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Posted: 1/17/2006 9:39:19 AM EDT
I'm finally going to scope up my M4 - used for shooting at the decidly NRA-unfriendly figure targets out to 600yds, so mostly ETR and service rifle stuff.

Opinions please on wether to go for an ACOG (TA01NSN or TA31RCO), or a scope with a 'mil-dot type reticule' for hold over/under and windage.
I can see the scope giving me the ability to dial in the correct distances when the cof allows, but the ACOG is just so uber-tactical and it also has good glass.

Initially I'll be using a carry handle mount - is a flat top receiver that much of a better setup?

cheers,
SteveA
Link Posted: 1/17/2006 10:01:30 AM EDT
As is the Arfcom way.............................
Get both

The flat top is better in every aspect when it comes to scoping the AR. You can not get a decent cheek weld with a carry handle and scope.

Seriously though, the scope is a better option as the Acog's don't allow the precision, but on ETR they do just fine, all the way to 600 (for fun)

I won the Kemble ETR match a couple of years ago with an M4gery/Acog setup and it really is ideal for that kind of shooting, but where there are scoring rings the scope is better.

But, with quick release mounts, you really can have both
Link Posted: 1/17/2006 10:02:29 AM EDT

Originally Posted By limey1:
I'm finally going to scope up my M4 - used for shooting at the decidly NRA-unfriendly figure targets out to 600yds, so mostly ETR and service rifle stuff.

Opinions please on wether to go for an ACOG (TA01NSN or TA31RCO), or a scope with a 'mil-dot type reticule' for hold over/under and windage.
I can see the scope giving me the ability to dial in the correct distances when the cof allows, but the ACOG is just so uber-tactical and it also has good glass.

Initially I'll be using a carry handle mount - is a flat top receiver that much of a better setup?

cheers,
SteveA



Hi Steve

I have 2 TA01 NSN's both for CQB type shooting

I have one on my V22 for mini rifle type shooting (I know a waste!!)and the second on my Carbine AR15 which I use for ETR up to generally 300 metres/yards. They are superb and for this style of shooting and easily out perform the M1 leupolds they replaced. I have also shot the .223 up to 400 yards and hit the middle of the target so they are good. If you like aiming off and are a good judge of wind then these are for you the reticules are fantastic (From a posers point of view they also attract more attention than any other scope I have had or seen)

However if its accuracy and minute dial in you are after and need to go out to 500-600 yards then a traditional scope would be better. I am personally a Leupold fan however I have got a 10 power super sniper that cost a third of the price and shoots very, very well

I have also got a fixed Bushnell Elite 3200 (costs around £200-250) which is very good, has taget turrets etc.....................so you don't have to break the bank if you don't want to

Hope this helps

Stu

Link Posted: 1/17/2006 10:58:43 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/17/2006 10:58:58 AM EDT by limey1]
Thanks guys,
its starting to look like a scope then - nothing too big, maybe one of these
Link Posted: 1/17/2006 11:14:58 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/17/2006 11:23:36 AM EDT by vito113]
Link Posted: 1/17/2006 11:21:48 AM EDT

Originally Posted By limey1:
Thanks guys,
its starting to look like a scope then - nothing too big, maybe one of these



Seems like a good choice, although I'd personally prefer more magnification if I was going for something like that
Link Posted: 1/17/2006 12:14:14 PM EDT

Originally Posted By vito113:
Simmons 1.5 - 5 x 20 Nightview Compact will set you back about £100 if you don't need BDC.

ANdy



I've got two of these, one on my Marlin, the other on my .30 AR. I've used both up to 300 yards.
Bought my last one off Ebay for £45 BNIB.

There are better optics but I like'em.
Link Posted: 1/17/2006 12:38:35 PM EDT
Link Posted: 1/17/2006 2:38:07 PM EDT
Bad eyes, make my choice a good scope!

Anyone thinking about the new S & B CQB?

Would like to hear from anyone who has tried one!

x4 I know, but the optics are super fine!
Link Posted: 1/17/2006 2:39:13 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Bunnyassassin:
Bad eyes, make my choice a good scope!

Anyone thinking about the new S & B CQB?

Would like to hear from anyone who has tried one!

x4 I know, but the optics are super fine!



The Hosepipe has one
Link Posted: 1/17/2006 2:44:36 PM EDT

Originally Posted By vito113:
Simmons 1.5 - 5 x 20 Nightview Compact will set you back about £100 if you don't need BDC.

ANdy



And the Stoney Point screw-on turrets turn it into a BDC type very easily.
Link Posted: 1/17/2006 2:52:03 PM EDT
Link Posted: 1/17/2006 2:54:22 PM EDT
Link Posted: 1/18/2006 10:26:17 AM EDT
Same to you as well
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