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3/13/2007 1:44:57 PM EDT
Don't know what happened to this thread but for the record the 'owners' of the 1911 found it in their late father's Army kit. They didn't know he had it. They are not gun people and have no interest in it. It does not relate to a family member. They do have the good sense to know they shouldn't keep it around and voluntarily, of their own accord, with no inducement, co-ercion, threat or other oppressive action from local Plod (who were of course totally unaware of the existence of the thing until they walked into reception and scared the s^*t out of the receptionist with it. Not as much as the old lady with the loaded and fully functional MP40 in the mid 80's but that's another story), surrendered it.

I merely recognised it as an interesting piece of history worthy of preservation and sharing with others rather than recycling into a dustbin.
3/13/2007 2:06:36 PM EDT
[#1]

Quoted:
Don't know what happened to this thread but for the record the 'owners' of the 1911 found it in their late father's Army kit. They didn't know he had it. They are not gun people and have no interest in it. It does not relate to a family member. They do have the good sense to know they shouldn't keep it around and voluntarily, of their own accord, with no inducement, co-ercion, threat or other oppressive action from local Plod (who were of course totally unaware of the existence of the thing until they walked into reception and scared the s^*t out of the receptionist with it. Not as much as the old lady with the loaded and fully functional MP40 in the mid 80's but that's another story), surrendered it.

I merely recognised it as an interesting piece of history worthy of preservation and sharing with others rather than recycling into a dustbin.


I'd be interested to see where it ends up !

Steve
3/14/2007 1:58:49 AM EDT
[#2]
It will be either the London Scottish Regimental Museum at Horseferry Road, London(as it was clearly presented to one of their chaps) or Shrivenham(who just want it!)
3/14/2007 2:35:37 AM EDT
[#3]
One of the posts must've had a bad thingy or whatever....
It's happened before and even locked the board up once.
Your original post now lives in the Trash forum

Why not post the pics up again.
It's a good one to follow

Mark
3/14/2007 3:27:51 AM EDT
[#4]
And to think, just after WWI they sent carts door to door selling pistols and rifles as war souvenirs…

How times change…

ANdy
3/14/2007 9:56:19 AM EDT
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And to think, just after WWI they sent carts door to door selling pistols and rifles as war souvenirs…

How times change…

ANdy


But we're all safer now....

I agree that I would like to see where the .45 ends up...... Do they not have to remove parts for display?  Someone mentioned S7..... but not sur in context to what?  
3/14/2007 12:38:26 PM EDT
[#6]
Section 7 is reserved of Handguns etc that would generally be prohibited, but for certain historic or other reasons were exempted from general ownership.

Section 7.1 Handguns that can be held at home but are not permitted to be fired.

Section 7.3 Similar to above, but if you wish to acquire permission to shoot these firearms, they must be kept in a secure club, where they must remain

Section 7.4 Firearms of historic interest

Section 6. Trophies of war acquired before 1 Jan 1946

I am touch with the London Scottish and it is likely the pistol will go there. I am researching the individual and circumstances and will post a full result when known.







3/14/2007 12:40:23 PM EDT
[#7]
What's that in the last pic?
3/14/2007 2:34:52 PM EDT
[#8]

Quoted:

Quoted:
And to think, just after WWI they sent carts door to door selling pistols and rifles as war souvenirs…

How times change…

ANdy


But we're all safer now....




Indeed we are!

Would you want a return to that terrible days at the turn of the century when after the almost unheard of crime of an armed robbery on a London bank, the Police chasing the villans were able to stop passing members of the public and borrow their revolvers to shoot at the armed ruffians?

Oh the horror!

ANdy
3/14/2007 4:02:46 PM EDT
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What's that in the last pic?


Tobacco pouch used for rolling a stogie once the killin' was done.....
3/14/2007 4:04:28 PM EDT
[#10]
box of ammo?


ETA: I see the 'optical department' markings - its a red dot sight
3/14/2007 4:05:33 PM EDT
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Quoted:

Would you want a return to that terrible days at the turn of the century when after the almost unheard of crime of an armed robbery on a London bank, the Police chasing the villans were able to stop passing members of the public and borrow their revolvers to shoot at the armed ruffians?


You mean in 2000
3/15/2007 11:23:20 AM EDT
[#12]

Quoted:
box of ammo?


ETA: I see the 'optical department' markings - its a red dot sight


Small pair of Bino's?
3/15/2007 12:02:22 PM EDT
[#13]
Quoted:
box of ammo?

We have a winner

Only one fired (no not by me, I wouldn't have been able to stop at one). I haven't cleaned anything up as we wanted to preserve it but I think it has a Remington stamp.
3/15/2007 12:27:41 PM EDT
[#14]

Quoted:
Quoted:
box of ammo?

We have a winner

Only one fired (no not by me, I wouldn't have been able to stop at one). I haven't cleaned anything up as we wanted to preserve it but I think it has a Remington stamp.


woo-hoo, are you going to post me my prize (the 1911 of course)?
3/15/2007 2:08:32 PM EDT
[#15]



Very nice....

I used to have a Gov Com 1911 with Nickel plate in the good old days....
A pleasure to shoot

Cheers
Taffy


It's a shame our laws don't allow anyone to keep and use it (not inc sec7)....did they consider de-activation so they could keep it...?

3/15/2007 3:24:27 PM EDT
[#16]

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I used to have a Gov Com 1911 with Nickel plate in the good old days....
A pleasure to shoot



So did I



3/15/2007 3:25:01 PM EDT
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Quoted:

Quoted:
I used to have a Gov Com 1911 with Nickel plate in the good old days....
A pleasure to shoot



So did I
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Oh well, life goes on...
3/15/2007 4:53:29 PM EDT
[#18]
I used to have a 1943 Colt 1911A1...
3/16/2007 12:14:35 AM EDT
[#19]

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...... Do they not have to remove parts for display?  Someone mentioned S7..... but not sur in context to what?  


They have to be deactivated if they're on general display. A guy I went to see last week does a lot of de-act work for mil. especially museums and the war trophies that are now being brought back from foreign parts, these are collected and shipped home for work before being handed back to the 'owner', meant to stop attempts at smuggling or something.
Museums can have an exemption but I've been led to believe it's MoD or Army policy. I've seen some of their own attempts at doing the job - several needed new receivers just to get them through de-act proof, they were so badly welded that they had to be destroyed to separate parts so work could be done on them.


Matt

3/16/2007 12:56:18 AM EDT
[#20]

Quoted:

I used to have a Gov Com 1911 with Nickel plate in the good old days....
A pleasure to shoot

Cheers
Taffy



whats a Gov Com 1911?
a commander (combat or otherwise) is not a gov model. All commanders are 1911A1, not 1911. And as for nickel/chrome finishes - PIMPGUN

s'funny, I would not have a chrome 45, but a chrome (or pink) AR does appeal to me....
3/16/2007 7:05:59 AM EDT
[#21]
OOOhhh... I wondered where my thread went
3/17/2007 1:26:05 PM EDT
[#22]
Received form the Regimental Archivist today, the entry in the Roll of Honour:

SPEAR, Norman Victor, M.M., 2nd Lieut., R.F.C., yst.s.of William Spear, of 25, Woodstock Road Golder's Green, London, N.W., F.R.G.S., by his late wife, Katherine Isabel, dan. of Peter William Forbes; b. Victoriahavn. Ofoten, Norway, 28 Dec. 1887; educ. Aske's Haberdashers' School, Hampstead, N.W.; was employed in the office of the Secretary of the Institution of Civil Engineers; joined the London Scottish Regt. 19th Feb. 1912; served with the Expeditionary Force in France and Flanders from Nov. 1914: was, as Sergeant of Scouts, severley wounded at Loos 25 Sept. 1915; on recovery, after a period of training at Oxford, was gazetted 2nd Lieut. in the R.F.C. 25 Sept. 1916; became attached, as Instructor, to the 50th Training Squadron, and was killed at Norfolk in a flying accident 29 Aug. 1917. Buried at Narborough, co. Norfolk. He was awarded the Military Medal [London Gazette, 27 Oct. 1916], for bravery in the field and devotion to duty; unm.

Looks like the Colt may have been a 27th Birthday present.

3/17/2007 3:32:53 PM EDT
[#23]
I think that it should be donated to Mark so that he can make more of these.

Tony
3/18/2007 12:47:29 AM EDT
[#24]
Hmmm, if my wife and I decide to move to the Czech Republic sometime in the future I know what will be on my shopping list
3/18/2007 4:28:43 AM EDT
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I think that it should be donated to Mark so that he can make more of these.

Tony


Bloody hell!!!

I feel a belt fed AR15 is necessary! in Straight pull of course
3/18/2007 7:46:06 AM EDT
[#26]

Quoted:

Quoted:
I think that it should be donated to Mark so that he can make more of these.

Tony


Bloody hell!!!

I feel a belt fed AR15 is necessary! in Straight pull of course


Not quite what you meant, but f**kin' close enough for me.
Best-fed AR10 at the Pattern Room, Nottingham