[ARCHIVED THREAD] - New toy.... (Page 1 of 2)
Posted: 10/25/2007 9:12:54 AM EDT
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... just arrived from Hong Kong.... For those that went to the HRA Nationals you may have spotted a rather bright Green dot dancing across the night sky?  Mousegunner-UK managed to snag one from ebay and I followed suit..... Extremely bright and easily visible ove the 1km mark (from my window onto the far wood)...  Comes with a push button tail switch / toggle and a wired one, battery (CR123) included and a picatinny weapons mount that is very sturdy.... Delivered within 4 days for a total of £34.19   |
Nice looking gun!! What is the sight on top? Where did you get it and how much was it?   Want one now...... |
Good to know thanks I have a similar laser (35mw) and I've always been careful with it (never shine it through a window etc cause of reflection. Even these cheapo laser keyrings the kids can buy on holiday can cause mayhem. A mate of mine is an eye doctor at the Manchester Eye Hospital and she has said there has been an increase in the number of kids with damaged eyesight as a result of these things. She was saying that they still don't kniow what the ling term effects might be.  My laser does looks fantastic on a foggy night though...... Propper Rainbow Six
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The ling term effects eh? That said, I playes with Greenie's laser, and it really is f**king impressive  Almost as impressive as the M3 w/supercharger & 420hp  That I really do want |
One of our cabs got hit by a laser, on a job over Leicester, a couple of months back. Not a pleasant experience for those on-board, when they landed they had extensive eye examinations, which took a cab off line (no crew)  You might want to look here........ Feedback for the Hong Kong website |
Do that in the USA (www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,151341,00.html) and it's orange jump suit time and a trip to Cuba :-) |
One of our cabs got hit by a laser, on a job over Leicester, a couple of months back. Not a pleasant experience for those on-board, when they landed they had extensive eye examinations, which took a cab off line (no crew) You might want to look here........ Feedback for the Hong Kong website Our Helicopter gets it all the time, powerful torches mostly, sometimes lasers. Often, we get the offenders prosecuted for 'endangering an aircraft'. |
We wished we could go out again, with the hard points loaded ! |
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I used to work on a trails and development team in the army so a few tips: 1 never point a laser at anyone! 2 never ever use a laser when people are using optical equipment!! 3 if you don't know if people are using optics don't fire the laser! 4 ensure you have a back drop! the problem is it is likely that it wouldnt be you the firer that is effected by the laser. and believe it or not green lasers (gallium arsenide) excuse the spelling, tend to be worse than red Remember powerfull lasers are treated as weapon systems in the forces and laser eye damage is permanent I have worked with people who have permanent blind spots and wish they had respected the equipment. Nick |
OK, where does it say you can't in CSR? Or is this one of those other obscure NRA Bible rules dreament up to restrict something else, I know you are pretty good at quoting rules by chapter and verse so go ahead killjoy. Remember it's CSR not GRCF or GRSB. I suppose if YOU don't like it you'll get the rules changed anyway. 
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Correct. Do you have a laser on your L85 then? No..... The End. 
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I don't shoot CSR with and L85 do you? Seems like you want to make the rules up yourself, are you the Lord and Master of CSR? |
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You mean like this..... USE OF LASERS ON RANGES: 28. Laser operators. All personnel responsible for the firing of a laser are to receive appropriate laser safety training. When given during a particular weapon or equipment training course, the training is to be co-ordinated by the single-Service sponsoring the introduction of the equipment. The documentation for the introduction into service of any laser equipment should include the procedures for training the user. Such procedures must be in place before MLSC approval is given. Jan 05 Chap 4 Page 7 |
Is this for Military and MOD owned/procured lasers, not 99p toys? Which pulblication have you quoted, can't find anything in Pamphlet 21 or Bisley Bible that refers to toys. |
Civilian kit, Mil ranges! Minimum requirement is for someone (RCO / Booking Club Sec) to sign off on the H&S aspects. (Not going to happen!) Up to possible full clearance from the MLSC (Not going to happen). |
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If a laser sight is attached to a firearm then surely it is no more dangerous than a firearm itself. Rule 1 for any firearm owner, Don't point a Firearm at anything you are not prepared to destroy. There is insufficient or no guidance on the use of low powered lasers on small arms firing ranges either civilian or military, and certainly nothing in Pamphlet 21 that I can find. If you want to go the whole hog, there are clauses in Service Publications that require all privately owned firearms to have certificates of serviceability before they are used on any MOD owned Ranges. Bottom line Don’t point a laser or a firearm at anything you are not prepared to destroy. |
1) You are not looking hard enough, there is JSP 390. 2) Did you miss the whole issue about reflection / refraction of lasers? Similar to the hazard posed by a bullet ricochet, rather than direct pointing. 3) The lasers which have been discussed on this board are not low powered. |
From JSP 392 Radiation Safety Handbook "SCOPE 1. Information on laser hazards and mandatory instructions on laser safety for UK Armed Services and MOD establishments is contained in JSP 390 Military Laser Safety. Does not apply to the General Public STATUTORY REQUIREMENTS 2. There is currently no legislation specific to working with laser radiation this bit is applicable to the General Public, although the general requirements of the Health and Safety at Work etc Act 1974 and the Management of Health and Safety at Work Regulations 1999 apply directly." I'm not saying that we don't need to be careful and a risk assessment might be required but neither of us are experts. These toy lasers can be purchased by anyone and do pose a risk if used irresponsibly, on a Range is probably the place where they will be under the most strict control. |
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After initially considering it last week, I decided against it for one simple reason......I'm in the process of clearing out all my unwanted stuff and thought that after the novelty of it wears off after a couple of days, it'd end up in the drawer just like all the other "good idea" gear that I've accumulated over the years. Therefore I've refrained from handing over my dosh for another laser, and instead spent it on some EBC brakes and discs for the motor
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I've got to admit i'm the same, I've got ton's of gadgets and stuff here, they seem a great idea at the time but end up gathering dust somewhere. Although, this laser thing will keep me amused for some time 
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Most people I've seen using a laser for competition usually just scare the shit out of themselves as they show how much you are wobbling, and actually slow you down. If you honestly think that dot is going to stay rock steady when the human variable is added you are going to be disappointed. Only good use I've seen for them is close range CQB on a semi-auto carbine, some shoulder & from the hip stuff. Also in conjunction with a scope on a rifle to help with rangefinding. And I luuuurve gadgets, especially sighting systems
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You need to post your cat's picture on the Caturday thread www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=511549&page=1 |
The Surefire batteries I'm using seem to last fine.... had the same battery for over a week (about 40 minutes burn time)... What batteries are you using as some of the unbranded ones can be really naff...
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