Posted: 3/20/2010 3:02:44 AM EDT
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I know that I'm opening up a can of worms here potentially... BUT.... ..my view of them as a 1-issue, 'no-hope-so-why-bother' party has been moderately changed this week after reading through their policies document which a mate emailed me. I am generally skeptical about these sorts of things, but I did have a look (ready to shoot them down)..To be fair though, they did have a bit more to say than just on the EU issue and much of that I thought was quite sensible -including attitude towards countryside, criminal justice and public sector size/ progressive liberal agenda (they give a great example of the in problem as they see it where the head of equality and diversity at the Derby Fire and Rescue Service is paid twice as much as a qualified fireman..  ). Not keen on every last thing, but on balance most of it was pretty straight-talking and mirrored many of the views I here everyday (and from a few here too). I know we could go over the whole 'why vote for a party that won't get in' debate (let's not!).. they are a million miles from power today. I am interested though in what the wider perception is of them as a '1-issue party', because my guess is that actually if they were/ have been successful in getting over this (and getting their policy agenda understood) then there are a fair number of people who might find them attractive. One thing I couldn't find was a policy towards shooting sports - anyone know? |
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Would be a wasted vote, if you want rid of Gordon and don't want a hung parliament there is only one way to go. Whoever wins they need a clear majority and mandate from the public on rebuilding the economy. Depressing though it may be, the man may be right. Perhaps they could be persuaded to replace 'call me Dave' Cameron with Daniel Hannan...... |
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Quoted: I know we could go over the whole 'why vote for a party that won't get in' debate (let's not!).. they are a million miles from power today. ... as I said  What I am interested in is what the general perception is i.e. have they been in any way successful in getting the message across that they do not wish to be '1-issue' party.. clearly in my case they had not. If on the other hand they have started to move away from this perception, then it may be they will start to gain more significant support...
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errr.. Badger, you been at the beer for breakfast ??? Let me be clear - The BNP can rot in hell as far as I'm concerned.... As can Islam4UK and any other party or group that has an agenda for prejudice in that way! However, as far as I understand UKIP have nothing in common with the BNP in any way; other than stating that there needs to be an open and 'grown up' discussion around immigration/ population size and probably accept that as an island there must be a physical limit to the number of people we can support and any point in time. This is also included as an extension of their policies towards Europe and free movement of labour etc... It is underpinned by a belief in an alternative socio-economic model for the UK, not (I really sincerely hope) in any way motivated by notions of race (and to be fair they do seem to have ethnic groups represented as members and MEPs too). It seems that to the extent that the have a position around the social problems that can arise from multi-culturism (and the social problems of ghettoization, resulting from the lack of integration between socio-economic/ cultural groups within a countries borders) as opposed to the (welcome in my view) enrichment of society by multi-ethnicity (and it is precisely the diversity of ethnic groups which is what the BNP are against), then I think that's a good thing.. it needs to be discussed without the sense that its politically 'too sensitive' to talk about. |
| i have never voted for any of the main political partys and i havnt seen anything to make me do so, i walked out a polling station without voting once cause thats all that was on offer! if labour gets back in at least they will have to eat the giant shit sandwich they have made. |
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Quoted: i have never voted for any of the main political partys and i havnt seen anything to make me do so, i walked out a polling station without voting once cause thats all that was on offer! if labour gets back in at least they WE will have to eat the giant shit sandwich they have made. Small correction... |
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Quoted: i have never voted for any of the main political partys and i havnt seen anything to make me do so, i walked out a polling station without voting once cause thats all that was on offer! if labour gets back in at least they will have to eat the giant shit sandwich they have made. My predictions for chaos following return of Labour or hung parliament... 1. Darling is replaced by Balls within 2 weeks (for hung parliament, also assume libs in charge of transport, green policy, culture, media and sport). 2. Any notion of prudence will be out the window.. Unite will be calling the shots, expect disruption followed by capitulation in the best style of the French (its not as if there isn't form here!) 3. Sovereign credit rating gets trashed, .gov is unable to borrow at reasonable rates to service ever increasing debt levels. 4. The country goes broke. European project is plunged further into the sh*t storm (an upside there at least ;-)) with other PIGS in similar situation. 5. The IMF is called in to provide bailout. 6. .gov falls, fresh election, Tories get in with strong mandate to effect change. 7. See 1979 onwards (with a bit more touchy-feeliness thrown in) |
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It would not surprise me if Gordon Brown declared that the combination of hung parliament, global financial meltdown, being at war / threat from terrorism amounted to a national emergency.
He could invoke emergency powers and stay in power until the emergency passed. For the good of the country of course. A nightmare scenario but it would not surprise me to see it happen. 
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..you have been hanging out on GD again haven't you fluffy 
