Posted: 6/13/2007 12:06:24 AM EDT
I have taken this from the NRA summer journal  "a new paragraph 230 has been added to the Bisley bible this year "defining normal dress" on the ranges. this has been added to the NRA rules to avoid adverse publicity such as has been levelled at the NRA in the past due to shooters walking around camp in full military dpm uniform, as if they were military personnel on duty. where weather conditions warrant it such items as waterproof dpm jacket and trousers are acceptable but full uniform should be worn only by military pesonnel who are on duty." I always found the weight watchers navy seals on short siberia to be a little worrying anyway 
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This is a request from the Army, during the Civilian Service Rifle Competitions, it was difficult for the SASC (Army Range Staff) to tell those Officially Serving from the wannabes. No-one needs to wear full DPM to shoot PR or Civ SR, unless you happen to be serving and on duty. There are plenty of other clothing options available. |
having recently retired and hung up my DPM I can assure you it doesn't make you shoot any better although it is very kind to the fuller figure and doesn't show spilled food!! perhaps those wannabes who feel the need to play soldier could save their kit for their airsoft days  in short if your target doesn't shoot back you don't need to hide from it!!!!!! |
Believe it or not, but you never see me wearing DPM at any shoots in the UK I did however wear it in the US as we were required to to by the authoritays. Usually I wear a pair of beige or green BDU trousers and a green Falkland Islands jacket, or my Blueflage dyed Soldier 95 jacket. Besides the US isn't as PC as Blighty so it's not an issue, but I never wear it over here ETA: I do sometimes wear DPM Goretex trousers, but only when the weather's crap |
Is this so the SASC know who they can legitimately scream at without getting told to 'piss off'  ? |
...and do you wear camo, or cuddly shorts?? |
I did turn up one afternoon in Magnum boots, flektarn combat pants and parka, (and the AR of course)… it certainly got a 'reaction' from the chief range Nazi  … so I don't wear the parka now. 
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I'm sure he would see it that way too...
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| On a slightly more serious note, is it literally just DPM?, or other types of military/paramilitary camouflage pattern clothing. I know a lot of clubs have specific rules on this now. It is however unfortunate that military type clothing is by virtue of it's durability and weatherproofing often most suitable, and cheapest for outdoor shooting activities. I bought a surplus DPM jacket because it's good for walking the dog and bought an Arktis Sniper Smock, Rucksack and Hump because they were a damn good price (and haven't used any of it!), but usually shoot in casual or sports type clothing. What about the camo type hunting suits, non-military patterns, that civilian stalkers wear, are they banned too? |
I would think that any clothing that makes you look like you are serving military would be a cause for concern... As you pointed out earlier, if some CSM sees what he thinks is one of his men dressed like a "shower of sh*t" and acts appropriately only to find it is civilian and is told to "piss off" etc etc .... That would probably mean that wooly pullies worn with olive lightweights would be off the menu... as would olive lightweights, high lace issue boots worn with a regimental looking teeshirt... |
T-shirt, shorts and flip flops it is then..
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from the way I read it, it is a problem if you are wearing full rig and trying to look like the real thing. so you can wear your jackets and trousers but you just can't wear them at the same time you have to mix it with non military clothing. if you need hard wearing kit thats fit for shooting has that tactical look and will not upset the range staff take a look at the 5:11 range. |
That's exactly right and well said BTW. My opinion is, that's the rules and if you don't like it, then f**k off, there's plenty of other places to shoot. I've also noticed that some of the worst cases are the saddo's who do all their shooting on Short Siberia (with cranky old wooden guns and muzzle loaders) dressed in full camo kit, and even forage caps  , and some of the biggest complainers are people who aren't even NRA members  But you also get those saturday and sunday types who think they have a God given right to wear their "uniform" at all times and even turn up with their "rank" on it when they're not even on duty......... |
Or wear something like Flektarn to avoid any misunderstanding |
So my dress uniform and sword are out as well then............../
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So does that mean that you'll be shooting the Monday CSR comps with your left trouser leg rolled up, black pinny on and you right nipple exposed 
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In case there are any doubts I am happy to declare to the World at large that I am not, and never have been, a Mason. 
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So the full set of ACU's you bought in the US, where are you gonna wear them????............................................................ In the bedroom?????????
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Sounds kinky!… has he got a noddy suit too?  |
Aah, but you know well enough that I didn't buy a full set of ACU. No more so than anyone else
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It's a cult, That's cult
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I didn't know you are dyslexic...
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I wear DPM trousers cos they are comfy, practical and cost me a tenner, so when I'm kneeling or prone I'm not bothered about getting them dirty. I wear a ripstop DPM jacket cos it cost me twenty quid, and its ripstop, which means it I wont rip when going prone from standing. It's good because I don't have to wear my Deerhunder Montana Jacket which cost £140 or my red and grey berghaus which cost £200, neither of which are rip stop. Function over form, the army use it because it is good stuff. Most shooters on the circuit that I've met wear it for that very reason. Its not about wannabes or airsoft/paintball types playing at army. Give me the same gear in navy blue, grey or any other colour that I'd normally wear and I'd still use it. I respect the point about the SASC's not knowing who the real army types are though. It's got to be a bit confusing if you are 200m+ away. I'v ordered my new kit already: http://www.hscripts.com/freeimages/icons/clipart/soldier/soldier-clipart-picture6.gif |
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Slightly off topic. Over here at the ranges we wear everyday jeans 'n' stuff for the shoots. As military kit of any kind is shunned upon by the civdiv. There have been about 10 occasions in the last 15 years since I left the Army where I have worn my uniform for the German army reserve activity days, if I hadn't I wouldn't have been allowed to participate as uniform was mandatory. One of which was a Military skills competition run by the US Army. My DPM (home retention kit), is packed up in Camo kit is looked down at by the Hunters over here, which means that there are loads of hard wearing clothes in green to choose from. Real tree stuff has a hard time over here due to the hunting traditions. Tony |