/20/2011 6:47:54 AM EDT
[#17]
Considering England was formed well before we colonised the US, our style of driving is therefore correct by default
2/20/2011 8:57:43 AM EDT
[#18]
Default doesn't always work. Besides since we drive on the right side we are in our right minds.
2/20/2011 9:08:22 AM EDT
[#19]
Quoted:
Default doesn't always work. Besides since we drive on the right side we are in our right minds.



Actually, from the historical perspective, we drive on the correct, i.e. the left side. When people routinely carried swords, it was usual to keep to the left of the road in case an oncoming traveller attacked you. If you are right handed and get into a sword fight, you try to keep your opponent to your right where you can better defend yourself and parry his attack.  The Japanese know a thing or two about using swords and they follow the same convention. Why mainland Europe changed sides I don't know for sure, but I think it was to do with Napoleon putting his mark on the places he passed through.
2/20/2011 9:57:10 AM EDT
[#20]
Oh wow, that actually is intresting. I always say there is something new to be learned every day. Thank you for the insight.  





Ok then, maybe you can enlighten me as to better running joke between us?
2/20/2011 9:58:48 AM EDT
[#21]
List of left-driving countries

The following is a list of countries of the world whose inhabitants drive on the left-hand side of the road. Most of the drivers of these countries use right-hand-drive vehicles.

1. Anguilla
2. Antigua and Barbuda
3. Australia
4. Bahamas
5. Bangladesh
6. Barbados
7. Bermuda
8. Bhutan
9. Botswana
10. Brunei
11. Cayman Islands
12. Christmas Island (Australia)
13. Cook Islands
14. Cyprus
15. Dominica
16. East Timor
17. Falkland Islands
18. Fiji
19. Grenada
20. Guernsey (Channel Islands)
21. Guyana
22. Hong Kong
23. India
24. Indonesia
25. Ireland
26. Isle of Man
27. Jamaica
28. Japan
29. Jersey (Channel Islands)
30. Kenya
31. Kiribati
32. Cocos (Keeling) Islands (Australia)
33. Lesotho
34. Macau
35. Malawi
36. Malaysia
37. Maldives
38. Malta
39. Mauritius
40. Montserrat
41. Mozambique
42. Namibia
43. Nauru
44. Nepal
45. New Zealand
46. Niue
47. Norfolk Island (Australia)
48. Pakistan
49. Papua New Guinea
50. Pitcairn Islands (Britain)
51. Saint Helena
52. Saint Kitts and Nevis
53. Saint Lucia
54. Saint Vincent and the Grenadines
55. Samoa
56. Seychelles
57. Singapore
58. Solomon Islands
59. South Africa
60. Sri Lanka
61. Suriname
62. Swaziland
63. Tanzania
64. Thailand
65. Tokelau (New Zealand)
66. Tonga
67. Trinidad and Tobago
68. Turks and Caicos Islands
69. Tuvalu
70. Uganda
71. United Kingdom (England, Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland)
72. Virgin Islands (British)
73. Virgin Islands (US)
74. Zambia
75. Zimbabwe



List of right-driving countries

The following is a list of countries of the world whose inhabitants drive on the right-hand side of the road. Most of the drivers of these countries use left-hand-drive vehicles.

1. Afghanistan
2. Albania
3. Algeria
4. American Samoa
5. Andorra
6. Angola
7. Argentina
8. Armenia
9. Aruba
10. Austria
11. Azerbaijan
12. Bahrain
13. Belarus
14. Belgium
15. Belize
16. Benin
17. Bolivia
18. Bosnia and Herzegovina
19. Brazil
20. British Indian Ocean Territory (Diego García)
21. Bulgaria
22. Burkina Faso
23. Burundi
24. Cambodia
25. Cameroon
26. Canada
27. Cape Verde
28. Central African Republic
29. Chad
30. Chile
31. China, People's Republic of (Mainland China)
32. Colombia

33. Comoros
34. Congo
35. Congo (former Republic of Zaire)
36. Costa Rica
37. Croatia
38. Cuba
39. Czech Republic
40. Denmark
41. Djibouti
42. Dominican Republic
43. Ecuador
44. Egypt
45. El Salvador
46. Equatorial Guinea
47. Eritrea
48. Estonia
49. Ethiopia
50. Faroe Islands (Denmark)
51. Finland
52. France
53. French Guiana
54. French Polynesia
55. Gabon
56. Gambia, The
57. Gaza Strip
58. Georgia
59. Germany

60. Ghana
61. Gibraltar
62. Greece
63. Greenland
64. Guadeloupe (French West Indies)
65. Guam
66. Guatemala
67. Guinea
68. Guinea-Bissau
69. Haiti
70. Honduras
71. Hungary
72. Iceland
73. Iran
74. Iraq

75. Israel
76. Italy
77. Ivory Coast
78. Jordan
79. Kazakhstan
80. Korea, Democratic People's Republic of (North Korea)
81. Korea, Republic of (South Korea)
82. Kuwait
83. Kyrgyzstan
84. Laos
85. Latvia
86. Lebanon
87. Liberia
88. Libya
89. Liechtenstein
90. Lithuania
91. Luxembourg
92. Macedonia
93. Madagascar
94. Mali
95. Marshall Islands
96. Martinique (French West Indies)
97. Mauritania
98. Mayotte (France)
99. Mexico
100. Micronesia, Federated States of
101. Midway Islands (USA)
102. Moldova
103. Monaco
104. Mongolia
105. Morocco
106. Myanmar (formerly Burma)
107. Netherlands
108. Netherlands Antilles (Curaçao, St. Maarten, St. Eustatius, Saba)
109. New Caledonia
110. Nicaragua
111. Niger
112. Nigeria
113. Northern Mariana Islands
114. Norway
115. Oman
116. Palau
117. Panama
118. Paraguay
119. Peru
120. Philippines
121. Poland
122. Portugal
123. Puerto Rico
124. Qatar
125. Réunion
126. Romania
127. Russia
128. Rwanda
129. Saint Barthélemy (French West Indies)
130. Saint Martin (French West Indies)
131. Saint Pierre and Miquelon (France)
132. San Marino
133. Sao Tome e Principe
134. Saudi Arabia
135. Senegal
136. Serbia and Montenegro
137. Sierra Leone
138. Slovakia
139. Slovenia
140. Somalia
141. Spain
142. Sudan
143. Svalbard (Norway)
144. Sweden
145. Switzerland
146. Syria
147. Taiwan
148. Tajikistan
149. Togo
150. Tunisia
151. Turkey
152. Turkmenistan
153. Ukraine
154. United Arab Emirates
155. United States
156. Uruguay
157. Uzbekistan
158. Vanuatu
159. Venezuela
160. Vietnam
161. Wake Island (USA)
162. Wallis and Futuna Islands (France)
163. West Bank
164. Western Sahara
165. Yemen

Let us know when you want to come back to the proper side of the road
2/20/2011 10:15:09 AM EDT
[#22]



Quoted:

...I think it was to do with Napoleon putting his mark on the places he passed through.



So you're saying that the Yanks have a secret hankering to be cheese-eating surrender monkeys?



 
2/20/2011 10:18:16 AM EDT
[#23]
Quoted:

Quoted:
...I think it was to do with Napoleon putting his mark on the places he passed through.

So you're saying that the Yanks have a secret hankering to be cheese-eating surrender monkeys?
 


Well let's face it, the French did save their ass from the evil Imperialist Redcoats...........
2/20/2011 11:14:21 AM EDT
[#24]

You guys are great.  Although I do like some of your older TV stuff.  Monty Python was a riot.