Posted: 12/12/2011 8:49:08 PM EDT
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How often do you all hear about someone having submachine guns, rifles, and other weapons left over from the various wars of the past century? I'm not really referring to news stories and stuff, but more on the personal level if you know of people who have stuff their families have been passing down, but keep hidden. |
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How often do you all hear about someone having submachine guns, rifles, and other weapons left over from the various wars of the past century? I'm not really referring to news stories and stuff, but more on the personal level if you know of people who have stuff their families have been passing down, but keep hidden. my cousin in Greece told stories of huge weapon and ammo caches bunkered within tunnels in the hills |
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How often do you all hear about someone having submachine guns, rifles, and other weapons left over from the various wars of the past century? I'm not really referring to news stories and stuff, but more on the personal level if you know of people who have stuff their families have been passing down, but keep hidden. my cousin in Greece told stories of huge weapon and ammo caches bunkered within tunnels in the hills Yeah! The Guns of Navarone. Huge guns in the hills... 
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There was a recent topic in GD about the German neo nazis having been caught with some arms - and the pictures showed a few left-over WWII guns, but mostly it showed air rifles, blank-firing guns, and lots of scary-looking knives (knives! Oh no!).
I would imagine there are still some hidden weapons out there; it was such a chaotic mess after the war. Seems like the news these days is reporting that even U.S. soldiers brought back guns & other weapons that typically show up after a Vet passes away; some of these have been surprising! |
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Quite often you hear in the paper about some widow turning in a Sten.
That will probably become less and less in the coming years, I think Germany and Belgium will have a lot more We do have quite alot of unexploded ordinance that farmers/builders will dig up. Couple of days ago they blew one up Link Those things are not cool because of the old fuses. |
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OP, are you familiar with the Bund Deutscher Jugend-Technischer Dienst, Operation Gladio and NATO's Stay-Behind Armies (similar to eastern Europe's Forest Brothers), and the 1980 Oktoberfest bombing associated with Heinz Lembke and the weapons cache unearthed in 1981 near Uelzen in the Lüneburger Heide?
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Quoted: OP, are you familiar with the Bund Deutscher Jugend-Technischer Dienst, Operation Gladio and NATO's Stay-Behind Armies (similar to eastern Europe's Forest Brothers), and the 1980 Oktoberfest bombing associated with Heinz Lembke and the weapons cache unearthed in 1981 near Uelzen in the Lüneburger Heide? No, tell me more about the Bund Deutscher Jugend-Technischer Dienst, Operation Gladio and NATO's Stay-Behind Armies, and the 1980 Oktoberfest bombing associated with Heinz Lembke and the weapons cache unearthed in 1981 near Uelzen in the Lüneburger Heide. |
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How often do you all hear about someone having submachine guns, rifles, and other weapons left over from the various wars of the past century? I'm not really referring to news stories and stuff, but more on the personal level if you know of people who have stuff their families have been passing down, but keep hidden. Stens, thompsons, mg34 mg42 mp40, and more.. I've been offered all of these and more mainly from France.. Old folks getting very old, and who kept them in barns etc after the war.. Now that they get too old, they would like some cash for them, or trade for handguns.. Of course, it being illegal prevented me to acquire such guns. Listen to old folks at gunshow or ranges long enough, and you'll hear about these... The saddest thing is to see when the popo catch them old folks, and pose for the press as if they had made society safer.. 
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How often do you all hear about someone having submachine guns, rifles, and other weapons left over from the various wars of the past century? I'm not really referring to news stories and stuff, but more on the personal level if you know of people who have stuff their families have been passing down, but keep hidden. Stens, Thompsons, mg34 mg42 mp40, and more.. I've been offered all of these and more mainly from France.. Old folks getting very old, and who kept them in barns etc after the war.. Now that they get too old, they would like some cash for them, or trade for handguns.. most likely holdovers from the Maquis (French resistance), wouldn't you think? |
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Mike 2 funny
Tony,  . Just had to pull that. LOLGreat to see you humour returning .
I have range safety officer duty on the 31.12.11 at GHDF range you wanna drop in for a blast and a chinwag? Tony Tony, it never left....
Who made you pull RO duty on the 31st?!  Dunno if we are in town, we might go Vienna for New Years. But if we are I'll make sure I drop in mate!
Shung, I think the Brigade d'Intervention just pulled in your driveway with a couple of black vans... 
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"Operation Gladio", just seen a TV documentary on that subject, and there are two things you need to know about "Operation Gladio".
The first thing is, "Nobody talks about Operation Gladio". The second thing is, "Nobody talks about Operation Gladio". As to me being RO, that was Detlefs idea  . But his wife and him will be keeping me company, so I guess it ain't all bad
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OP, are you familiar with the Bund Deutscher Jugend-Technischer Dienst, Operation Gladio and NATO's Stay-Behind Armies (similar to eastern Europe's Forest Brothers), and the 1980 Oktoberfest bombing associated with Heinz Lembke and the weapons cache unearthed in 1981 near Uelzen in the Lüneburger Heide? No, tell me more about the Bund Deutscher Jugend-Technischer Dienst, Operation Gladio and NATO's Stay-Behind Armies, and the 1980 Oktoberfest bombing associated with Heinz Lembke and the weapons cache unearthed in 1981 near Uelzen in the Lüneburger Heide. we briefly discussed these topics here back in July 2011... |
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OP, are you familiar with the Bund Deutscher Jugend-Technischer Dienst, Operation Gladio and NATO's Stay-Behind Armies (similar to eastern Europe's Forest Brothers), and the 1980 Oktoberfest bombing associated with Heinz Lembke and the weapons cache unearthed in 1981 near Uelzen in the Lüneburger Heide? No, tell me more about the Bund Deutscher Jugend-Technischer Dienst, Operation Gladio and NATO's Stay-Behind Armies, and the 1980 Oktoberfest bombing associated with Heinz Lembke and the weapons cache unearthed in 1981 near Uelzen in the Lüneburger Heide. we briefly discussed these topics here back in July 2011... Its our little Euro secret, if well tell you then we have to......you know the rest
Don't know much about the whole thing except that one of their major arms dumps was located buried in a park 10 minutes walk from my house. In the 1990's organised crime somehow got word of this and dug it up and replaced the weapons with metal lockers (the dump was periodically checked with metal detectors). Pics of some of the Gladio guns found on some criminals : 
This came to light when organised crime here started to blow eachother up by hanging a shopping bag full of semtex on the doorknob of rivals and remote detonating the stuff. Anyway I consider it failed in the sense that they were able to trace the guns as being from the robbed Gladio arms dump, I means to me the system is inherently flawed. Philosophically I don't agree with the system because after Gladio would do a hit the Russians would surly retaliate and round up civvies to shoot and I would be defenceless because guns for self defence are banned . So Gladio can act all James Bons and stuff and all i can do is get rounded up and shot, no thanks. Ultimatly the Swiss have a better plan, heck a Texas gun show is already a better plan (rifle behind every blade of grass).
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How often do you all hear about someone having submachine guns, rifles, and other weapons left over from the various wars of the past century? I'm not really referring to news stories and stuff, but more on the personal level if you know of people who have stuff their families have been passing down, but keep hidden. Stens, Thompsons, mg34 mg42 mp40, and more.. I've been offered all of these and more mainly from France.. Old folks getting very old, and who kept them in barns etc after the war.. Now that they get too old, they would like some cash for them, or trade for handguns.. most likely holdovers from the Maquis (French resistance), wouldn't you think? Sure. this is it. Or guns left by the armies there. |
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Quoted: Shung, give those old Frogs my address over here in the States. Quoted: How often do you all hear about someone having submachine guns, rifles, and other weapons left over from the various wars of the past century? I'm not really referring to news stories and stuff, but more on the personal level if you know of people who have stuff their families have been passing down, but keep hidden. Stens, thompsons, mg34 mg42 mp40, and more.. I've been offered all of these and more mainly from France.. Old folks getting very old, and who kept them in barns etc after the war.. Now that they get too old, they would like some cash for them, or trade for handguns.. Of course, it being illegal prevented me to acquire such guns. Listen to old folks at gunshow or ranges long enough, and you'll hear about these... The saddest thing is to see when the popo catch them old folks, and pose for the press as if they had made society safer.. Some of the packages might even make it through Customs. |