[ARCHIVED THREAD] - New DPM (Page 1 of 2)
Posted: 12/20/2009 4:35:04 AM EDT
How long before this is seen at Civ SR / PR 
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Hmmmmm, available from Drop Zone Supplies http://www.army-surplus.co.uk/militarygear/category/multicam-products.html |
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Hmmmmm, available from Drop Zone Supplies http://www.army-surplus.co.uk/militarygear/category/multicam-products.html That's different. That's original Multicam which is what the new MTP is derived from.
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Quoted: Yeah but it's almost the same Quoted: Hmmmmm, available from Drop Zone Supplies http://www.army-surplus.co.uk/militarygear/category/multicam-products.html That's different. That's original Multicam which is what the new MTP is derived from.  |
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Hmmmmm, available from Drop Zone Supplies http://www.army-surplus.co.uk/militarygear/category/multicam-products.html That's different. That's original Multicam which is what the new MTP is derived from.
In the same way a Jager AR15 is almost the same as a Bradley Arms one. 
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Quoted: Seems to me they are trying to get one camo pattern which works well in two totally different terrains - woodland and desert. And the result appears to me not to blend in with either ! Well why don't you ring up the MoD and tell them just that  Click on the thumbnails here, it's quite interesting http://www.multicampattern.com/gallery.html |
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Quoted: Don't talk like a twat Quoted: Quoted: Yeah but it's almost the same Quoted: Hmmmmm, available from Drop Zone Supplies http://www.army-surplus.co.uk/militarygear/category/multicam-products.html That's different. That's original Multicam which is what the new MTP is derived from. In the same way a Jager AR15 is almost the same as a Bradley Arms one.  |
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Hmmmmm, available from Drop Zone Supplies http://www.army-surplus.co.uk/militarygear/category/multicam-products.html That's different. That's original Multicam which is what the new MTP is derived from.
In the same way a Jager AR15 is almost the same as a Bradley Arms one.
The multicam thumbnails are quite impressive. But then again, with the right lighting its easy to make a photo look just the way you want it. When it comes to European woodland, DPM is hard to beat. Funnily enough, in Children of men, set in UK of the future, they showed the British Army wearing a pattern not unlike this new one. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Don't talk like a twat Quoted: Quoted: Yeah but it's almost the same Quoted: Hmmmmm, available from Drop Zone Supplies http://www.army-surplus.co.uk/militarygear/category/multicam-products.html That's different. That's original Multicam which is what the new MTP is derived from. In the same way a Jager AR15 is almost the same as a Bradley Arms one. The multicam thumbnails are quite impressive. But then again, with the right lighting its easy to make a photo look just the way you want it. When it comes to European woodland, DPM is hard to beat. Why don't you email that nice Mr Ainsworth and tell him just that |
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The multicam thumbnails are quite impressive. But then again, with the right lighting its easy to make a photo look just the way you want it. When it comes to European woodland, DPM is hard to beat. [/quote] the point is they ain't fighting in Europe like the man says in the bbc video not perfect but ok for all. I worked on the STANOC team in 2000 they were looking at new cam then but events overtook the project. I'm glad things are moving in the right direction again I wouldn't want to be in the green zone dressed for Sennelaager. this isn't cost cutting it's life saving the same reason the US army is looking for new cam patterns as the all singing and dancing ACU doesn't work (that's the one they got instead of multicam) want to guess what they are looking at now? US Army Link |
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Hmmm, I need a new cammo jacket my 95 rip stop has seen better days.
I like the look of this any one got one? Andy. |
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"The kit is to be produced by a Northern Irish company, but will be made in China." If they were made in the UK I can see that they'd be more expensive. But the money would stay in the UK economy, so we wouldn't have to pay unemployment benefits to the factory workers that would have made the kit now it's going to be made in China... |
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Seems to me they are trying to get one camo pattern which works well in two totally different terrains - woodland and desert. And the result appears to me not to blend in with either ! Why did you pick a Jerry that gets offed as your avatar? Why do you ask ? And its a big assumption that because he was wearing a German uniform, that he was a German - by that stage of the war, Germany had recruited a lot of foreign troops. Even American and British.
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Depends. When are you issued it?
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Depends. When are you issued it? Not waterproof enough
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Seems to me they are trying to get one camo pattern which works well in two totally different terrains - woodland and desert. And the result appears to me not to blend in with either ! Why did you pick a Jerry that gets offed as your avatar? Why do you ask ? And its a big assumption that because he was wearing a German uniform, that he was a German - by that stage of the war, Germany had recruited a lot of foreign troops. Even American and British.
I have read of the attempts to recruit British personnel from within German PoW camps, I think that a few did in fact sign up, but do you know if any of them actually went into action on the Western Front? |
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Seems to me they are trying to get one camo pattern which works well in two totally different terrains - woodland and desert. And the result appears to me not to blend in with either ! Why did you pick a Jerry that gets offed as your avatar? Why do you ask ? And its a big assumption that because he was wearing a German uniform, that he was a German - by that stage of the war, Germany had recruited a lot of foreign troops. Even American and British.
I have read of the attempts to recruit British personnel from within German PoW camps, I think that a few did in fact sign up, but do you know if any of them actually went into action on the Western Front? Its an interesting story and unfortunately a lot of it has been covered up. There were two main SS divisions created for allied pows to join - the Britisher Frei Korp and the Eagle Korp ( British and American ) Both Governments covered up the story for some time after the war. The US government apparently went to greater lengths to cover it up. They were used for propaganda purposes - much was made of the union flag and the US flags on the SS uniform. It is rumoured that several were killed by allied forces in action after D-Day but ordered to keep quiet about it for morale purposes etc. Again, rumour has it some were captured and summarily executed for treason. Also, as they ran out of adult troops in the very last days of the war, the various Frei Korps were among the last adult troops to be found in the defense of Government buildings in Berlin. A few came forward and claimed that they only joined in order to pretend they were going to fight, and get a bit closer to friendly forces so that they could get back to their own side. Difficult to prove one way or another really. What has been well documented is that the SS set up several divisions recruiting from EVERY country they occupied. And their use in combat ( often as cannon fodder / expendable ) |
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Seems to me they are trying to get one camo pattern which works well in two totally different terrains - woodland and desert. And the result appears to me not to blend in with either ! Why did you pick a Jerry that gets offed as your avatar? Why do you ask ? And its a big assumption that because he was wearing a German uniform, that he was a German - by that stage of the war, Germany had recruited a lot of foreign troops. Even American and British.
I have read of the attempts to recruit British personnel from within German PoW camps, I think that a few did in fact sign up, but do you know if any of them actually went into action on the Western Front? Its an interesting story and unfortunately a lot of it has been covered up. There were two main SS divisions created for allied pows to join - the Britisher Frei Korp and the Eagle Korp ( British and American ) Both Governments covered up the story for some time after the war. The US government apparently went to greater lengths to cover it up. They were used for propaganda purposes - much was made of the union flag and the US flags on the SS uniform. It is rumoured that several were killed by allied forces in action after D-Day but ordered to keep quiet about it for morale purposes etc. Again, rumour has it some were captured and summarily executed for treason. Also, as they ran out of adult troops in the very last days of the war, the various Frei Korps were among the last adult troops to be found in the defense of Government buildings in Berlin. A few came forward and claimed that they only joined in order to pretend they were going to fight, and get a bit closer to friendly forces so that they could get back to their own side. Difficult to prove one way or another really. What has been well documented is that the SS set up several divisions recruiting from EVERY country they occupied. And their use in combat ( often as cannon fodder / expendable ) Thanks for that. I am interested in PoW history because of a distant family connection. A great uncle (I think that's the relationship, he was my maternal Grandfather's brother) was a PoW in Groningen, Netherlands during WW1. He was a soldier in, I believe, the Northumberland Fusiliers or Durham Light Infantry. I never met him, I just remember an old formal photo of a group of soldiers and pair of ornamental clogs he made in the camp painted with windmills etc and dated 1917 that my grandfather had. I don't know what happened to them, they would be of historical interest now. There was a rather poignant obituary in a local newspaper up here a couple of years ago about a German PoW who was put to work on a farm near Fraserburgh. A conscripted farm worker, he assimilated easily to the life and integrated into the farming community. At the end of the war he returned to Germany, to find that his family had been killed and much of what he knew had been destroyed. He somehow made it back to Fraserburgh, settled back into farm work and died peacefully among his former enemies. We are all people, at the end of the day. |
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Santa brought me one of these. The leaf stalking smock at the bottom of the page.
http://www.countrycoversshop.co.uk/acatalog/Waterproof_and_non_waterproof_coats.html |
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Santa brought me this, given up cammo, figure 11's don't shoot back
http://www.mandmdirect.com/products-5.11-Tactical-Series-Mens-3-In-1-Parka-Dark-Navy_UF2.htm |
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Santa brought me this, given up cammo, figure 11's don't shoot back
http://www.mandmdirect.com/products-5.11-Tactical-Series-Mens-3-In-1-Parka-Dark-Navy_UF2.htm I bought one of those a few weeks back, but I see the price has come down
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Santa brought me this, given up cammo, figure 11's don't shoot back
http://www.mandmdirect.com/products-5.11-Tactical-Series-Mens-3-In-1-Parka-Dark-Navy_UF2.htm I bought one of those a few weeks back, but I see the price has come down b'stards it's dropped by a tenner since last Monday (when I ordered mine), but still cheaper than a Helly Hansen walking jacket and it comes with a fleece |
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Hmmm, I need a new cammo jacket my 95 rip stop has seen better days. I like the look of this any one got one? Andy. Andy , your really going to blend in the middle of London/Birmingham/Liverpool
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