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Posted: 3/6/2006 2:02:12 AM EDT
Next question - Acogs look really nice, but the price even 2nd hand is a bit steep. Could anyone recommend a more modest fairly small fixed magnification scope (around 4x) thats readily available in the UK ?
Link Posted: 3/6/2006 2:09:25 AM EDT
You get what you pay for!

Don't get a cheap scope, save up and buy once!
Link Posted: 3/6/2006 2:10:26 AM EDT
Link Posted: 3/6/2006 2:35:22 AM EDT

Originally Posted By vito113:
A SIMMONS 1.5-5 X 20 is small, not too pricey and works well..

www.nsra.co.uk/Shop/Shop_html/Telescope-sights.htm




There are better optics, but I like em. I've got two of these, one on my .357 Marlin, the other on my LA30.

The last one cost me only £45 brand new in box off flebay
Link Posted: 3/6/2006 3:16:46 AM EDT
Link Posted: 3/6/2006 9:34:52 AM EDT

Originally Posted By ACR26:
You get what you pay for!

Don't get a cheap scope, save up and buy once!



Save up for that Acog, They are unbelievable.
Link Posted: 3/6/2006 9:45:15 AM EDT
Where can you get them from in this country?

Or more likly who will export them to us?

Matt
Link Posted: 3/6/2006 10:01:51 AM EDT

Originally Posted By UK_Matt:
Where can you get them from in this country?

Or more likly who will export them to us?

Matt



Ask those that have them (by IM) .... Streetfighter, ACR26 and Scope Eye spring to mind...

I'm looking for something with a little more magnification.....
Link Posted: 3/6/2006 11:20:57 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/6/2006 11:21:33 AM EDT by Pep]
I've got three, they are worth every penny

I tried cheap alternatives, but, believe me Acogs are excellent

If you are anywhere near Sennybridge this Saturday let me know and you can try mine on X range

Save the money you won't regret it

Link Posted: 3/6/2006 2:46:36 PM EDT
You guys are pissing me off. Brecon on my doorstep but my back condition preventing me from shooting right now.....(roll on April, latest date for opp)

I hope you guys have a great time Pep...it's a cracking range


I've not done any practical comp shooting and I have a very very cheap chinese knock off, of a original colt handle mounted scope. X4

@50 I can play join the dots and out to 300m I can hit pretty much anything.

For competition stuff you may require a small mortgage for a tidy scope but realy do you need to spend a fortune.

We'd all love to have a gucci scope but how much difference does it make....I'm sure the pro/loaded guys will advocate spending more on a scope than the rifle but I'm not in that position and I still get reasonable results with my happy shopper scope.

just my 2cents

Taffy the cheapskate
Link Posted: 3/6/2006 2:50:59 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Pep:
I've got three, they are worth every penny

I tried cheap alternatives, but, believe me Acogs are excellent

If you are anywhere near Sennybridge this Saturday let me know and you can try mine on X range

Save the money you won't regret it





Pep if you see an old guy there wearing a flat cap and using a small ladder to get into the pits...say Hi from Kieran/me (Pickwick Gun club)


He'll give you a play of his gear....He'll normaly have with him an old SMLE or a K98 with optional obscure rifles to boot.

Cheers

Taffy
Link Posted: 3/6/2006 3:34:43 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/6/2006 3:35:11 PM EDT by target-hunter]

Originally Posted By Taffy223:
I'm sure the pro/loaded guys will advocate spending more on a scope than the rifle but I'm not in that position and I still get reasonable results with my happy shopper scope.

just my 2cents

Taffy the cheapskate



I've got a cheapie Tasco on my practical/service rifle. The thinking was it would do for a while before I got a 'proper' scope. Well, it's been quite a while and no need to change it yet...

(But I have got an ACOG though.)
Link Posted: 3/6/2006 5:55:38 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/6/2006 5:56:56 PM EDT by Muddy]
Don't cheap out on optics, you'll never be happy and you'll just winding up spending money twice.

These are not cheap but I think it is the best thing going for military grade optics:
Look at the Specter DR:

elcan.phpinternet.com/www/SPECTER_0_0_Index.htm

I got to play with one at the SHOT Show last month and was so impressed I put a deposit down on the spot. They are going to be in very limited production until August but it essentially gives you an ACOG and an Aimpoint in one weapons sight with better glass and without the quirky plastic tube that tends to break on the ACOGS.
Link Posted: 3/6/2006 11:41:55 PM EDT
My alternative to the Simmons was the IOR 1.1-4x26 with illuminated CQB reticule which works out at around £450 or the 2-12x35 which was the one I'd prefer but thats more ££££ too.

I guess it all depends what you're going to use it for ?

Check out the optics forum here for more info on ACOGS/Eotech/Aimpoint etc.
Link Posted: 3/6/2006 11:48:15 PM EDT
Link Posted: 3/7/2006 12:08:20 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Muddy:
Don't cheap out on optics, you'll never be happy and you'll just winding up spending money twice.

These are not cheap but I think it is the best thing going for military grade optics:
Look at the Specter DR:

elcan.phpinternet.com/www/SPECTER_0_0_Index.htm

I got to play with one at the SHOT Show last month and was so impressed I put a deposit down on the spot. They are going to be in very limited production until August but it essentially gives you an ACOG and an Aimpoint in one weapons sight with better glass and without the quirky plastic tube that tends to break on the ACOGS.



Ooh nice ! , just had a l;ook at the website. Dare I ask how much ? ? ?
Link Posted: 3/7/2006 12:10:03 AM EDT

Originally Posted By vito113:

Originally Posted By steven_uk:
My alternative to the Simmons was the IOR 1.1-4x26 with illuminated CQB reticule which works out at around £450 or the 2-12x35 which was the one I'd prefer but thats more ££££ too.

I guess it all depends what you're going to use it for ?

Check out the optics forum here for more info on ACOGS/Eotech/Aimpoint etc.







Which is why I have the Simmons....

Who wants to lend me an ACOG for an extended 'review'
Link Posted: 3/7/2006 8:23:31 AM EDT

Originally Posted By steven_uk:

Originally Posted By Muddy:
Don't cheap out on optics, you'll never be happy and you'll just winding up spending money twice.

These are not cheap but I think it is the best thing going for military grade optics:
Look at the Specter DR:

elcan.phpinternet.com/www/SPECTER_0_0_Index.htm

I got to play with one at the SHOT Show last month and was so impressed I put a deposit down on the spot. They are going to be in very limited production until August but it essentially gives you an ACOG and an Aimpoint in one weapons sight with better glass and without the quirky plastic tube that tends to break on the ACOGS.



Ooh nice ! , just had a l;ook at the website. Dare I ask how much ? ? ?




Well, I think MSRP is $1600 and change, U.S. Dealer on less than 20 units is not too much less but with the exchange rate in your favor, it's hard to say.
Link Posted: 3/7/2006 8:41:12 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Muddy:

Originally Posted By steven_uk:

Originally Posted By Muddy:
Don't cheap out on optics, you'll never be happy and you'll just winding up spending money twice.

These are not cheap but I think it is the best thing going for military grade optics:
Look at the Specter DR:

elcan.phpinternet.com/www/SPECTER_0_0_Index.htm

I got to play with one at the SHOT Show last month and was so impressed I put a deposit down on the spot. They are going to be in very limited production until August but it essentially gives you an ACOG and an Aimpoint in one weapons sight with better glass and without the quirky plastic tube that tends to break on the ACOGS.



Ooh nice ! , just had a l;ook at the website. Dare I ask how much ? ? ?




Well, I think MSRP is $1600 and change, U.S. Dealer on less than 20 units is not too much less but with the exchange rate in your favor, it's hard to say.



but the taxmans not.
Link Posted: 3/7/2006 12:11:00 PM EDT

Originally Posted By UK_Matt:
Where can you get them from in this country?

Or more likly who will export them to us?

Matt



cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7223206941

Link Posted: 3/7/2006 12:29:04 PM EDT
Link Posted: 3/7/2006 12:56:01 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/8/2006 1:16:35 AM EDT by vito113]
Just found this

< IM the link to the 'interested parties'…pretty please… with a cherry on the top! >

James
Link Posted: 3/7/2006 3:04:24 PM EDT
ACOG alternative?

THERE IS NO ALTERNATIVE - ACCEPT NO SUBSTITUTES
Link Posted: 3/8/2006 1:08:09 AM EDT

Originally Posted By UKGuy:
Just found this
James



When will you guys learn not to advertise our 'friends' openly !!!!!!

If you keep doing this, then there will be no more 'friends'.

Link Posted: 3/8/2006 1:42:14 AM EDT
Sorry Me bad!!

James
Link Posted: 3/8/2006 2:29:25 AM EDT
They'll never learn

No matter how much you house train a stray dog, it'll still shit on the carpet and 2-3 weeks from now, you'll be giving out the exact same warnings as you did today

Mark
Link Posted: 3/8/2006 3:23:53 AM EDT
You dont complain whrn i shag your leg though Mark

James
Link Posted: 3/8/2006 9:57:26 AM EDT

Originally Posted By UKGuy:
You dont complain whrn i shag your leg though Mark

James



No,, I only complain when you spell correctly
Link Posted: 3/8/2006 9:58:09 AM EDT

The only alternative to an ACOG is 2 ACOG's
Link Posted: 3/8/2006 10:11:32 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/8/2006 10:12:29 AM EDT by vito113]
Link Posted: 3/8/2006 1:45:34 PM EDT
He's the human JDAM!
Link Posted: 3/9/2006 10:47:59 PM EDT

Originally Posted By vito113:
i2.tinypic.com/qzk6ef.jpg


ACOG's iz teh ghey……






I think the rest of his team was on the point last Saturday!
Link Posted: 3/10/2006 12:06:50 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/10/2006 1:07:41 AM EDT by steven_uk]
Looks like he ate the rest of his 'team'......fat b'stard

Which version of the ACOG is 'best' ?

Cheers
Steven
Link Posted: 3/12/2006 2:46:20 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Scope-eye:

Originally Posted By vito113:
i2.tinypic.com/qzk6ef.jpg


ACOG's iz teh ghey……






I think the rest of his team was on the point last Saturday!



B******s I told you I was a marine paratrooper!!

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